SPY ON PARENTS. THE SAME THING HAPPENED HERE. THIS IS SIMPLY AS WRONG AS IT CAN POSSIBLY BE. >> Bill: SO THAT’S OHIO REPUBLICAN JIM JORDAN FROM THE NEW ALLEGATIONS OF JOHN DURHAM CLAIMING IN A COURT FILING THAT MULTIPLE CLINTON CAMPAIGN STAFFERS HIRED A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY TO INFILTRATE SERVERS
AT TRUMP TOWER AND THEN AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH A LINK BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND RUSSIA. JOHN RATCLIFFE HAS BEEN ON THE STORY FROM THE BEGINNING FIRST IN CONGRESS AND WHEN HE WORKED FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THROUGH THE WHITE HOUSE. GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THE STORY RUNS DEEP. A LOT OF NAMES, PLACES, DATES, ETC. WHAT SHOULD OUR AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT THIS LATEST DEVELOPMENT IS WITH DURHAM? SPELL IT OUT. >> WELL BILL, TO REMIND VIEWERS, IT WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020 THAT THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC FOUND OUT WHEN I DECLASSIFIED JOHN BRENNAN’S
HANDWRITTEN NOTES THERE WAS A HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN PLAN TO CREATE FAKE RUSSIA COLLUSION ALLEGATIONS OR SCANDAL INVOLVING DONALD TRUMP. I MET WITH JOHN DURHAM IN MY CAPACITY AS DNI TO SHARE WITH HIM SOME OF THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN NOW DECLASSIFIED BUT ALSO MANY OTHER INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DOCUMENTS THAT EVIDENCE WHAT
THAT HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN PLAN INVOLVED AND WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH IT. IT STILL REMAINED CLASSIFIED. THIS LATEST FILING AS IT RELATES TO ONE OF HILLARY CLINTON’S LAWYERS MICHAEL SUSSMAN, ALL OF THESE FILINGS ARE DETAILS THE PUBLIC IS NOW FINDING OUT AS JOHN DURHAM IS ALLEGING IT AS PARTS OF WHAT
WAS THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN PLAN TO FALSELY ACCUSE DONALD TRUMP OF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA. >> Bill: HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS. THE WORD INFILTRATE HAS BEEN USED. IS THAT THE ANOTHER WORD FOR HACKING A COMPUTER WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO INFILTRATE A SERVER? >> NO. BASED ON THE ALLEGATIONS, A
TECH EXECUTIVE AND TECH COMPANY USED WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY LAWFUL ACCESS INTO GOVERNMENT SERVERS BUT TO GAIN INFORMATION AND TO USE IT FOR AN UNLAWFUL PURPOSE. SO WHAT JOHN DURHAM’S PLEADING TALKS ABOUT IS THAT HILLARY CLINTON’S LAWYER, MICHAEL SUSSMAN, TOOK THIS INFORMATION FROM THE TECH EXECUTIVE AND PITCHED IT TO THE F.B.I. AS
EVIDENCE OF TRUMP/RUSSIA CONNECTIONS THAT SIMPLY WEREN’T TRUE AND THAT THE LAWYER, MICHAEL SUSSMAN AND THE TECH EXECUTIVE TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE. >> Bill: OKAY. I HAVE 20 QUESTIONS BUT I ONLY HAVE TIME FOR TWO. THERE HAVE BEEN THREE PEOPLE INDICTED OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. WHAT DID YOU TELL DURHAM ABOUT
WHO SHOULD BE INDICTED AND WHICH NAMES DID YOU GIVE HIM? >> I’M NOT GOING TO PREJUDICE HIS CASE. WE TALKED ABOUT JOHN BRENNAN’S NOTES TALKED ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN ADVISORS. OBVIOUSLY THE PLEADINGS TALK ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN LAWYERS. NOW YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CONSULTANTS. YOU KNOW, ANY FOLKS, BILL, I
THINK THIS PLEADING ALLEGES OR ALLUDES TO A CONSPIRACY MEANING TWO OR MORE PEOPLE IN FURTHERANCE OF A CRIME AND ANYONE WHO WAS AWARE THAT THIS CAMPAIGN PLAN WAS GOING TO BE FALSELY PITCHED TO THE F.B.I., C.I.A. OR LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR ANY NUMBER OF CRIMINAL CRIMES, MAIL FRAUD,
WIRE FRAUD, LYING UNDER OATH, CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY, FALSE TESTIMONY TO PROSECUTORS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. IT COULD GO BROADLY AND DEEPLY. I THINK IT DOES BASED ON INTELLIGENCE THAT I HAVE SEEN AND THAT I DISCUSSED WITH JOHN DURHAM. >> Bill: CAN YOU SAY TODAY THAT MORE INDICTMENTS ARE INDEED COMING?
>> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE. I SAY THAT AND I’VE BEEN SAYING THERE NEED TO BE INDICTMENTS BEFORE THERE WERE ANY. THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN INDICTED, THAT DOES RELATE TO INTELLIGENCE THAT I SHARED WITH JOHN DURHAM AND BASED ON MORE INTELLIGENCE THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DECLASSIFIED.
I WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE FRANKLY QUITE A FEW MORE INDICTMENTS. I THINK THIS CONSPIRACY — I THINK THERE WAS A CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY — IS BROAD AND DEEP AND I HOPE THAT OBVIOUSLY JOHN DURHAM IS MOVING CAREFULLY. BUT I WOULD EXPECT AND ANTICIPATE BASED ON THE INTELLIGENCE I’VE SEEN THERE
WILL BE QUITE A FEW MORE INDICTMENTS RELATING TO THIS. >> Bill: OKAY. 30 SECONDS. YOU MENTIONED THE YEAR 2020. WHAT DID JOHN BRENNAN TELL PRESIDENT OBAMA IN THE OVAL OFFICE IN 2016? >> WELL, I CAN TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS PART HAS BEEN DECLASSIFIED. HE BRIEFED PRESIDENT OBAMA AND
VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY TEAM ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC INTELLIGENCE THAT JOHN DURHAM NOW HAS ABOUT A HILLARY CLINTON PLAN TO FALSELY ACCUSE AND VILIFY DONALD TRUMP WITH A SCANDAL, AND THE DISCUSSION AROUND THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS GOOD INTELLIGENCE. AND SO EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
AFTER THAT, BILL, IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT JOHN DURHAM IS INVESTIGATING. BILL BARR, JOHN DURHAM AND I AND LOOKING AT IT THERE WASN’T — THOSE ARE THE ISSUES THAT JOHN DURHAM IS LOOKING AT AND I THINK THERE WILL BE MANY MORE. I WOULD EXPECT THERE TO BE QUITE A FEW MORE INDICTMENTS
BECAUSE OF THAT. THERE WASN’T A PROPER PREDICATE TO BEGIN THAT INVESTIGATION AND JOHN DURHAM HAS SAID THAT PUBLICLY ALREADY. >> Bill: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THIS WILL INDEED CONTINUE.
