MAYORKAS TO MEXICO CITY TODAY TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT OBRADOR INSED OF TOURING OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND WHERE IS THE PRESIDENT? HE’S READY TO LAND IN ST. CROIX FOR A WEEK VACATION. JOINING ME IS THE ARIZONA SHERIFF AND U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE SHERIFF MARK LAMB. SHERIFF, GOOD MORNING TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> GOOD MORNING TO YOU, THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON. JACKIE: THESE NUMBERS ARE ABSOLUTELY STAGGERING. 35,000 IN JUST FOUR DAYS. THE SITUATION CONTINUES TO GET WORSE. ART DEL CUETO TOLD US IT’S THE WORST HE’S SEEN IN HIS LIFETIME. YOUR REACTION? >> WELL, IT’S THE WORST MY GUYS
HAVE SEEN AS WELL, JACKIE. WE WORK WITH BORDER PATROL. WE HAVE A COUPLE HELICOPTERS. WE USE THE HELICOPTER THE TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE THEIR MISSION AND THE OTHER DAY OUR GUYS WERE OUT DOING 911 CALLS, RESCUE MISSIONS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THE CARTELS HAVE LEFT BEHIND AND MY PILOTS WERE SAYING WE’VE NEVER
SEEN IT THIS BAD. THERE’S PEOPLE EVERYWHERE IN THE DESERT OUT THERE. AND ART WILL TELL YOU AS WELL, ONE PLACE THEY DON’T ALLOW YOU TO RISK IS THE RESERVATION AND THAT PLACE IS FLOODED AS WELL WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT VIEWED BY MUCH OF THE MEDIA. JACKIE: WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE
MASSIVE MIGRANT CARAVAN MAKING ITS WAY TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN BORDER RIGHT NOW. ONE ACTIVIST SAYING IT COULD SWELL TO OVER 15,000 PEOPLE. THAT WOULD MAKE IT ONE OF THE LARGEST TO TRAVEL NORTH THIS YEAR. SHERIFF, HOW ARE YOUR FORCES PREPARING FOR THIS SURGE? WE KNOW THAT OUR AGENTS DOWN AT THE BORDER ARE COMPLETELY
STRAPPED AND STRUGGLING TO DEAL WITH THE INFLUX OF MIGRANTS RIGHT NOW AND IN SOME CASES PUTTING THEIR LIVES AT RISK. >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY. I GOT A CALL ON THANKSGIVING DAY. I IMAGINE IT’S GOTTEN A LOT WORSE IN DECEMBER AS YOUR NUMBERS FROM SHOW, FROM BORDER PATROL ON THANKSGIVING DAY SAY
THEY WERE OUTNUMBERED 200 TO ONE, IT’S CLOSER TO 300 TO 400 TO ONE. CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING ONE BORDER PATROL AGENT WITH ALL THESE MILITARY AGED MEN. YOU’RE SEEING WOMEN HERE. IN ARIZONA WE’RE SEEING MILITARY AGED MEN COMING FROM SENEGAL, EGYPT, ALL OVER THE PLACE, SO ABSOLUTELY I THINK OUR GUYS ARE
CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY AS ARE MINE HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO STOP THIS MANY PEOPLE? YOU NEED A MILITARY TO STOP THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. THIS IS AN INVASION, JACKIE. THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS. JACKIE: ADAM. >> SHERIFF LAMB, ADAM JOHNSON. YOU MENTIONED MILITARY. I’M INTRIGUED THAT THE GOVERNOR
OF ARIZONA, A DEMOCRAT, CALLED UP THE RESERVISTS, THE NATIONAL GUARD. SHERIFF, HELP HAD US UNDERSTAND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD HAVE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNMENT AT ODDS WITH ONE ANOTHER ON DIFFERENT MISSIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, THE FEDERAL AGENTS ARE TOLD PROCESS THESE PEOPLE. THE RESERVISTS ARE TOLD NO,
WE’RE ACTUALLY GOING TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE BORDER AND THEN YOUR PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT ARE SOMEHOW CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE TRYING TO SPOT FROM HELICOPTERS. HOW DO ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES WORK TOGETHER SOMETIMES AT ODDS WITH ONE ANOTHER? >> WELL, WE DO PRETTY WELL ON THE GROUND WORKING TOGETHER.
LOOK, TEXAS IS DEALING WITH THAT. THEY’LL BE PUT UP BARBED WIRE AND YOU’LL SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LIFTING THE BARBED WIRE, CUTTING THE BARBED WIRE. IN A ARIZONA, SHE DEPLOYED THE NATIONAL GUARD, THE GOVERNOR HAS. I’M AFRAID THE NATIONAL GUARD IS ONLY THERE TO HELP PROCESS PEOPLE FASTER, NOT THERE TO STOP
THEM FROM COMING IN AND THAT IS WHAT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT WE NEED IS ACTUAL PEOPLE THERE TO STOP THEM FROM COMING IN. WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM EVER IF WE DON’T STOP THESE FOLKS FROM JUST FLOWING IN UNABATED INTO THIS COUNTRY. JACKIE: TODD?
?>> SHERIFF, YOU ARE RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATE IN ARIZONA, ONE OF THE SWING STATES THAT COULD BUMP CHUCK SCHUMER OUT OF POWER AND FLIP THE CHAMBER. WHEN YOU’RE ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, WHEN YOU’RE TALKING TO VOTERS, SPECIFICALLY THOSE REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, ARE YOU HEARING THEM TELL YOU SAY, LOOK,
I VOTED DEMOCRAT MY ENTIRE LIFE BUT BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION AT THE BORDER, I CAN’T VOTE DEMOCRAT ANYMORE? I NEED TO VOTE FOR A CHANGE AND THAT’S WHY A VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN AND WHY A VOTE FOR YOU? >> YEAH, TODD, YOU’RE SEEING THAT MORE AND MORE EVERY DAY.
I GO OUT AND HONESTLY THE BIGGEST ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE BORDER, CRIME, THE ECONOMY AND NATIONAL SECURITY AND NATIONAL SECURITY, BORDER SECURITY ARE INTERTWINED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS THE GREATEST THREAT BEING POSED TO THE AMERICANS. AND EVEN THE DEMOCRATS UNDERSTAND THAT. AND HERE IN ARIZONA, WE HAVE A
LOT OF HISPANICS IN ARIZONA, A LOT OF PEOPLE OF MEXICAN DESCENT AND THEY’RE FED UP TOO. A LOT OF P THEM CAME THE PROPER WAY, PUT THE TIME AND EFFORT IN TO BE LEGAL T CITIZENS. THIS IS WHY I’M RUNNING FOR SENATE. I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AS A
SHERIFF AND I REALIZE THAT A LOT OF THIS FIGHT HAS TO BE B TAKEN TO WASHINGTON, D.C. WE’VE GOT TO BOOT THESE OUT THAT ARE IN POWER, IMPEACH PEOPLE LIKE MAYORKAS, DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THEM OUT OF THERE AND GET PEOPLE THAT WILL PUT AMERICA FIRST AND AMERICANS FIRST.
JACKIE: WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NEW POLLS THAT INDICATE THAT TRUMP IS LEADING BIDEN IN EVEN SWING STATES, ARIZONA IS ON THAT LIST AS WELL. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE GROUND FROM THE FOLKS THAT YOU’RE SPEAKING TO. YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE ISSUES VOTERS ARE THINKING ABOUT AS THEY MOVE INTO THE ELECTION
SEASON OF 2024. YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE QUESTION REALLY IS, HAS IT GOTTEN BAD ENOUGH TO SHIFT PEOPLE’S VIEWS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY WHEN THEY GO VOTE? >> YEAH, THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION, JACKIE. IN 2022, I DON’T THINK IT WAS BAD ENOUGH. PEOPLE WERE STILL MAKING A LOT OF MONEY.
PEOPLE WERE DRIVING NICE CARS AND THEY HAD FOOD IN THEIR CUPBOARDS. THAT’S DIFFERENT NOW. PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING. THE ECONOMY IS KILLING PEOPLE, BREAKING THE BACKS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEN YOU THROW THE BORDER SITUATION ON TOP WHICH ISN’T ANY BETTER. THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. WE’RE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. THE MEDIA’S TALKING ABOUT IT.
YET, THIS GOVERNMENT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY GO TO MEXICO TO TRY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM THERE. THEY’RE NOT INTERESTED IN FIXING THIS. THIS IS PART OF THEIR PLAN. THEY WANT TO REINVENT AMERICA, LIKE OBAMA SAID, FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM AMERICA. THIS IS PART OF THE PLAN AND A UNFORTUNATELY THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ARE THE VICTIMS OF THE PLAN OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. JACKIE: AND REFORMING IMMIGRATION IN THIS WAY WILL FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE AMERICA AS YOU SUGGEST. FINAL QUESTION, SHERIFF. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS TRIP MAYORKAS AND BLINKEN GOING TO MEXICO, WE HAVEN’T SEEN THIS ADMINISTRATION TAKE ANY ACTION WHATSOEVER SO I MEAN, WHY BOTHER
EVEN WITH THIS TRIP? IT SEEMS LIKE IT’S JUST AN OPTICAL ILLUSION TO ME. >> IT’S A DOG AND PONY SHOW, THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT ILLS. THEY WANT TO MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THEY’RE TRYING TO SOLVE THE ROOT PROBLEM. LOOK, MEXICO JUST IS LETTING EVERYBODY COME THROUGH LIKE A
MATADOR, THEY LET THEM COME INTO AMERICA BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT THEM TO STAY THERE IN MEXICO. PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PLAN OF REMAIN IN MEXICO WORKED. WE WERE HAVING THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS WE EVER SAW IN OUR CAREERS UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND NOW WE’VE GOT THESE GUYS IN OFFICE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
IT HAS PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE AND WORSE AND IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE EVERY DAY. WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO STOP IT AS AMERICANS. JACKIE: I’M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT IT’S OPTICS TO MAKE IT SEEM AS IF THEY’RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THE ROOT PROBLEM. ON SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES WITH
MARIA SENATOR RON JOHNSON SAID THE ADMINISTRATION IS THE ROOT PROBLEM. SHER
