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How the Marxist Agenda Is Taking Over America Today—Curtis Bowers | American Thought Leaders

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“The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.”  We all know that saying but it’s a true statement.   Every two-bit dictator in history has  known that you have to get to the children.  A decade ago, Curtis Bowers  made the documentary “Agenda:   Grinding America Down” detailing a communist  agenda to corrupt American institutions—from  

Education to Hollywood to media—and  subvert America and its values from within.  The main strategy was to divide and  conquer—to turn Americans against each other.  In this episode, we sit down with Bowers  to discuss what his film can tell us   about our current political moment, and how  Americans can reconnect with their neighbors.

Curtis Bowers, such a pleasure to  have you on American Thought Leaders. I’m so glad to be here. Thanks for having me. Curtis, it has been 10 years now since you  made the film “Agenda: Grinding America Down,”   essentially looking at the communist  agenda in America and its impacts.   What are you seeing happening today?

I’m seeing that it’s continuing on, but even  in a much more purposeful, open way than it has   in the past. For many years, it’s been more of a  behind the scenes, subtle thing in the background,   but now it’s on our streets. And it’s amazing  that it’s gone in that direction so quickly.

Curtis, a big premise of this film, or  something that’s explored is that there is this   agenda from years back of transforming America  into a more socialist and ultimately communist   country. I think you make the case that  socialism is the road to communism.  

It’s a stepping stone. You describe in the  “Agenda” film a meeting that you decided to attend   that piqued your interest in the topic. I think  it was back in 1992. Tell me a little bit about   what it was like to go to that  meeting and what you learned.

I went to the meeting as a favor to a gentleman  that had been studying communism his whole life   and written many books on it. And he knew he  couldn’t go to the meeting. He said they’ll   know who I am. So would you go and just  hear what they’re having to say? Again,  

People need to remember that in 1989 the Berlin  Wall had come down, and then in December of 1991,   the Soviet Union had dissolved. Now this  is six months later, the summer of 1992. And the Communist Party USA was having  a meeting to break off a new group.  

So I went to the meeting as a favor to somebody.  The first shock was immediate. When I walked   into the room, I thought it was going to be  college radicals. So I had bought a T-shirt   that said something about a revolution.  I thought that’s what it would be about.

Walking into the auditorium,  it was about 1400 people or so,   all 50, 60, and 70 year olds with briefcases  and suits on, and I was one of the few younger   people there. That was a wake up call  that this might be a little more serious  

Than it appears on the surface. And so  that was the first big shock with that. So what happened there? What  did you learn about an agenda? They clearly talked about how they wanted to  finish us off from within. They’ve been working to  

Undermine our families and our business structure  and our morality for a long time. But they said,   “We need to really step that up now even  more.” They acknowledged they were disappointed   that the Soviet Union had to back down from the  world revolution as far as militarily and things.  

“Now we just need to continue what  we’ve been doing at a more serious level   through education, media, and entertainment.” They  wanted to influence the next generation and people   to come alongside them in their movements  to try to slowly take us down from within.

What were your political views at  the time when you went in? You were   obviously going in incognito. Yes, I was a conservative, and I was raised  that way. My parents were teaching me how   things work when I was young, so I knew  what was going on. But again, I went in just  

Saying, “Is this thing for real?” And I had bought  into the lie too. Not the lie, but the deception,   you know, Ronald Reagan won the Cold War, which  he did. And he did some wonderful things. But   as if that meant communism is done, it’s  over. And I kind of bought into that.

So now going there and being in a meeting   where there’s over 1000 of them, I heard how  passionate they were. I could pick up every   thought, almost like it was a pastor at a church  pounding the pulpit. The way they talked about  

America and the free enterprise system that  we love and appreciate was hard to comprehend. I could still picture the old guy out there  talking about that. He said, “It’s the most evil   system that has ever been devised,” just  pounding the pulpit and sweating. I left  

Thinking these people are from another planet.  They don’t have a clue. There’s no way they   will succeed with their plans. That’s what  I thought back then, about 30 years ago. That’s interesting. So this is 1992. Then  something changed. You started seeing some  

Tangible changes, subsequently. I think everybody  was celebrating. I was pretty young at the time,   but seeing that my parents escaped from communist  Poland, this makes me a little bit emotional. I remember my mother believing the Soviet Union  could never fall. This is what they were taught.  

The Soviet Union had occupied Poland, and they  were very acutely aware of that. So when the   Soviet Union fell, for my parents, it was some  sort of unbelievable miracle. You argue that   people took their eyes off the ball, and  an agenda was advanced. So what happened?

Then I had 16 years of getting married and  having children and doing business things,   because it’s such a wonderful country to do  them in. I had just been enjoying America.   Then in 2008, I’m a state representative in Idaho.  All of a sudden legislation was coming across  

My desk. That’s the thing that first  brought back the memory of that meeting. In business, they were calling me about  some environmental legislation, saying   this legislation doesn’t do anything to help the  environment, but it destroys my business. Would  

You vote against this? I started to look into  it more. That’s when I thought, “Wait a minute.”   That’s what they had said back in 1992  as the way they were going to take down   the free enterprise system. They said they were  going to get behind the environmental movement and  

Use it to create so much regulation and red tape,  that it would be hard for a business to survive. In 1992, when they said that, that  was hard to even understand because   the environmental movement was the people  chaining themselves to trees in Oregon and  

Stuff like that. It was not a mainstream movement.  But by 2008, the film “Inconvenient Truth” had   just come out. And it was the biggest movement  in the entire world. That’s what made me revisit   what they had said, and then really dig into the  communist movement at a much more serious level.

Let’s look at some of the things that we’re  talking about. You also mentioned in the film   a book called “The Naked Communist,”  which was written quite a bit earlier.   It also describes a very specific agenda of  transforming society into the communist image.  

Let’s take a few of them that you  think are particularly relevant   attempts at transformation. Maybe we can map  them into what we’re seeing across America today. Absolutely. I’ve got a list right here  because I thought you might bring that up.  

“Goal 17.” All the surveys show 70 plus percent  of young people want socialism. One of the polls   even had 30 percent of young people saying  they wanted communism. Obviously they don’t   know what either one of those things is. They’ve  been brainwashed to think that they’re good.

“Goal 17.” These goals were gathered by FBI agents  in the 40’s and 50’s and then put together into   “The Naked Communist.” The “Goal 17” that they  were talking about in their meetings was to get   control of the schools, use the mass transmission  belts for socialism, and soften the curriculum.  

“We’re going to use them as transmission  belts for socialism to teach socialist ideas   and philosophies and make them sound like they’re  just and right and true and be focused on that.” That’s so vital for so many reasons. One is,  

“the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.”  We all know that saying but it’s a true statement.   Every two-bit dictator in history has known that  you have to get to the children. This agenda   has been primarily focused on influencing the  culture so they could influence the children  

And take over education so they could control  the future. Because if you teach 70 percent of   young people to love socialism, when they  grow up, we are going to have socialism. This makes me think of the prevalent freedom  of speech issues we’re seeing on campus,  

Which is more in the university  setting. How is this connected? You can call it political correctness,  which is just Cultural Marxism. It was   the Frankfurt School, which was a Marxist  group that came up with that whole idea of  

Making certain things off limits. You can’t talk  about that. It’s hateful, or it’s this or that. They always come up with some reason  why you can’t have free speech.   In doing so you’re not allowed to  ever tell the other side of the story.  

And like the old saying goes, “Every story  sounds true til you hear the other side.” The young people have never heard the other side.  If the young people could meet with your parents   that grew up in Poland, and have them say, “This  is what it was like for us.” If those type of  

Things could happen, then the lies disappear very  quickly. That’s why they had to have political   correctness. That’s why they have rules of what  can be said and not said on college campuses.   Because you’re not going to buy the lie once you  hear the truth if it’s presented side by side.  

That’s been a key strategy to do  away with the freedom of speech. You dig into this in the film certainly,  and you know quite a bit about this. Briefly   tell me about the Frankfurt  School and also Herbert Marcuse,  

Who’s someone that you talk about in that film  that is pivotal in this Cultural Marxist agenda. The Frankfurt School is a group of intellectuals  that were brought to America back in the 1930’s   because of the war churning up in Europe.  They were Marxist and communist. John Dewey,  

Who is the father of modern public  education, is the one that brought   them over to America and dropped them  down at a lot of our top universities. Willi Munzenberg, who was one of the leaders,  outlined their goals. He basically said,  

“We’re going to make the West so corrupt,  it stinks. We’re going to rock them from   within, and we’re going to teach immorality to  the young people. We’re going to try to push   pornography and we’re going to try to increase  alcoholism.” They had a lot of goals in things.

They came over and they were put in a lot of  the top schools. Their goal was to capture media   and education, and then to change the  culture through capturing those institutions.   In the movie, one of the slogans they came up with  is “make love, not war.” It’s really about subtly  

Breaking down traditions, breaking  down the way we’ve always done things,   and then setting the stage to present something  new to the young people. They have done so much   damage in Hollywood and in the educational  system. That’s why they’ve both changed so much.

In the introductory clip at the beginning of  the Agenda II film you have Agustin Blazquez, a   Cuban filmmaker and a staunch anti-communist.  He has a very interesting story.   At one point his family were supporters of  the revolution, because they believed in  

This beautiful new world that they could  create in place of what was already there.   Tell me a bit about that, and this type of  idealism and the deception that uses that. It was sobering 50 years after  that talking to him. He said,  

“A lot of the propaganda I’m hearing in America  right now sounds exactly what Castro was doing   back then.” Back then we all thought, this  sounds good. It’s about justice and equality and   being fair and being for the people. It’s  just the same deception over and over again.

His family said, “We knew it was really  bad one night when we were watching   the television station, and we saw our uncle  go before a firing squad on the evening news.”   That was when we realized something’s  changing. Because when they first come  

To power communists sometimes don’t get  drastic immediately. They slowly make sure   they have control of everything and keep  talking propaganda. Then they crack down. He told me about the crack down. His dad came  home one day from their sugar plantation which  

Was one of the largest in Cuba. He said for hours  he wouldn’t even talk. Mom kept asking, “What’s   wrong, what’s wrong?” He just shook his head and  couldn’t talk. It finally came out later. He said,   “We have nothing. They’ve taken everything.  They just took the sugar plantation.  

I’m just working for them now out in  the fields cutting the sugarcane.” He had so many stories of what that is like,  which our young people don’t understand. And   most Americans don’t understand. We just  don’t understand. I’ve had the blessing   of and privilege of talking to hundreds  of these people all over America.  

Because of the film, they come up and tell  me their stories. And they’re all the same:   “We were promised all this and we got nothing  except a nightmare.” And it’s really powerful. When he was getting ready to leave Cuba  at 18 years old, and not ever come back,  

He couldn’t even tell his own parents,  because he said every family had an informant.   And he didn’t know who it was. And he was scared  it might stop him from being able to go. He got  

Some kind of permission to go get a degree to come  back and help Cuba be better. He knew that he was   not coming back and he never did, but he couldn’t  tell his own parents. That’s a system of fear.

One time when he was just walking down the  street as a teenager, he was thrown in the   back of a police car and taken to prison. He spent  24 hours there and was abused, and then let go.  

I said, “Why did they do that?” He said, “So I  would be in such fear of them, I would always   obey them. They do it to everybody, periodically.  You didn’t do anything wrong, you were just there.  

That’s when I knew I had to leave, I was scared to  leave my home most of the time, unless I had to.” Communism and socialism leads to that. The reason  people don’t understand why it leads to that,  

And it has to lead to that, is that socialism  doesn’t work. As it starts to collapse,   the people in power are not going to lose  their power. So that’s when the guns come out. They can only do that if they’ve  created a socialist society,  

Where they have the levers of control. It’s  hard to go from free enterprise to communism,   because the people still own all the wealth  and the power and the money-making things.   That’s a hard transition, you’ve  got to go into socialism first.

Let the government get the levers of power. Then  whenever you need to, you can say, “No more Mr.   Nice Guy,” and you have the ability to do that.  Because you can shut off the electrical power,   or have the person lose their  job or whatever you need to do.  

But it always goes that way.  Because these systems do not work. Mr. Jekielek: There are so many things  to unpack in what you just talked about.   The first one reminds me of the informants  thing. That’s something that anyone that  

I’ve ever spoken to that’s lived in a communist  country understands completely. But for people   that have not lived in a communist country it’s  kind of baffling because it’s hard to imagine. It reminds me of the film “The Lives of  Others,” which won Best Foreign Language  

Film at the 2006 Academy Awards. I’d recommend  it to everybody watching right now. “The Lives of   Others,” is the English translated title.  Basically, it’s about a Stasi agent.   This is the East German secret police known  as one of the worst in the Soviet bloc.

It explains what it would  be like to live in a society   where everyone is informing on everybody  else. They’re incentivized both positively,   i.e. they’ll get some benefits for doing it, or  negatively, in exactly the way that you described.   It’s expected that you will inform. It’s  expected that you will contribute to dossiers.

I remember [learning that] back in Poland—and  I’m kind of ranting a little bit here myself—I   remember in Poland people were stunned after 1989  when they opened up the archives. They showed   parish priests were informing on people that  were confessing to them, for example. Husbands  

Had been informing on their wives contributing  to these dossiers. It was all unimaginable and   unthinkable even to people there who knew that  everyone was informing. They expected that some   of these relationships would still be holy and  outside of that, but it just wasn’t the case.

That’s my comment. I’m going to  get back to speaking with you here.   How does this apply to us today? We’ve  had an incredibly tumultuous year   2020. I keep seeing people say we  thought we had seen it all for 2020,  

And then something else comes up that makes it  even crazier. What are you seeing in terms of   these realities that you’ve documented  in Agenda and know with respect to today? Mr. Bowers: Even in relation to  what you were just talking about,  

That informant in every family. That concept is  the final level of division where you’ve even   broken down every family to where individual  people that can’t even talk to each other.   The same thing is going on right now with  all these movements to try to divide us from  

Each other, to make us think we’re  all against each other and to make   people discontented and fearful of each  other. That is all Marx’s strategy. No well-meaning person would ever try to  get people to think we’re against each  

Other and not think the best, and not work  toward the best. So it’s divide and conquer.   They know a country like America is so strong and  healthy and unified that it would be impossible   to conquer. And so we’ve got to divide  them up with the rich against the poor,  

The blacks against the whites, and the  young against the old. Anything you can do. [They are] just creating groups of people, not  to help those people, but to use those people.   They never provide what they promised. They just  promise you everything to get you to come along  

And join their bandwagon. But it doesn’t ever  materialize into what they told you, because it’s   not supposed to. Because you never want to solve  those problems, you only want to make them worse. For an average person that’s something that’s  difficult to understand. I remember when I first  

Realized, “These people don’t think like I  do.” That’s why I’ve underestimated them.   That’s why I’ve been so naive, because I  would never think of trying to turn someone   against someone else, or cause  division and hatred and anger   and confusion. But these people do  that. We have to understand that.

Look at the education in America  that we were just talking about.   Why has not a single educational program through  the last five or six presidents, Republican   or Democrat, done anything to improve our public  schools? You’re just told we need more money. They  

Don’t want to solve the problem. Because when you  solve a problem, the government needs less power. If a problem can become larger, then they  need more power to be able to solve the   bigger problem. That’s why they always want  to make big problems get bigger and bigger.  

Anyone that’s part of the establishment,  whether it’s Republicans or Democrats, you   want the government to be able to expand and keep  having more coming in to solve bigger problems. As I studied and looked through it, it was like  that for every single one of them from Bush  

Sr. to Clinton to Bush Jr. to Obama. I  used to be a high school math teacher.   When I was in education, you could see clearly  this isn’t going to help the system. This   is not going to help these kids get a better  education, it’s going to hurt that process.

You see the lie of that, and then  you realize that they want the system   to create someone that’s not  capable of providing for themselves.   Then the government has to step up even more to  provide jobs and incomes and health care, because  

These people literally don’t have the character,  the virtue, the morality and the discipline to be   able to do that. That’s what we’re seeing and it’s  happening in so many areas. Divide and conquer   is a communist strategy that they  have used from the beginning.

That’s very interesting. A lot of very  well meaning people would say, no,   it’s just mismanagement. It’s a conspiracy theory   to say someone is undermining the education  system so that American children do poorly   and they’re more susceptible to control.  What evidence did you find of this?

Several things. Actually, that was my thought  for 30 years, “These [mismanaging] people are   just naive. They just don’t know what makes a  good education.” But then something happened.   I started homeschooling my own kids. And as  we did that, I realized to teach a five or  

Six year old to read, it only takes about an  hour a day for six months. How are we turning   out 18 year olds who have been in the system  for 13 or 14 years, and they can barely read? Wait a minute, something’s wrong here.  

The evidence is crystal clear. We know  how to give a child a good education.   We’ve known that for hundreds of years. It’s  rigorous debate and argument, logical thinking,   mathematics and science. If you look at the  schools today, hardly any of that is there.

They’ve taken out all the things  that make someone have a sharp mind   that can discern truth from error. They didn’t  want someone that can discern truth from error.   Because you cannot use a person  that can discern truth from error.   And so it’s been very purposeful.  There’s plenty of evidence to show that

What made you decide to homeschool? That same thing that we just talked about. Having  been a teacher myself 20 years ago, I thought,   “This system is broken.” Everything  is dumbed down to the lowest level;   you’re not trying to pull the cloud up;  you’re having to teach to the lowest level.  

And so the sharp kids get bored, then all the  people in the middle are kind of “Whatever.” Clearly, it was a system that  just wasn’t working for me.   I want my kids to have a future. To have a future  you need a good education, you need to know how  

To read and how to think. So if you can read  anything, you can learn anything. It’s why I   tell my kids, “I’m not going to be able to teach  you everything. But if you’re a great reader,  

Everything I didn’t teach you is in a book. You  can read any book on any topic at any time and   become an expert. You can read history so you can  go back in time and live with people that you’ll  

Never get to know. You can go meet people you’ll  never meet and you can do so much in a book.” Phyllis Schlafly spent so  much of her life exposing   what had been happening in the educational system  to make children where they weren’t good readers  

Purposely. They couldn’t even read about  the founding fathers because it would   require sufficient reading skills. They wouldn’t  know where we came from, or where we’re going.   A very key piece of taking over a  country is dumbing down the population. Fascinating, and of course very deeply  disturbing to know that this is something that  

Some people are thinking of. I’m thinking  about the Cloward-Piven strategy created   by two Columbia University professors,  which I’m sure you’re very familiar with.   I don’t believe this figures into your movies,  per se. The idea that someone would create a plan  

To overwhelm the welfare system in New  York City in order to break the connection   between work and compensation, with an idea  to create this better world, so to speak. When I first read about that just  within the last several years   I was stunned to imagine that  someone actually conceived of this  

And actually implemented it and arguably was was  ultimately successful in bankrupting the city.   Are there other examples of these  plans or agendas that come to you? The whole philosophy behind that plan is to  create chaos. It’s to cause the system to  

Collapse. Anything to make things worse, like  I was saying before. I know a lot of people   listening wonder, “they want to make things  worse?” Yes, they do. I know you don’t think   like that because you’re a nice, thoughtful,  kind, loving person. But these people do.

You read “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky,  who is the commander of the current movement.   I’ve actually got some of his quotes right here.  You lie about the opposition, while accusing them   of lying about you. You’re flipping everything  around on its head. That’s what this is.

But the Cloward-Piven strategy has to burden down  the system so it will collapse. Through collapse,   then you can maybe put your puppet up that’s  for the people. And that’s for justice and   equality. It’s always to divide people from the  poor. It’s to use the poor, not help the poor.

Who has done more to help the poor  recently than anyone? President Trump,   whether you like him or not. President  Trump created circumstances that helped   more people get jobs than any  time in the history of America,   especially of minorities. I was so excited  about that. I think 10 million people just in  

His first three years were removed off the welfare  rolls. That’s a successful campaign right there. With the Cloward-Piven strategy, they wanted  to increase the welfare rolls and get more   people tied into the system, a system that we know  doesn’t work. Has it freed people over time? No,  

It hasn’t. No matter how we could argue about  the well-meaningness or not of these programs,   the reality is we have a track record of 60 years  to look at now. And still we go, “It might work!” It doesn’t help anyone get independence  and freedom or help in being prosperous and  

Enjoying the benefits of living  in America. It doesn’t do that.   It will enslave them generationally  in these entitlements. What’s going on right now like  that, to answer your question, is   the mail-in voting. Anything to discredit any  part of America, where we lose confidence in our  

System. So many people have done these studies,  just recently in the last few weeks, and have   already exposed all the corruption. People  are ballot harvesting and everything else.   That’s another way that they’re discrediting  the whole system. When you want to destroy  

Something, you need to start breaking it  apart into pieces so that it can collapse. So what are you recommending to people? You made  a prediction in 2010 and said things are going   in a bad way. You challenged people to make a  difference. You had a second film, “Agenda II,”  

Which pointed in the exact same direction. You  argued even a little bit here today that things   still have not gone well. There’s a lot of  disillusioned people. What do you say to people? Don’t ever think that Washington, D.C. is the  solution to our problems. It’s one piece  

Of the puzzle, but we can’t wait too much on  them to get things done when they’re not good   at doing anything. We should be more focused on  our local area; our cities or towns or counties. What can we do as citizens to improve  any problem that exists in our community?  

How can we organize here to accomplish this  at the local level? So there won’t be anything   for the federal government to do? Because  when we’ve already solved our own problems,   there’s accountability. There’s  real relationships with real people.   It’s our children that we’re talking  about. It’s not somebody else’s children.

And that’s what we’ve got to do. We’ve  got to break away from the entanglements   of thinking we need to do things  the federal government’s way,   and that they’re the solution. And if it’s not  working now, then if we just get our guy in there,  

Then it’ll be working. We’ve been seeing  for a long time that doesn’t do too much. I think President Trump has done a good job  in doing what he said he would do. That is so   refreshing, whether you like him or not. To  have someone do what he said he would do is  

Such a breath of fresh air. At least he’s  honest whether you like what he’s doing or not.   That’s one key part. We have to act if we  want to have real solutions to real problems,

We need to go after the young people. We have to  do what they’ve done, which is just logical common   sense. If you’re not imparting what you believe  into people that are younger than you before you   die, your ideas are dying off. You have to be  investing in, influencing, and educating people  

That are younger than you, maybe your own children  and grandchildren, or maybe somebody else’s. If you’re an older man, go to the local  college and invite some of the guys over   for pizza. Show them how to change the  oil on their car, build relationships,  

And then you can start to have influence.  We just want them to believe what we say.   And they’re not going to because  they’ve been brainwashed in such a way. It’s hard to buy the opposite of what you’ve  been told without a lot of conditioning  

For that to happen. It needs a relationship  for that to happen. Because it’s too big a   bridge to cross. That’s how you know that  brainwashing is going on. Because when you   present the truth to someone, and they  can’t accept it, even when it’s clear,  

And they know you’re not lying, that means  they’ve been brainwashed. If you’re just   ignorant about something and someone tells  you a different way of doing things. Oh,   what about this? You say, “Oh, I didn’t know that.  Thanks, I appreciate you sharing that with me.”

I was in the restaurant business for years,  and had hundreds of college students work   for me. We were good friends, because they  had worked there for three or four years   at a time. But they were very, very liberal  for being college students. And we would have  

Great debates in the evenings on so many  current events. But they knew I loved them. And I would always present the truth to them.  So many times the young people I knew well   would tell me what they thought  on an issue. Then I’d say, “Okay,  

Now listen to this.” I would share  with them the other side of that story.   A lot of times, they couldn’t take that step,  even though they knew everything I said was true.   They knew that I wasn’t lying, that I’m  not a liar, and that I care about them.  

They would just say, “My professor said…”  and I could tell they’ve been brainwashed. When you can’t take a step when  facts are right in front of you,   that shows what you believe wasn’t true, that’s a  problem. That’s what we have going on. That’s why  

We really need to build the relationships  and invest the time in young people. Then   keep doing what we can do in our circle of  influence. That’s what I encourage you to do.   If you have three friends, influence those three  friends. We need to realize the only solutions  

To our problems are coming from the bottom up,  they’re not going to be coming from the top down. Curtis, we’ve seen over the last several months, a  huge movement, Black Lives Matter. A lot of people   out on the streets protesting the unfair treatment  of black Americans at the hands of police and  

Elsewhere. At the same time, we’ve learned that  some of the leadership of the actual organization   Black Lives Matter are avowed Marxists. Is  this concerning to you.? Are you aware of this? Yes, it is. Because I know Marxists, as we talked  about before, don’t want to solve problems. They  

Want to create problems, or make problems  that exist much, much worse. Saul Alinsky   mentioned in his book that this is one of the key  strategy points. He said that we need to separate   the revolution from communism to disguise where  we’re really going. And so that’s what this is.

When you see the buildings burning down, that’s  not helping black people in America in any way,   shape, or form. Their solution is always  worse than the problem most of the time.   But there is one book for those that  want to know more about how the black  

Community has been used by the communists for  decades in this country. It’s a book called   “Color, Communism, and Common  Sense,” by Manning Johnson. Manning Johnson was a black man who was one of  the leaders in the Communist Party USA. And he  

Had even gone over to Moscow to train. He started  to realize, “Wait a minute, this is about using   black people, not helping them.” He wrote that he  defected from the Communist Party. He testified   before Congress about what they had done to hurt  the black community. Then he wrote this book.

He traveled and spoke for one year, and then  he died, which was a tragedy. He would have   been such a powerful force in exposing this  Marxist strategy to use the black community.   They customize their strategy for any group of  people. But for the black people that had been  

So used for so long or mistreated in different  ways, they’re trying to stir that back up again. What I think is that it’s truly gotten so much  better. I know that there are racial problems,   yes, but they’re not nearly what  they make them out to be. But we  

Need to do one thing, and I’ll encourage  people with another action point. I feel   so bad about what has happened and how things  have been stirred up. I’ve done this many times. When I see some black families or individuals  sitting together somewhere when they’re not in  

A hurry or busy, I come over and say, “With all  that’s going on in the country, is it okay if   I share something with you?” They always say,  “Sure what is it?” I’m thinking of these two  

Black men that were sitting on a bench at this  hotel I came out of, and I said that to them. I said, “I’m obviously white, as you can see,  and I’ve known thousands of white people of my  

Life. And I’ve never met one that doesn’t love  and appreciate you all. We even admire you,   and your athletic abilities and your  music abilities and your sense of humor.   I just want to know when people tell  you whites hate you, they’re lying  

To you. We do not hate you. We love  you. We’re thankful for you. I just   wanted to share that with you, because I feel  terrible about what’s going on in our country.” And the one man right when I said that, he  stood up and said, “You tell that to every  

Black person you meet.” And I said, “Okay, I’ll  try to.” It lifted the burden on his back of   thinking that “white people hate me.” That is  a lie. There might be a few white people in  

America that hate me, but it’s not even a tenth  or a thousandth of 1%. But we fixate on that. The media does because they love  stirring things up. They’re part of this.   We’re totally unified in so many areas. But again,  they want division. But those that are white can  

Go over the top in a loving way to let them know,  “I’m so glad you’re in my country. We love you,   we’re thankful for you. Don’t believe anything  else someone’s telling you.” I’ve done it many   times, and it really lifts their spirits. They  say, “Oh, thank you.” And I say, “You’re welcome.”  

Anyways, those are the type of things we can be  doing that impact real people at a local level. You’re right there and you’re changing somebody’s  life. I help remove that lie from those people   where they’re free the rest of their life.  They’re not thinking “All these white people  

Hate me,” which is a horrible thought. I hate  that the media pounds that into their minds,   because it’s evil to tell someone that.  I have a lot of opportunities to say,   “We love you, we’re so thankful for you.  We’re thankful to live with you, and  

You’re part of America. Don’t ever let them  separate you from us, we want you with us.” That’s what we need to do in all these  different areas. Start exposing the lies   one person at a time, and then look for  solutions at the local level to combat  

This strategy that tries to destroy this wonderful  country that’s been a blessing to so many people. Curtis, what are you doing these days? I’m doing a lot of different things. I’ve  been traveling the last several months,   speaking all over the country on these topics.  Because as the buildings started burning,  

People started saying, “Your movies were talking  about this stuff, weren’t they?” And I said,   “Yes, they were.” So I’ve been doing that. I  do a podcast that I’m just getting going plus   working on some other educational tools to  let people know what’s going on. On a weekly  

Basis, here’s what you need to  be doing to make a difference. Curtis, any final thoughts before we finish up? I’d like to say thank you for what you’re  doing. I appreciate your shows. I appreciate   what the Epoch Times is doing. It’s a  blessing to have a new source out there  

That’s speaking the facts people can listen  to and decide to believe or not, but without   this big agenda. You have all been a tremendous  blessing to me personally, and to the thousands   of people I’ve met that are taking the paper  and learning about what’s really going on.

I’ve studied what’s going on in the  world and specifically in America.   Marxism is the dominant philosophy that’s  dominating the world. The BBC in 1999 had a survey   asking people who was the most influential person  of the last thousand years and Karl Marx won.

You are the only paper that is telling people what  the Marxists are doing, what their philosophies   are, and what their strategies are, so that we can  have our eyes open and see this threat that is all  

Around us wherever we are in the world. That it’s  really happening. You have been such a blessing   because it’s helped people  finally get the information   on what Marxism is. That this is  what’s really going on. This is what   they’re really saying. This is what they’re  really doing. This is their real philosophy.

I recommend to people wherever I go that they  need to be a subscriber of the Epoch Times.   It’s just one piece of the puzzle, but it’s a  key one because they’re giving you something   that you cannot get anywhere  else. It’s incredibly valuable.

Curtis, thank you so much for those kind  words and such a pleasure to have you on. Likewise, thank you so much.

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