And it is not hyperbole they want to do it as quickly as possible as part of what lenin called accelerating the contradictions this is how marxists start a revolution and for them revolution is violent by nature despite what critical race marxists will tell you this is not a conspiracy theory
It is literally written out in books and articles written by them and today’s guest has read just about every single one of them in the words of dr phil yes dr phil today’s guest has read so much crt that he must read through his ears he comes from academia and he realized
Early on that the so-called radicals self-appointed critics of society are pathologically narrow-minded and they are dangerous we are all starting to feel the effects of all of this my book is about the great reset it goes hand in hand with crt today perhaps for the first time you will understand
How the noose is closing around the neck of freedom all over the world and we must pay attention quickly today’s guest fights back you can find him going toe to toe with anonymous radicals on twitter and he he’s got a few molotov cocktails himself more importantly he fights back using
The secrets of academia against academia he first made his name for himself by submitting ridiculous articles to peer-reviewed publications if you don’t know about the griev grievance studies affair you have to look it up it’s hilarious and illuminating he takes the fight to a whole new level in this new book race marxism
The truth about critical race theory and praxis back for his third appearance on this podcast probably the most important podcast perhaps that we’ve ever done please welcome james lindsay if the last two years have taught us anything it is that you have to do your own homework and you have to take
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World and free citizens as a means of understanding and resisting this terrible ideology at a crucial moment in history where it threatens us all in a way far bigger than most of us realize quoting all existing deep entanglements with critical race theory are almost totally useless they either come from biased
Cheerleaders who present it in an unrealistically positive light or from naive scholars who can’t see the ideological forest for the philosophical trees that compose it this book is the first comprehensive attempt at a remedy to this civilization threatening problem and it has been written perhaps only just in time yeah i don’t think
There’s truer words spoken yeah i realized that this book needed to be written last summer and i sat down and wrote the bulk of the first draft in 10 days i was so convinced that it needs to be said it needs to be said now
Um how close to the edge are we because that some people would say come on it’s not that bad it’s that bad uh we are we’re very close to the edge but i’m i’m actually at a point of being somewhat cautiously optimistic right so if we would have had this conversation a
Couple of months ago it would have been a little bit of a darker how close were we to the edge we’re falling off of it right um but no we’re we’re we’re kind of dancing near the edge of it uh right now but and a lot of people are starting to
Stand up and go wait wait wait wait wait wait wait yeah i don’t know if there’s enough and if they really understand what they’re up against but they’re beginning to at least sense it a lot of people are starting to go wait i think we’re going in the wrong
Direction right and especially with critical race theory particularly i’ve noticed a dramatic shift you know i’ve been speaking publicly about it for a while um and dramatic shift in the past six months where people are very confident and even informed enough to say you know roughly what the thesis of the book is
It’s marxism this is marxism using race it’s in when people understand it’s marxism i want you to do this i want you to do this podcast and talk to a parent like me who honestly he gets so t marxism is gobbledygook it is and it you read and
You’re like how does this make sense to anyone and so when you’re explaining it sometimes people are using that and you get completely lost so talk to me as a parent tell me the difference between marxism and critical race theory or why critical race theory was
As it is now why is why is it being put into our school okay so the only real difference between marxism and critical race theory is that marxism focuses on centers as their word for it economic class as the that which generates inequality that’s how you’re going to understand
Inequality who’s in which economic class critical race theory does it with racial social class instead yeah and this and and marx when he first when he did this it was because of the class he thought the underclass would rise up but america showed that no no the underclass can
Rise with the with the rising ships as well right um and so it kind of fell apart so when did they switch to instead of those classes when did they switch to race the 1960s is the beginning by the end of the 1970s it was kind of a done
Deal uh so in the 1960s kind of the preeminent marxist thinker of the time would have been herbert marcuzza herbert marcus famously wrote repressive tolerance an essay that says that we should tolerate everything from the left but we should tolerate nothing from the right we should censor the right
Pre-sense are the right don’t even let them at the idea in their head boy are we living that right we live in that essay yeah but he also wrote exactly what you just said is that in a country like america the working class ends up stabilized the working class ends up
Building a better life for itself it can work it can get a job you know you put some basic worker protections and monopoly protections in place so that they can’t be too exploitative you don’t get the crony problems and capitalism works and the working class gets stable and he says they become a
Counter-revolutionary force and that’s a big problem and so he said what we need to do is we need to look elsewhere we need a new working class he says this specifically especially in a 1969 essay called essay on liberation he says we need a new working class that
New working class he says we’re going to look where to the ghetto population that’s his words for it he says the energy in the black ghetto population the black nationalists black liberation movements that won’t be easily stabilized that’s where we’re going to find it and so he
Ends up with a student angela davis very famous woman radical from the 70s total communist and she ends up kind of inspiring a generation of marxist black feminism that has gone to take over everything and critical race theory comes out of that so the shift was in the decade
Following that 1964 book or 1969 essay depending on which very influential thing of marcus you want to point at in the decade that followed that through the 1970s you have this rising black feminism that kind of starts taking over everything and i say black feminism and it means this is a
Marxist ideology that’s using race and sex as their their main tools at the same time to overcome capitalism but also racism and also sexism on this new idea that all oppression is united it’s all kind of the same thing you can’t talk about class without looking at race without looking at sex
And they all intersect with one another and so that’s where this really shifted is there was there any anybody good at that time period that was putting this together that was not using this as a way to splinter america or capitalism was there anybody who said no this is
This will be good for all of us in the end this will be do you know what i mean it was so niche at the time i don’t think so i mean herbert marcus certainly wanted to splinter america he said that these these societies that deliver the goods
He says what they do ultimately is they prevent people from realizing that we could have a utopia and so you really got to splinter all of that thing so i don’t think so early on i mean it’s certainly the you know civil rights movement there are sure people doing
Things yeah yeah of course but as far as what was the kind of genesis of this new identity-based marxism or identity politics based marxism no i don’t think so i think the goal is always to whether it’s splintering or not but but to gain power to gain power for
Themselves do people i mean leaders do they really think that the utopia is gonna happen this time i know a lot of useful idiots do but over and over and over again it leads to massive death and destruction and starvation and you name it um
Do they actually believe or do or or do they know they’re only positioning themselves for power you know i look at people like bill gates and klaus schwab at the world economic forum and i think that they’re probably true believers in very significant ways especially klaus i think they believe that what’s
Hindered if you read the marxism through the 60s you get this sense that what hindered the soviet union was that it lacked the technology necessary to meet the production levels necessary to have a thriving society capitalist society found production but they have all this exploitation that was the big question
That they were wrestling with and so now with the advent of ai and with you know all of these new machines and robots and self-driving vehicles they want to unleash i think they actually think we can pull it off now that you know the ai can predict distribution to get around
Um the information problem that von mises pointed out and said this is why communism and socialism don’t work planned economies don’t work because there’s information being exchanged between the people engaging in a market and without that information you don’t know what goods and services are needed
So you have huge excesses of say steel or huge deficiencies of say bread and it doesn’t get worked out but with super advanced ai well they can predict what you want and give you an advertisement for it before you even know you wanted it so they i think
That there are people these kind of highly technologist types who genuinely believe that they’re going to pull it off this time that we now have the necessary technology to make it work not understanding that human beings are still human beings at the bottom unless the full marxist program is
Brought to bear which is to remake humans to need different things well they are doing that that’s the goal are doing that transhumanism transhumanism is the end of that but uh it’s frightening okay so when did critical because people always like you’re talking about critical race theory that’s just something that was developed
In harvard for law and it’s not tell me tell me the truth and how to argue what do we say when we’re talking to somebody who’s saying that to us um i mean they say in their own words that that’s not the truth i mean you pick up
For example there’s a book called critical race theory an introduction okay so this book was written on the uh in 2001 on the high school level has classroom exercises in it okay and in the second paragraph of the book they explained this critical race theory started in law and rapidly spread beyond that
Discipline into education into politics into voting strategies and people didn’t know stacey abrams gets mentioned right there in the book so it very rapidly by the by the 90s at least had completely metastasized into virtually every field it can colonize it had made its way into virtually
Everything so yes it’s true that the earliest books that we would consider in the critical race theory pantheon were from harvard law derek bell’s race racism and american law in 1970 uh was the is really considered the first book in the subject and he’s trying to get
He’s trying to critique you know um desegregation of schools brown versus board of education he’s trying to make more room for not just keeping affirmative action but to increase affirmative action but at that point it was very legal and very material and it hadn’t blown out into this kind of huge cultural
Phenomenon by the 80s it was already going in that direction kimberly crenshaw completely his derek bell’s student kimberly crenshaw completely supplanted him when you read his writing now most of it even seems quaint and very formal and just not indicative of what you see in any of the rest of the
Literature but even that’s not enough because we can go to a woman named patricia bydol you’ve heard the racism is prejudice plus power definition this comes from a woman named patricia bidel who also published her book about white racism in 1970 and it is literally the same thing that robin d’angelo
Published as white fragility in 2018 wow she says that whiteness is a form of schizophrenia and should be treated psychologically she says you’re either racist or anti-racist she says you’re either with us or you’re against us so there was an entire wing of what was called whiteness studies at the time
That’s ultimately part of critical race theory that was developing in parallel from the same years as this very formal legal theory it just happened that it exploded out of the legal theory the legal architecture because that was the movement that the critical race theorists were able to conquer most effectively first they they
Took over they called the critical legal studies movement which was marxist law studies coming out of the 60s and 70s they called it racist in the 80s at their big conference they had in 85 or 6. called it racist huge fight whole thing collapses everybody’s calling each
Other racist the same kind of fights people see now in their workplaces after diversity training and in 1989 kimberly crenshaw names this new idea critical race theory at a meeting outside of the university of wisconsin at madison in a convent where they said that a bunch of marxists gathered under
This austere room with crucifixes here and there what an odd setting for a bunch of marxists as they reminisce about it and so um it’s just incorrect it was it was thoroughly in education by the 90s it was thoroughly into politics by the 90s how did we miss it this long
It’s so weird and i i don’t mean it’s weird that we missed it i mean the subject itself is weird you read it and it’s like this doesn’t make sense nobody could possibly take this seriously the only places it was being taken seriously was in like public administration as it turns out
Which is not a great place for people to allow academic theories to run amok or in eventually in education because the marxists took over education quite a long time ago uh and had wormed their way in and they do this very secretly very insidiously using words like anti-racists that sound good and
Normal right very tricky uses of language very kind of hidden why is anti-racist so bad because it has nothing to do with uh racism whatsoever at all the definition of anti-racist is somebody who agrees with the critical race theory that’s what it actually is it’s somebody who is a formally trained expert
According to the critical race theory definition of formally trained an expert in understanding the structural reality of so-called racism instead of racism as it really exists which is you know whether individual or institutional prejudice against people based on their skin color it’s all hidden in these weird linguistic
Manipulations so let me just ask you a few questions just as i’m a i’m a teacher you know i mean i’m sorry i’m a parent and i’m asking questions and i don’t know i don’t know what the answer is um you just said uh anti-racist they would respond
Well what’s wrong with being anti-race it’s just it’s just you’re you’re either a racist or you’re an anti-racist and this is just working towards getting rid of racism that’s i mean sounds great right but you have to understand what they mean by race you have to understand what they
Mean by racism i could show you on the brandeis university website they have a social justice glossary they have a definition of race it says i can paraphrase it pretty closely from memory i don’t have it perfectly memorized but it’s a surprisingly seductive they say designation uh created by white people originally from
Europe that holds up white people the white race as the archetype of humanity for the purpose of oppression and maintaining their own privilege and so they’ve got a politicized definition so when they’re talking about race they’re talking about something very different uh when they say this is
Just about ending racism they think of racism not in terms of somebody having you know hateful or ignorant views based on skin color or ethnicity they’re thinking instead about a structure that they believe that white people organize society for themselves to their own benefit in the same way that the marxists
Believe that capitalists organize society unjustly for their own benefit to be able to dominate everybody else and they created this system that’s self-perpetuating and in fact self itself hides they’re hiding it disguises itself so that people can’t see it unless they’re specially trained to do so so when you say that you’re anti-racist
What that actually means is that you are actually disposed against the entire existing system everything from all men are created equal is to to you know you have certain rights endowed by your creator that are inalienable is on the chopping block in fact critical race during introduction
On page 23 i happen to remember that says it says specifically critical race theorists are highly suspicious of another liberal mainstay namely rights they are suspicious of rights in general they don’t believe people are created equally they believe that the the kind of is a fundamental blank slate
Picture of people we are but the society it’s not is not equal so society is automatically structurally conditioning everybody to be privileged or oppressed and whatever relationship you have to this structure and so what they’re talking about is something completely different so you ask how did we miss it
Because i just had to spend four minutes explaining to to you what what they mean by a word you think you already know that you’ll never ask about of course i want to be anti-racist next nobody’s going to say what do you mean by that playing devil’s advocate yeah but
That’s not what i mean by that and that’s not what they’re we’re talking about that’s you know critical race theory fine but that’s not what i mean by that what’s the danger of me being anti-racist well the only danger because it depends on what you mean by
It right so the only danger is that when you use that word and you think you mean one thing by it the activists who are writing the policy who have wormed their way into positions of power means something very different yeah but i’m just recognizing my privilege what’s
Wrong you don’t think you have privilege because you’re you were white you don’t think that gave you special privilege well yeah so what’s privileged then you have to again it’s these very subtle terms what is it what is privilege privilege is your golden ticket to owning bourgeois racial
Property or bourgeois property of any other kind use the marxist words for it whiteness as property is a paper from 1993 they consider whiteness as a form of property that white people and the people that they designate are the only people who have access to it it’s like a
Form of private property what is it is whiteness as properties by cheryl harris what does that mean whiteness as proper cultural property that in particular includes she goes to his whole 60-something page legal argument about what property rights are and says the whiteness functions that way giving yourself access to the you know
Say before um before the 13th amendment or the 14th amendment um no 13th amendment you know white people had certain access to society right and 15th amendment gave them the right they gave everybody the right to vote so having the whiteness card gave you the ability to vote before the 15th amendment before
It to not be a slave before the 13th amendment et cetera later you know whites only train cars white’s only classrooms white’s only you know facilities whatever it happens to be being white gave you special access and then after the civil rights movement they believe that well there are people
Who don’t have to think about their race all the time their society is not reminding them of race all the time they get to just be default people and then there are all of the racial minorities who have race put on them all the time
You can’t just be a man you have to be a black man you can’t just be a man you have to be a latino man or whatever else the race is being imposed upon them and so what they think is that whiteness is like this golden ticket you’re not going to be discriminated
Against you’re going to get to go out with the guys you’re going to get the you know the promotions at work all of the best stuff and culture is reserved for you not for other people and whiteness operates like a form of property in that you own it and you can exclude other
People from it that’s the key provision that harris brings up is the fundamental right to exclude as being a property right if i own uh you know this book and you’re like i’m gonna have to give me your book you know i say well give me my
Book back because it’s my book i can exclude you from owning the book because it’s my property well it’s the same thing here i can exclude you from the good parts of society and they point to where the irish and the germans were made to be then in critical race during
Introduction they say well they irish and germans weren’t white until the democratic party came along said you can be white if you vote democrat that’s in their book uh it’s kind of funny yeah i don’t recall that portion of history but they said that the whiteness was expanded to certain people
Beca but not others because of the politics that they were going to okay embrace so here’s where it gets confusing to me let’s say i buy into that yeah in this theory two wrongs make a right because they’re doing to solve to be an anti-racist you have to be racist
Right you have to be race conscious and you have to intentionally discriminate their justification for this you are correct but they wouldn’t see it as two wrongs making a right what they would see it as is you could imagine societies like this table they think the table’s tilted
White people get all the advantage they’re uphill and everybody else you know all the bad stuff runs down so the table’s actually tilted so what they think they’re doing is putting putting levelers under the other side to bring it up to where it’s flat but in fact that’s
Not what is happening but they actually believe and that’s their phrase for it that they’re leveling an unlevel playing field but there are ways to level affirmative action was one way i disagree at least today may not have in the 60s early 70s but um that was that was leveling the playing
Field and say let’s correct this we’ve been in a corrective mode for a long time and in fact i i mean at least i felt like we were getting better as a nation and this generation now that only sees race they didn’t see race you know my generation we saw things as race
Later that was all just disappearing and now they’ve come in and reinforced everything is is only about race yeah i think that you are correct i totally agree with everything you said and i will point out that this legalistic side of critical race theory that we were talking about previously
Actually if you read their writing they’re very clear they wanted to not just keep affirmative action going it was turning out they tried it they were saying it was less necessary people were walking it back through the 70s they wanted not only to keep it going but
They wanted to increase it they wanted it on an increasing trajectory there are arguments about well we can do affirmative action and should run out after say 20 25 years or whatever and they said well that’s white supremacy and what it was is they found a tool
That allowed them to keep banging for an entitlement and they just kept banging at it and banging at it and banging at it meanwhile the marxists are coming up with all this cultural theory cultural marxist theory using identity politics that’s kind of fusing into all of that
And that’s where the the real marxism side comes from and it’s no longer about leveling the playing field except in their own kind of fever dreams about how society works and this is again this is because they’re marxist they believe that systems are created and unless there’s a revolution the
System is permanent there must be a revolution we haven’t had a revolution so the system that is picking up all the time is that why they’re yes calling people names and just kicking them down because they want a revolution they did a hot revolution they will take a cultural revolution i
Mean mark said that that violence is the midwife of revolution but if they don’t have to fire a shot and they could do it in a velvet style i’m sure they would so they want a complete handing over of the reins of power to people who think like them
To establish a dictatorship of the anti-racists that will enforce equity until it becomes spontaneous at which point we will have justice all right so before i move on from this kind of because i i need to take a next step with this let’s just park here for a second with
Martin luther king uh-huh everything martin luther king said and did is now nonsense if you’re in the critical race siri yeah they claim to love him but well they like his radical stuff that he said where he blamed the white liberals for dragging their feet they like the extortion racket
When his most frustrated moments from birmingham jail or whatever they like that stuff they don’t like i have a dream they do not like uh the idea that we’re gonna judge by contents of character rather than color of skin and they would say that he is i
Don’t know that they would be so bold as to come out say martin luther king was naive but the theory certainly would believe that martin luther king was naive because he didn’t understand that the imposition of race by the white supremacy ideology upholding the whiteness superstructure of society what that actually does is
They they have a term for this they call it structural determinism the structure of society which they think is a fundamental organizing principle of society is that racism that benefits white people and so that exists that’s the system and we could get very marxist theory with it if
You want to go deep if it’s up to you but that conditions the limits of who you are who your character what your character can be and so if you’re white you’re brought up in a condition of privilege and so your character is stained by the impacts of living in
Racial privilege if you are not white then you are put to the constantly reminded of your race and your character is actually shaped by this racism that you don’t want that’s being imposed upon you by a racist structure of society this is like i said called structural determinism you are
Morally determined by the structural reality as they would call it of the world which is conditioned by the fact that there’s a racial upper class and a racial lower class and dialectical opposition i told you we can go deep and therefore you can’t judge somebody by the contents
Of their character without taking into account the fact that society is shaping their character for them through the structural determinism because this is how marxists think about the world everything’s a structure and the structure is permanent until revolution and so clarence thomas is bad why because because he doesn’t
So ayanna presley famously said a year or so ago that we don’t want any more black faces who don’t want to be black voices we don’t want any more brown faces who don’t want to be brown voices so structural determinism shapes your character and if you have your shaped
Character they this is a term in their own books it says it gives rise to a unique voice of color the critical race theorists have figured out what the authentic expression of what it means to be every single race in this structural racist situation that they think characterizes
The world and if you aren’t spouting critical race theory then you are somehow selling out you either have false consciousness of some kind you have internalized your racism you’ve accepted that this is just how it is you’re trying to curry white favor you act white they accused obama of acting
White to get the presidency you have to act white so that the white supremacist society will accept you it’s always some cynical self-serving or willfully ignorant blind uh reason why if you aren’t a blackface being a black voice in other words if you’re not a critical racer speaking
Authentically according to what they say your voice should be then you are actually reproducing the system just like you have you know people who are within the working class the petite bourgeoisie the kulaks who were reproducing the bourgeois ideology even though they were technically farmers or technically machinists or whatever else the
It’s the exact same mentality so clarence thomas or larry elder who’s now the black face of white supremacy they’re not saying critical race theory things therefore they are not authentically representing their experience in the structural reality of white supremacy therefore they are actually upholding white supremacy keeping the system in
Place and then that that makes them the enemy this is just evil it’s i can’t think of something more evil really except the transhumanist stuff yeah and that will hopefully get to a little bit of that um the this is i mean how you know everybody likes a happy warrior
Yeah how does this continue on um person after person year after year when it is all about vengeance and and hatred and how does that happen well two main features one is that it uses the language in a manipulative way where you don’t realize that you’re using specialist language because you’re using
Words that you know like diversity or whatever you know that word like you’re you’re going to be in a meeting and they say well i think we should put a line in there that says you know let’s honor diversity everybody says okay you know why what they don’t know what diversity means diversity
Means that you have a bunch of people who look different who have their authentic voices of color and so that they’re actually commissars and so it sneaks a commissar is somebody who is there to apply the ideology to make sure that the institution is made increasingly compliant or the individuals connected
To an institution are made increasingly compliant with the ideology uh in this case race marxism uh so one way is that linguistic manipulation the other is that these are very subtle emotional i hate to use a big word but epistemological knowledge based and even psychological manipulations they
The the ability to accuse somebody of being racist right immediately puts them on a back foot if that scene is credible by other people so you accuse somebody being racist maybe they doubt themselves maybe other people doubt them as somebody credible they say you know well he’s just
Motivated by this terrible moral failure so your moral authority gets diminished shelby steele was very good in white guilt talking about how that has worked and maybe you get past that maybe people are no i can speak for glenn he’s a good guy and they say well he doesn’t even
Understand how racism works he doesn’t even understand that it’s a system that transcends what individuals do he doesn’t even understand it so now you’re too dumb they’re the sophisticated smart professor types who are smarter than everybody else and so now you lack epistemic authority other people will
Think well glenn’s got his heart in the right place he’s just simple right or they tell you we’re not teaching critical race theory in the schools it’s just teaching honest history you’re crazy if you think we’re going to teach a law school theory in schools and they
Try to make people feel or appear insane like conspiracy theorists or something like that and so they drain people of the authority needed in especially institutional settings where people have to be polite and professional and interact with one another how much did solinsky play into this because it’s a lot of this stuff
That we’re seeing which is really crt a lot of a lot of this the isolation the shutting down the bullying all of that stuff is solinski yes in particular he was very influential in the way that the media dog piles over these issues um they have a little bit more abstruse
Approach to radical activism but rather a lot you know the idea for example was at 13. rule number 13 if i remember correctly is the one where you’re supposed to freeze the target and isolate them and what is the individual’s fold faster than institutions and so what do they do
With the diversity training they put people kind of on a hot seat right they make people go around the room and they confess everybody has to confess the racism that they they felt like in front of people didn’t china do this in their cultural revolution yeah actually you know you bring up a
Linsky i would much prefer to bring up mao this is a complete reproduction in a slightly different cultural context and with more americanized tools of the chinese cultural revolution we all we all know how that ended and we know that it ended in a lot of bloodshed
Let me actually tell you how profound that is so mao separated the people into ten classes right five of them are categorized as black and those were bad they were people like uh landlords rich farmers um counter revolutionaries just bad elements i think or bad influences so
That’s us i guess and then the red categories were things like you know peasants and uh laborers and revolutionaries uh communists you know things like this and he creates these 10 categories of people and so if you’re a kid coming to school and your dad owns uh you know
Some property oh you’re the son of a landlord black identity but if you become a revolutionary you can become a red identity what do we do now straight white male black black black identity bad privilege you have these privileged identities but imagine if you were bisexual or imagine if you transitioned
Now you have a white a red identity imagine if you became an ally you must become an ally allyship is key red identity it is a perfect reproduction of mao’s cultural revolution they bully people based on identity categories they’re straight white male etc fit you know they’ve got the whole
Pantheon of identity categories mentally healthy and then they tell you you have different pathways out of that bullying we’re going to bully you we’re going to tell you how you’re privileged how you’re bad you need to check your privilege but over here you have all kinds of things that you can adopt you
Can become an ally you can show up to all the meetings you can become an activist you can adopt a trans identity and you just see this incredible pressure into the revolutionary identities it’s not enough for you to be trans though you have to be politically trans
It’s not enough for you to have black skin you have to be politically black for it to count you have to be a black voice and it is a perfect reproduction a perfect reproduction of mao zedong’s cultural revolution program that ended in a lot of bloodshed nobody knows how many but maybe 100
Million or more how does this one not end in that if it keeps going um one of a few ways are the only ways out one of which is that the scary oligarchs swoop in and basically shut it down once they figure out that enough uh chaos is happening that they can take
Over and do you think that the critical race theorists who are wholly disruptive are gonna get their way no they’re gonna get put in their pod with a low social credit score until they play along in a unity program that they on you know unroll connected their social credit
System eventually that’s one way with no bloodshed uh another one is um that it gets pushed back but if it continues people will die and people are dying this is already happening in medicine they’re already prioritizing medical care based on race using critical race theory is the logic our medical journals the
New england journal of medicine is probably the worst the lansa is is pretty well contaminated boston medical journal is not as bad but these major medical journals are now i mean you remember the fake papers that yeah i wrote a number of years ago i read the things that are in medical
Journals now and i think we couldn’t have written that like that’s so preposterous but these are medical journals and people not just will but are dying people are being denied transplants the vaccine is not race obviously but it’s the same you’re g you get a bad identity
Versus a good identity it’s the exact same cultural revolution logic people i think honestly in the united states and canada at least alone i i would predict that millions of people if we stop the logic of this now millions of people will unnecessarily die because of screwed up medical care
Or failed medical care because of the lysenko-ism that has taken over medicine through things like critical race theory and so on the lysenko-ism by senko trophem lysenko was the biologist that that the soviets had and he believed in a crackpot theory of how plants grow he
Thought that if you put a whole bunch of plants close together that cooperate better they’d share resources and in fact you know crappy things like corn would turn into good things like rye uh through the you know the soviet cooperation and millions upon millions starved and if scientists tried to challenge him and
Said this isn’t how biology works this isn’t how agriculture works they killed those people or threw them in a siberian gulag or something like this and so i think that you know how do does this not end in in massive bloodshed well i don’t know that they’re going to pick up the gun
I don’t know it’s not really their style but millions will die well just with what they’re doing and we can talk about this later that with a great reset millions will die millions millions will die many millions yeah probably have actually already all right so let me
Let me go back to to critical race and race um race marxism seems to be using a few things i i’m not sure which one is using the other i thought for a long time it was marxism that was running this and all these crazy marxists i think they’re useful idiots i think
The the governments and the powers that be mainly the corporations which i’ve always trusted yeah you know i’ve always hated it i work for the corporation aka the government those dystopian movies i’ve never believed that yeah there’s no doubt about it now i know so are how is this
I mean they’re using i guess the marxism to destroy capitalism but then at some point everybody’s going to realize oh my gosh they’ve made themselves the lord and the lady of the manor and we’re the serfs and so is that guy from antifa if he’s still around
So is the marxist professor they’re all in the digital gulag together uh so yes in fact i now think there’s a circle of useful idiots in fact i don’t think there’s a lot of difference i did i thought i hit the point where i believed i thought this was the marxists marxists
Have figured out how to use race to destabilize society and then i look at the world economic forum and to look at the corporations and they’re all you know coca-cola is telling us that we have to be less white straight out of robin d’angelo and i think but that’s
Fascism you know public private partnership that’s fascism by definition so you’ve got the governments and the ngos and the corporations doing working together so that each can do what the others can’t to exert control and now i’m going to maybe blow your mind because i understand this as a religion
And if it’s a religion they obviously have high level theological views including about eschatology about the end of the world about how they’re going to achieve their utopia ultimately by the way the revolution is rapture if you need a parallel um and there’s a tribute a tribulation and
Then eventually you get to heaven but the kingdom i should say and so anyways i now think that what happened is that the marxists figured out that they had to incorporate dialectically everything dialectical materialism the dialectic is their program of taking opposites and incorporating them and pretending that
They have been brought into one higher level concept they figured out that they had to incorporate fascism to make communism work and so how did they do this well mao did his thing the ccp runs china into a disaster a couple of leaders later you have deng xiaoping working with
Kissinger and so on and they open up the markets of china but it’s all at the pleasure of the party it’s all state capitalism which is by definition fascism so what do you have there you have a communism with fascism inside of it communal fascism so what is the dialectical opposite of
Communal fascism it’s a fascism with communism inside of it fascio communism so you have east asia we just don’t have oceania to always be at war with east asia yet so if you make china into this behemoth a communism with fascism running inside of it so that it solves the production problem of
Soviet disaster of communism because it has now an open market that’s running state capitalism but still very wealth generating market and then you can create the opposite of that in the west if you can create a fascist oligarchy that decides to sure that the people in the top are going to
Be the lords and ladies of the new aristocracy and we are all going to be the serfs mind for our data and our pod while we enjoy our meal worms and crickets but it’ll be equitable so if you take that fascist structure and stick a communism
Inside of it and then those are the two world powers not exactly enemies but frenemies a communism with fascism inside next to a fascism with communism inside and you let those things run next to each other the natural process of the dialectic will eventually fuse all of it and what
You’ll end up with is the kingdom you’ll end up with communism that works this time and i think that that’s the program and so they are definitely using the race marxist because the marxists are extraordinarily destabilizing but the people who are funding this the people who are dumping millions upon millions
Of dollars billions of dollars into critical race theory to drag it out of the university where it should have just kind of languished because it’s stupid it got funded out of the university that’s how it didn’t spontaneously get out of the university bags and bags and bags of cash got dumped into fueling
These movements especially around the occupy wall street time good to protect the banks and so the fascist with the communists inside was born and that’s the objective and they because this is their magic it’s their faith they believe that if you put those two opposites next to each other and they
Are the only two opposites that eventually the dialectical process will average it all out but raise it up to a higher level the marxist word for that is sublate the german word is alphabeen which is the word that that hegel and mark’s use over and over alf haven
You’re going to raise up to a higher level and we’re going to end up with this perfectly kind of world hegemonic one government that is fascistic in ways communist in other ways but everybody’s going to be equitable except there’s going to be the top tier of
Course because only the the what do you call them now stakeholders the word changes every few years yeah you know the only the enlightened are going to be the ones who are going to administer it all and make sure that it stays on on the tracks the creative class i think is
Another term for these people of course marx thought that you come to see yourself as a creator through the process of socializing yourself uh into marxism and so the creative class and so this is what i actually think is going on so it’s almost like a circle of
Both fascists and communists using each other and in the end one of them has to win well i mean they’re the same they’re the same thing the goal actually will be that there is no longer any need for corporate ownership there’s no longer any need for government it’s going to be a stateless
Classless society it’s perfectly equitable except of course the stakeholders who are going to make sure that it all stays running smoothly and so it’s not that either one will win they think that they’re going to average out wow all right so let’s switch to the great
Reset that’s how we get there yeah it’s a great reset yeah talk about klaus schwab a bit oh man i was hoping i didn’t have to talk he’s awful um he’s straight out of central casting as you can tell oh my god i mean you put him in a brown shirt and
You you got him yeah he looks like a bond villain he talks like a bond villain he acts like a bond villain but since the 70s he’s had this vision he claims 71 or something is when he started what became the world economic forum he said this vision of a new
Form of capitalism a sustainable form of capitalism uh a circular economy that you know if you think about that for a minute you realize that’s probably not going to work out and we’re going to now have all these partnerships between government entities and corporate entities so everybody’s now working hand
In hand instead of competing with one another which is fascism which is fascism and then doesn’t seem like anyone on the left knows what fascism is well fascism according to the communist dictionary is not being a communist that’s literally what they think of fascism every there
If we go to the neo-marxists not to get too weird but in the 60s this is the neo-marxists are where schwab got a lot of his ideas and so if we look at say marcusa in the 60s what you have with marxism kind of before that is
This belief that you know history is grinding toward the kingdom toward the utopia toward communism it’s going to unfold the dialectical materialism is going to get us there we just don’t know how or how fast so there’s a heaven in the marxist religion but there’s no hell marcus comes along and says in
Repressive tolerance the whole of the post-fascist era is an era of clear and present danger capitalism is still going to devolve but it can go not it doesn’t just go to the utopia to communism it has two possible trajectories it could either go to communism or it could go to fascism so therefore
Everything that’s not moving it toward communism is moving it toward fascism if you read the dialectic of enlightenment horkheimer and adorno from 47 same theme the liberal system itself tends toward fascism but there’s a there’s an off-ramp into communism and so now there’s a heaven and a hell
In their theology and so uh when when you look at it in that regard you see that they think that everything that the court that goes with their goals is good and everything that doesn’t is fascism so even literal fascism is not fascism but truckers showing up in ottawa to say
Give us our freedom back is fascism so they their logic so communists share your uh vocabulary but they don’t share your dictionary their words all contain agendas their words all mean something different fascism even racism what it just means is that you aren’t going along with their
Program that’s right in pr and practice all it means and all the rest is because they they call us fascists for saying we should have freedom of speech you you know joe rogan should not be taken off the air let it be heard well that’s what
Marcus said he said that if we would have stopped if we would have withdrawn democratic tolerance from hitler we would have avoided auschwitz in a world war that’s an exact quote from oppressive tolerance from 65. he then goes on and says because we live in a permanent state of clear and present
Danger for fascism the whole of the post-fascist era he says then we must he says withdraw tolerance from movements from the right not just he says at the level of action indeed but also at the level of the word he says that the idea can’t even be allowed to enter
The mind of the right-wing person he says now to be sure this is censorship even pre-censorship so they want to take away your cognitive liberty you can think whatever you want as long as you think what they say is okay you can say whatever you want if you can only think
The approved things so we’re going to prevent the dangerous idea from ever even entering the mind the dangerous idea being anything not their program because everything else goes to fascism like the nazis that’s what they think and so he says but it’s justified because we live in this clear and
Present danger situation everything that they will brand is right wing must be censored pre-censored you should it’s not even that you shouldn’t be allowed to say it you shouldn’t be allowed to hear it and if they can prevent it you shouldn’t be allowed to think it and this is
Exactly their literature so i read uh from critic i’m sorry from the wef one of their scholars said by 2030 everything i say everything i hear everything i see everything i think and even my dreams are monitored at all times that’s the idea that’s the idea and it’s all going to be
Subject to their esg based social credit system that is going to as herbert marcuzza just i’m telling you it’s marcus’s logic he writes this essay on liberation in 69 the first chapter it’s in four chapters the first chapter is a biological foundation for socialism and how are we
Supposed to get this how are you supposed to get a biological foundation for socialism he says we have to bring the new morality and introject it into people until they don’t know how to live without it and so you condition everything that they can possibly consume they’re everything they
Read everything that they see it’s every advertisement they get it’s all determined by these algorithms it’s constantly trying to condition you in a particular way even your dreams if they have like the things and whatever the devices they want to hook up the thing they want to implant in your head with a
Neural link you know you hook your brain straight to the internet and constantly constantly the objective becomes to interject the new world morality through social credit that you aren’t able to participate in society unless you are going along with their program that’s why i used the phrase digital gulag
Earlier we’re not going to gulags unless we’re really screw-ups we’re going to be in digital gulags we’re going to be under house arrest and forced to use our phone all the time if there’s still phones or hook to the neural link or metaverse or whatever it is that they require
Constantly to what was the gulag the gulag wasn’t a concentration camp it was a re-education camp the goal to be constantly to re-educate to introject the new morality until people don’t know how to live without it and then you’ll have a new man who’s biologically suited
For socialism and esg is the name of the social credit system that they cooked up for corporations so they can do it in a multi-step program to get it from corporations eventually to individuals what’s more dangerous crt or the great reset or the hand in hand
Well i mean the s social social justice whichever one you want to have it is fueled for the present by crt so critical race theory is the logic at least for the racial component of social dynamics and social uh politics the critical race theory is the thing that’s informing how they’re going to
Determine who’s behaving correctly and not correctly so without critical race theory they would have to have a completely different social program with regard to race they’ve chosen critical race theory because it’s fundamentally so arbitrary and it’s fundamentally seems like it’s oriented toward justice and very subtle and fools
People but it’s ultimately uh without that they’re going to need a completely different social program for the s score to replace that at least with regard to race but you have queer theory with regard to sex sexuality and gender you have fat studies and disability studies
And da da da da all of them uh with regard to all these social politics so these identity marxist politics are the program that they’ve adopted for what good social behavior looks like now on the other side of them implementing a social credit system i think critical race theory is too stupid
And too poisonous and too divisive and too destabilizing i don’t think they’re going to continue to use it they will continue to use the justification of equity though and that’s ultimately what leads them to use critical race theory so they’re hand in glove in that sense geez
But it’s all i mean by the way the word justice we said social justice the word justice is the updated word for communism it is the updated word for communism climate justice means climate communism equity is the updated word for socialism i mean it’s totally literally equity is
A managed state of affairs in which equal outcomes are produced justice is what happens when that becomes spontaneous this is exactly marx’s model of installing a dictatorship of the proletariat that ensures equal outcomes socialism until it becomes spontaneous no see the problem with marxism is it goes against all of human nature yeah
It’s a complete inversion of human nature it’s a catastrophe so you’re not optimistic that this works at all oh it doesn’t work at all yeah it will not work if implemented it will not work and how long do you think i mean first of all do we beat this
Before it happens we should it would be far easier because the power of a social credit system is immense it’s not impossible i think to throw one off until you start getting the you know head implants at which point are your thoughts even your own you know how do you know uh
It’s not impossible to throw it off but it’s way easier before they have that tool of social control than it is after they have that tool of social control so how do you stop it well right now there’s not much of an individual social credit system which means ultimately the individuals who run
Corporations can still make decisions and that i bring up corporations specifically because corporations are where the esg is actually applied if we have a corporate social credit system the way that it works is it gains you access to asset management investment money blah blah blah that’s not set in stone there are other
Ways that that can be done but it takes people with courage to stand up and say this is not the road that we need to be going down this is not actually best best practices and we don’t need to be governed by technocratic stakeholders who are going to decide what the correct
Corporate policy is for us you know from davos or wherever and so throwing it off there is is a starting place now are we going to find people with courage probably not they probably signed things make their courage hard to find but that’s where people who have access say you know
Perhaps senators or something like this start asking the kinds of questions that need to be asked what did you know about this and when did you know it did you go into a huge mortgage with people knowing that financial instruments and ownership are going to be destroyed in five years i think they
Do i mean because it’s fraud and what was it edward dowd he worked for blackrock right he’s recently did did a podcast i think with steve bannon and so he’s coming out and just saying a lot of these kinds of things correct and he’s of course saying that this is a
Terrible thing to do we don’t want to go this way and ultimately he said also though that fraud or corruption is the legal leveler all of the stuff that has legal authority behind it loses it if it’s shown to have been done in fraud and so getting that exposure can break everything
What did these bank lend what did the lenders know car manufacturers did they know that we’re going to go to self-driving autonomous electric vehicles but they sold you a car on a five-year lease anyway did they know that if they did they entered into a fraudulent contract
With you they you were not given the information that you should have been given of course we’re going to see all kinds of fraud is going to bust out around these pharmaceutical companies but the big ones right now are going to be of course the major industries and the finance sector
Overwhelmingly and perhaps i don’t know what levels of fraud and collusion you have in big tech but they’re colluding straight with the government you know i have a theory on this that you know the reason why we’re talking about basic minimum income is not about communism or marxism it’s because tech knows what’s
Coming the the the industrial fourth industrial revolution is is happening right now and 2030 it will be turned inside out people won’t know what to do how do i retrain 40 of the jobs are going to be gone we’ll have a loss of meaning everything else and when that kind of stuff happens
There’s um people look for somebody to blame and it will be tech that they blame because they’ll see tech taking their jobs yes right now the politicians and the banks know we have screwed this up so badly that they’re going to come for us so
They go to tech and say protect us now we’ll work with you and you protect us now and you silence that stuff because after they’re done with us they’ll come for you yep so let’s just lock it all in place no i think that this is correct as well i
Think this is why they’ve pulled the trigger kind of as clumsily as they have actually it’s so kind of glaring this could have been done much more smoothly and much more secretively maybe trump disrupted that for them in college oh i think that’s why trump was was the corporations they all said
Absolutely they worked to get him out absolutely i think they knew this is our plan and he won’t do it see this i i completely agree with you though they they have screwed up the financial system it’s probably going to collapse you know did you hear the news from the federal reserve
It came out last week no one is talking about it oh no the federal reserve has a two-year moratorium where they can’t be foyed uh-oh so in 2012 after to 2010 after they finished tarp and all that stuff they came out in 2010 and said we we
Just put on our own papers 5 trillion dollars and we gave the banks 5 trillion well i for one was like did any of that money go overseas where did you do that who got that money so somebody um an economic group filed a foia in 2012.
Well they took it all the way to the supreme court and the supreme court the fed was arguing for national security this can’t be released for at least 10 years well we’re at 2022 it’s just been released oh wow they lied to us oh what
A shock yeah i know two and a half trillion dollars went to citibank alone that’s in effect nationalizing citibank yeah they pre they printed and put on their books not 5 trillion they put 30 trillion dollars and it went all over the world and i believe they’re
Still doing it and that’s what all this inflation is coming we are way out of line and the dollar is going to collapse that’s why they’re coming after bitcoin they’ve got to have a fed coin bitcoin yeah and you can’t do mmt without controlling you and every dollar that’s right that’s
Right i i’m completely convinced that while i you know we talked about the aspirational side of the great reset there’s a more base side as well and the more base side is that these people are frauds and criminals and it’s all coming out and there are some of it’s going to
Be collapse and they need a social control mechanism in place that’s as tight as the chinese one before the pitchers come out yes and i think that’s why they’re making they’re making you know they’ve got their they’ve got the democrats who are being who are either in on it
And i think most democrats now find them in a posi themselves in a position like wait uh that wasn’t but it can’t be because now they were part of it you know what i mean so you don’t want to admit that that’s human nature right so you have that
That’s why they’re going after everyone who votes differently and making them into terrorists that’s why we if you don’t take the vaccine that’s why we should consider cutting you off from medicine let you die maybe put you in a camp that’s why yeah yeah they they know
I i have this really bizarre belief not to get too theoretical out of that i don’t believe that we ever actually had a marketplace of ideas i don’t think it actually arrived i think we ended up getting an aristocracy of ideas through these expert class whether it’s i agree
Big government whether it’s you know uh university progressive era yeah i think that we’ve had an aristocracy of ideas and what happened is that the internet has unleashed the flame of the enlightenment a second time and i’m telling you these people are frauds and they’re criminals and they’re they’re jokes and it it’s
It’s coming for them they are going to lose all of their power they’re going to be exposed for crimes the likes of which we’ve never seen in human history that you you are 100 right this is this i believe is the biggest crime in all of human history it’s like five of
The biggest crimes in human history mixed into one yeah and it when it when it when it all hits if they don’t have us all in cages um they’re in trouble they’re in a lot of trouble they’re in a lot of trouble and if they do have us all in cages
We’re in a lot of trouble because the you know i saw this i don’t know if you saw this clip from the world economic forum one of the elite said you know we did this uh study and uh the good news is the elites trust the other elites more than ever before but
The others don’t trust us anywhere on earth you better have a rock-solid prison everywhere yeah because there will be a revolution yeah that’s exactly correct you know that i put that video on my my own twitter even and just my i guess i don’t have a little account anymore but yeah it’s
Getting there uh but it had something like way over a million maybe over two million views on on just from my account alone so people have seen this people know that it resonated why because the elites think that they’re better than everybody and everybody realizes that now and we don’t like them
We don’t trust them at all i think i put your book in the same category as mine as a rosetta stone once it clicks it it’s you know red pill whatever you want to call it you’re like oh my gosh and everything makes sense it all makes sense yeah everybody’s walking around
Like they’re taking crazy pills yeah i actually think this book is going to be the last necessary word on critical race theory it’s not an interesting subject as somebody who’s read like virtually all of the major works in it it’s not a very interesting subject and once people understand that it’s actually just
Marxism and its point is to destroy society and this book makes it very clear that’s it’s so clear if you read if you would just read the goals of blm i know right i know just read the goals well i’m not for all that i’m just well you’re marching with them you’re
Marching with them you’re fighting you’re powering them yeah the corruption alone is sickening but their goals end the family that’s right and the family and and that’s a marxist goal from forever i mean marx himself railed on the idea of the family as a means by which the capitalism is reproduced and
You’re seeing it with the education um you know department of education and all of the teachers you don’t have the skill to raise your child what do you mean you want to know what we’re teaching i mean and the family and the family and replace it with the the government and
The institution that they run they control they program your children to be that new man with the new interjected morals it’s it’s incredibly scary that it’s got to this point and that people haven’t sounded the alarm and people haven’t stood up and also i mean the problem we face now is that people
Still don’t name names you know you can’t just say they they they eventually we named klaus schwab now um george soros joe biden john kerry yeah but nobody talks about for example gerald and ronnie chan you’ve heard of the harvard t.h chan school of public health right
Which published by the way thanks to my trolling a argument that two plus two can equal five sometimes during a pandemic where people thought they might be over counting t.h chan school of public health there’s an expose in the harvard crimson written by a young person there
At harvard pointing out that the entire entity was funded on a single like half billion dollar donation from ronnie chan and his uh brother i think her cousin something gerald and it’s named after the patriarch of that family well these guys are movers and shakers and olives nobody talks
About james riyadi in the lippo group nobody talks about these people these people are dumping rivers of money into it i just saw today literally in the in the dressing room before i came out here with you that the chans gerald and ronnie chan just bought another school of public health at umass
125 million more dollars why are they buying our public schools of public health during a pandemic the question always comes back to yeah why would they they’re making so much money why would they do anything that would hurt the system that they’re rich in well in different beliefs for different
People but ultimately if we go back to what at least the great reset is or represents is to create a new economy that’s perfectly stable and sustainable it won’t have boom and bust cycles anymore everything will be controlled in 1913 with the federal reserve it’s a complete crackpot it’s a complete
Fabrication it’s not going to work but it doesn’t prevent the people who are pushing it from at least pretending that it’ll work maybe i said there were true believers earlier i think some of them are or at least very hopeful um well they also know they know there’s nothing i mean
They’re out of bullets that’s right they also know it’s their only uh their only hope yeah um i said the other day that because if you you looked into the great recent what they’re planning on the the farming and the food distribution and i mean yeah are you kidding me yes i mean
You’re gonna redesign everything from the soil to the plate on the table yeah all of it’s going to be redesigned and you have confidence that you’re smart enough to figure all that out right in a few years oh my gosh yeah like by 2030 well reorganizing fundamentally what it means to be human
Right at the same time while forcing people to live in smart cities and very high populations and put up with brownouts and everything else that is coming our way yeah um because we can only use green energy right it doesn’t work right i mean it might someday but you don’t just unplug everything
Else where is this magic you know outlet that just got free power and plenty of it for it’s just crazy anyway totally crazy it’s crazy um uh i said that we will see in my lifetime if this goes through a global holodomor yep you agree yeah totally absolutely
Does this starvation’s going to be out of control if you don’t know what a holodomor is you need to look it up but it happened in the ukraine under the soviets and they killed what nine million people three million yeah in a in less than a year or a year yeah
And and then walter durante well first gareth jones exposes this writing for something in the uk and then walter durante working under stalin for the new york times writes the infamous uh article for the new york times ukrainians hungary not starving wins the pulitzer prize for it and our
Illustrious new york times has never disclaimed that prize just like they haven’t disclaimed the 1619 project prize that they won 99 million nine people million people just for ukraine in just ukraine and nobody knows about it nobody talks about it we it’s part of you said how’s nobody
Noticed this you know we hear from the say critical race theorists all the time that we have white-washed education right yeah we have we don’t we have red-washed education very good the communists have organized education we know more i mean i had to read not complaining so many of the books about
The nazi regime we learned all about fascism and nazism national socialism but nobody even knows the black book of communism nobody nobody never heard about all i knew is that communism is some kind of an economic system that we didn’t learn much about yep coming out
Of high school even well i mean granted i majored in stem so different but i didn’t studied in college either uh i learned nothing about holodomor i learned nothing about trophem lysenko i learned nothing about any of the antics that mao pulled that killed millions where he got rid of all
The birds for example uh you know just completely red-washed education where they don’t teach the horrors i’m glad we learned the horrors of nazism i am too we don’t learn the horrors of communism and we should that i think a robust anti-communist education you know trump came out with
His patriotic education okay like whatever i understand that that triggered the crap out of the left and they went berserk because the word patriotic has been stained by the red washing of our country patriotic education fine but what must it what must it can include above all
Else in all countries in the world is anti-communist education people need to know what communism is where it came from what it believes and what it is done and why those things will happen every time it’s tried if we had an actual free market i would suggest to you that this podcast would
Be in the millions within a week but because we don’t have a free market and we are throttled every step of the way we’ve said all of the wrong things we have and used all of the key words we didn’t say that the vaccines don’t work yet
Well now you have i saw the data today though the lockdowns university study i forget john hopkins maybe showed 0.2 percent reduction in mortality for all of those lockdowns 0.2 percent is the upper estimate for how many lives lockdowns that crushed the world might have actually saved 0.2 percent
Well but it was the people with bill gates and the world economic forum and all of those players that gathered that gave the plan handed it to the president here’s we just wargamed this yeah what that’s truly frightening is last month they just same people just war gamed global economic collapse yeah
This is gonna be triggered by a cyber attack yeah how about that yeah yeah yeah they were game to that one too yeah yeah james thank you for what you’re doing thank you for i mean telling the truth i mean and being here i know the first time you
Were here you were a little like i can’t believe i’m in come back studio uh and i just i just really love the honesty of you and the people around you just willing to tell the truth you gotta do it have to have to thank you thanks