ME AND THE PRESS AND DEMOCRATS SAID THEY WEREN’T AND BE IN 2019, THEY THEN ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR SAID SPYING TOOK PLACE AT THAT TIME FBI ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN. EVERYONE SAID NO, NO, NO. NOW WE KNOW 100%, JOHN DURHAM’S FILING, YES, THERE WAS SPYING GOING ON AND IT WAS WORSE THAN
WE THOUGHT. THEY WERE SPYING ON THE SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND IT GOES TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN. SO GOD BLESS JOHN DURHAM AND HIS INVESTIGATION. IT’S TAKEN A LONG TIME. WE’RE GETTING TO WHAT WE SUSPECTED. WHAT WE DIDN’T UNDERSTAND, IT WAS WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT.
>> I THINK EVERYONE AS THEY WATCH THIS WONDERS WHERE WILL THIS GO, WHERE WILL ACCOUNTABILITY LEAD US, WHO WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? I GOT A NOTE EARLIER IN THE SHOW. I WANT TO RUN IT BY YOU. I DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS WITHIN YOUR KNOWLEDGE. WITHIN FEDERAL CRIMES, THERE’S A
FIVE YEAR STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT STUFF FROM 2016, A ’17. ARE WE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT HAS EXPIRED IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AT LEAST WITHIN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM? >> LOOK, I DON’T KNOW. ONLY JOHN DURHAM KNOWS THAT. I KNOW SOME OF THE FILINGS THAT HE’S DONE WERE RUNNING UP CLOSE
TO THE FIVE YEAR STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS AND WE DO KNOW THIS, JOHN DURHAM HAS GONE TO THE START. UNDERSTAND, THE INDICTMENT AGAINST ZUSMAN LYING TO JOHN DURHAM AND HIS TEAM, IT WAS ABOUT THE ORIGINAL LIES WHEN THEY STARTED THE EFFORT TO GO AFTER A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. THAT IS WHAT IS SO FRIGHTENING HERE.
YOU HAD THE GOVERNMENT WORKING WITH THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN TO GO AFTER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT TO SPY ON THAT CAMPAIGN. WE’VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN HISTORY. SO PRESIDENT TRUMP STATE’S YESTERDAY IS ON TARGET, THIS IS UNDENT — UNPRECEDENTED, WHEN YOU COUPLE IT WITH THE CONTEXT
OF A FEW YEARS AGO IT WAS DEMOCRATS USING THE IRS TO TARGET CONSERVATIVES, THEN IT WAS THIS ISSUE WITH THEM GOING AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN AND WE KNOW FOUR MONTHS AGO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SET UP A THREAT TAG LABEL AND THEY’RE PUTTING THE THREAT TAG, THAT LABEL ON MOMS AND DADS SHOWING
UP AT SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS. WHEN YOU DO IT IN CONTEXT, IT’S MORE FRIGHTENING. >> SURE IS. CONGRESSMAN, YOU MENTIONED THE WAY THE MEDIA CHARACTERIZED THIS. FROM THE BEGINNING, THEY DE– NOT JUST DENIED, BUT PURSUED THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE OF THOSE PEDALING THIS TO THE FBI AND THE MEDIA.
I WANT TO REMIND OUR VIEWERS WITH A BIT OF A FLASHBACK. HERE’S HOW THE MEDIA AND DEMOCRATS CHARACTERIZED THE DURHAM PROBE. WATCH THIS. >> THE BIGGEST SCANDAL WAS WHEN THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN. THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN. >> THERE’S NO REAL EVIDENCE OF THAT. >> OF COURSE THERE IS.
IT’S ALL OVER THE PLACE. >> NO. >> LESLIE N SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND GOT CAUGHT. >> DONALD TRUMP AND BILL JAM WM BARR SAID THERE WOULD BE PROOF OF A HUGE CORRUPTION. THEY HAVEN’T PROVED THAT. >> THEY’RE TRYING TO TURN IT INTO SOME KIND OF SCANDAL.
>> WAIT UNTIL THE DURHAM REPORT COMES OUT AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS AND THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CONSPIRACY THEORY. IT IS NEVER GOING TO END. GUESS WHAT? PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BELIEVE THAT BS ARE GOING TO BELIEVE IT. >> CONGRESSMAN, YET AGAIN WE GO TO THE WORD MISINFORMATION.
IT WAS CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND MISINFORMATION UNTIL IT’S PROVEN NOT TO BE. >> YEAH. THE CONSPIRACY THEORY, THE MISINFORMATION CAME FROM ADAM SCHIFF, THE DEMOCRATS AND THE MAINSTREAM PRESS. SCHIFF SAID THERE IS MORE THAN CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WORKED WITH THE RUSSIANS. THAT WAS FALSE. COMPLETELY FALSE. THE MEDIA REPORTED IT.
IT’S PROVEN BE FALSE. THERE IS CERTAINLY NOW MORE THAN CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEMOCRATS AND THE FBI AND THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN SPIED ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN SO, YEAH, THE COUNTRY SEES IT. SEEMS LIKE THEY CALL EVERYTHING THAT’S MISINFORMATION TURNS OUT TO BE TRUE AND THEY’RE PEDDLING A FALSE NARRATIVE ALL THE TIME.
RACHEL: I WAS SURPRISED TO THAT THE INDICTMENTS CAME OUT, THAT THE INVESTIGATION WAS STILL GOING. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WOULD NOT. THAT’S HOW MUCH OF A LOSS — >> SO DID JOHN LEMON. RACHEL: HE THOUGHT THE SAME THING. ALL OF US WONDER, WHO WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
YOU SAW THOSE THREE GUYS. HOW FAR UP DO YOU THINK THIS CAN GO? I MEAN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO REGAIN THEIR TRUST IN GOVERNMENT. THIS IS THIRD WORLD STUFF. THIS IS, AS YOU SAID, IT’S LIKE WATERGATE. THIS IS WEAPONIZING GOVERNMENT AND OUR INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, WORKING WITH BIG TECH.
THIS IS REALLY BIG STUFF. >> YEAH. NO, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT TO VIEW ALL THIS IN CONTEXT. YOU THINK WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE. THE DEMOCRATS THIS YEAR, THEY’VE CLOSED THE CAPITOL, ALLOWED PROXY VOTING, KICKED REPUBLICANS OFF COMMITTEE, WON’T LET REPUBLICANS SERVE ON A SELECT COMMITTEE.
THEY’RE TRYING TO END THE FILIBUSTER, TRYING TO PACK THE T COURT, TRYING TO LET NONCITIZENS VOTE. THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE ALTERED EVIDENCE. WE FOUND OUT THE DEMOCRAT COMMITTEE OF HILLARY CLINTON WAS SPYING ON THE SITTING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. YOU VIEW IT ALL IN CONTEXT, LET’S HOPE PEOPLE ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
WHEN JOHN T RATCLIFFE WAS DIRECTOR, HE MADE SURE CERTAIN DOCUMENTS WERE AVAILABLE TO DURHAM ABOUT THE TOP PEOPLE IN THE INTELLIGENCE DIVISION UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, SO WE’LL SEE WHERE BRENNAN OR McCABE OR COMEY, WE’LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS A. I DON’T KNOW, ONLY JOHN DURHAM KNOWS AND HE IS BEING PERSISTENT
AND METHODICAL ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION. WE’RE SEE WHERE IT SHAKES OUT. >> WE GET THE SENSE IT’S GOING SOMEWHERE, THE WAY THAT DURHAM IS CONDUCTING THIS IN THE QUIET. THIS REVELATION WASN’T ONE HE PUT OUT THERE. IT WAS IN A SMALL FILING OVER A CONFLICT OF — >> IN A FILING, YES.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE THIS COULD BE HEADED SOMEWHERE, THIS INVESTIGATION DOES HAVE A IN-FLOW. RACHEL: ARE DEMOCRATS OFFICER NERVOUSRIGHT NOW? DO YOU BELIEVE THEY ARE NERVOUS AT THIS POINT, THAT THEY’RE WORRIED THAT THEY MIGHT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? >> AGAIN, I DON’T KNOW. WHAT I DO SUSPECT IS HOW DID JIM
BAKER, THE TOP LAWYER AT THE FBI, THE CHIEF COUNSEL AT THE FBI, WHEN ZUSMAN IS HANDING HIM THIS INFORMATION ON THE COORDINATION BETWEEN TRUMP AND THESE FOLKS IN RUSSIA, HOW DID JIM BAKER NOT KNOW, ZUSMAN WAS — HOW DID HE NOT KNOW THAT HE WASN’T REPRESENTING THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN?
I THINK HE HAD TO KNOW THAT I DON’T KNOW FOR SURE. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. SO WE’LL SEE WHERE THIS INVESTIGATION GOES. >> MAYBE HE WANTS DENIABILITY. IT NAMES TECH EXECUTIVE AND TECH COMPANY NUMBER ONE. DO WE EVENTUALLY LEARN WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE?
>> I ASSUME SO. AGAIN, I THINK MR. DURHAM IS GOING TO MOVE THROUGH THIS IN A METHODICAL WAY, AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT IT’S BEEN THREE YEARS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE THE TRUTH. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF STUFF
NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN AND THAT THE GOVERNMENT QUITS WEAPONIZING THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO GO AFTER AMERICAN CITIZENS. RACHEL: THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN. >> REAL QUICK, TOTAL CHANGE OF GEARS. YOU’RE FROM OHIO, WHO DO YOU LIKE TODAY IN THE BIG GAME? >> YOU BET. WHO DO YOU THINK, THE BENGALS, FOR GOODNESS SAKE.
>> YEAH, HE’S GOING TO SAY LA. THAT’S WHAT HE’S GOING TO DO. RACHEL: HE WOULD NOT HAVE WON THE NEXT ELECTION.
