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Is the US Breaking Apart? | Why Some Conservatives Want to Form New States

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The US feels more divided than ever. And some states want to leave. Why is this happening? And what’s the future of America? Hi.   Welcome to America Uncovered. I’m Chris Chappell. Be sure to subscribe and hit that like  button, it helps us with the Youtube algorithm

If you’ve been keeping an eye on the news,   it might seem like the West Coast of  the United States is about to fracture. I don’t mean literally.  What I mean is, there’s been a lot of  talk lately in the Pacific Northwest  

About secession—that is, areas wanting to  leave the country or leave a state. And   that would mean changing state borders that  have been in place for more than 100 years. If you look at this map of red counties  and blue counties from the 2020 election,  

You can see that there’s a  big divide in the Northwest. And that could explain why some red counties in   Oregon want to leave the state  and escape to “Greater Idaho.” A lawmaker from Eastern Washington has  called for the creation of a brand new state.

And a radical plan to split California into  three states even got onto the ballot recently. I guess ABC News really nailed it in  February of 2020 when they said, “The   political divide…has gotten so severe that some  conservative residents are fighting to secede…”. Wait…February of 2020? That’s a year ago!

Just how far back does this “divide” go, anyway? Hmm, here’s one from 2019. And another from 2017. This article from 2013 asks why are so many  counties trying to secede from their states? It turns out, “state partition  proposals,” as they’re called,  

Have been all the rage in the Pacific  Northwest for a long time. A really long time. People in parts of Oregon and Northern California   have been trying to establish the State  of Jefferson on and off since 1941. Meanwhile, Eastern Washington has been voted  “most likely to secede ever since 1861”.

This includes attempts to turn  Eastern Washington and parts of Idaho   into the State of Lincoln in 1907,  1913, 1915, 1921, 1922, 1923, and 1929, As well as an attempt to turn Eastern  Washington into the State of Roosevelt in 1937. Hmm…Jefferson State, Lincoln  State, and Roosevelt State.  

Because why should President  Washington have all the glory? Finally, more recently, there  have been proposals to create   the State of Liberty out of Eastern Washington  in 1985, 1991, 2001, 2005, 2015, 2017,   2019, 2020, and as recently as  [looks at watch/phone] right now.

I had no idea that Eastern Washington  was the Texas of the Pacific Northwest.  But it’s not just Eastern  Washington that wants to secede.   There is even a small political party, the  Cascadia Independence Party, centered around   creating a new country—that’s  right, country—called Cascadia. More on that after the break. Welcome Back.

Some people in the Pacific Northwest  want to form a new country: Cascadia. It would be made from parts of California,  Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Alaska, and Canada. That just looks ridiculous.  If we’re going to do that,   we might as well just take the rest of Canada,  too. I call dibs on Prince Edward Island. 

To be fair, some supporters see  Cascadia not as a separate country,   but as a “bioregion.” It’s not clear how a  “bioregion” is run politically. Probably…badly. Anyway, as you can see, the  current push to form Greater Idaho   is just the most recent in a long  chain of state partition movements.

Some of the early partitioners  wanted to draw new state lines mainly   because of geography. People in Eastern  Washington had a giant mountain range   separating them from the  capital, which is near the coast. Back in 1860, as professor at the  University of Washington wrote,  

“Naturally enough, [residents east of the  mountains] were opposed to looking longer toward   Olympia for legislative favors and to making  that long journey to transact public business.” I can’t say I blame them. I hear traveling  across mountains by wagon can be grueling. Donner, party of 50? Too soon?

But geography wasn’t the  only thing creating barriers.   Later partitioners cited cultural divides between  urban and rural areas as a key reason for changing   state lines. They felt unrepresented  and overridden by folks in big cities. One movement leader in California notes that  a single state senator represents 11 counties  

In rural northern California, while Los  Angeles County alone has 11 senators. Meanwhile, Eastern Washington sends only  33 legislators to the capitol in Olympia,   while Western Washington sends 114. This  is because there are more people in the   urban areas than the rural areas,  so they get more representation. 

But it wasn’t always that way. Historically,  many states had two legislative bodies   that were elected differently. State  assemblies would be determined by population,   so urban areas would have more power. But  state senates weren’t weren’t determined by   population. Each county in a state would  get the same number of state senators  

Regardless of how many people lived there.  That meant rural areas had more power.   But that changed after a 1964 Supreme Court  ruling in the case of Reynolds v. Sims.  The court ruled that the equal protection clause  under the 14th amendment “requires that state  

Legislative districts should be comprised  of roughly equal populations if possible.” So now state senates are also determined  by population. The result is that people   in rural areas feel like they’re being squashed  by a political majority in a capital far away.   A majority that designs  policies for Portland or Seattle  

That don’t work in other parts of those states.  Let’s take the example of rancher Ken Parsons,  who lives in La Grande, Oregon. As he explains it:   “Let’s just say, for example, I hire a  college student during the summer months  

To move my irrigation lines. Now I have urban  people telling me I have to pay them $15. Well,   I’m a farmer. I can’t tell whoever buys my wheat,  ‘Gee, I got to raise the price of my wheat guys.’” Other current complaints from partitioners  include how the State of Oregon has handled  

Certain policies: Like COVID-19  relief, Antifa unrest in Portland,   and the new state law decriminalizing  the possession of hard drugs. As Mike McCarter, the president of Move Oregon’s  Border, puts it: “Now you look and you say,   ‘well, if you’re homeless,  if you’re a hard drug user,  

If you’re a rioter, if you’re an illegal,  come to Oregon—we’re a sanctuary state   and you won’t get in trouble.’ And that’s  not the way conservatives feel in Oregon.” Aha! So, really, it is about modern  divisions between political parties.  Well, some people certainly think so.  Cornell Clayton, a public policy professor  

At Washington State University, describes the  Eastern Washington state partition movement   as an echo of national sentiments. He says,  “What it tells us is that in Washington,   much like the rest of the country,  our politics has become polarized.” Has *become* polarized? If state  partition movements reflect polarization,  

Was the nation just as polarized in, say, 1907?  Or 1915? Or 1937? Or 1941? Perhaps our sense that   the political divide in recent times has reached  epic proportions is overblown. Or perhaps state   partition attempts are just the “way of things”  in the Pacific Northwest. As one journalist said,  

“Maybe it’s a lingering frontier mentality—leave  me alone and let me live my life in peace.” Hey, that’s not just a frontier mentality. We  city folk want people to leave us alone, too.   That’s why we don’t make eye  contact with people on the subway.

Well, that’s also because, someday,  the subway rats are gonna come for us,   and then it’s every man for himself.  So let’s meet some of these Northwestern  “state secessionists.” Right after the break. Welcome Back. So let’s meet some of the “state secessionists.”

The current move to create Greater Idaho  is spearheaded by a group called Move   Oregon’s Border, itself headed by a retired  plant nursery worker named Mike McCarter. McCarter says rural people are outraged by  “laws coming out of the Oregon Legislature   that threaten our livelihoods, our industries,  our wallet, our gun rights, and our values.”

He says, “Oregon is a powder keg because counties   that belong in a red-state like  Idaho are ruled by Portlanders.” And would you really want  Portlanders running things? McCarter says, “Divisions in Oregon are getting  dangerous, so we see the relocation of the border  

As a way to keep the peace. It’s not divisive.  Oregon and Idaho are already divided by a state   line. The problem is that the location  of the state line was decided 161 years   ago and is now outdated. Its current location  doesn’t match the cultural divide in Oregon.”

Okay, so he’s saying it’s a peaceful, non-divisive  division to avoid dangerous divisions.  Meanwhile, in Washington  State, there are proposals   every year in the state legislature to  create a new state, the State of Liberty.  One advocate for these proposals, Robert  Brown, says “[Eastern Washintonians  

Are treated] kind of like the red-headed  stepchildren just shoved in the corner.” In California, The State of Jefferson movement  still seeks to create a new state out of 21   Northern California counties. The current head of  the movement is Mark Baird, who states that “it  

Doesn’t matter what we think about anything.  We can’t get representation on any issues.   This is the only way for us to actually  have our votes matter and our voices heard.” As you can see, all of these movements consist  of people who feel that they are being taxed  

While they simply aren’t getting a voice in how  their communities are run, which sounds familiar. You know, I feel like there was a saying  about that in this country around the time of   the American Revolution. I  just had it…nah, it’s gone.

Now you might be thinking, these are all  examples of red counties wanting to leave   majority blue states. Are there blue  counties that want to leave red states? Well, one Illinois representative keeps   introducing a resolution to  make Chicago the 51st state.

Although in that case it’s more like  people in the rest of Illinois trying   to kick Chicago out of the state,  rather than Chicago wanting to leave. I guess they’re tired of  dealing with the Windy City.  I did find one example of a blue  county trying to leave Arizona  

And trying to form Baja Arizona instead. But that   was back in 2011. That may not be the case  anymore, as Arizona slowly turns blue.  And that’s the main reason it’s mostly  red counties trying to leave these states.   Blue counties tend to be more  urban, so they tend to have  

More power in the state government,  thanks to that Supreme Court ruling. So could any of these changes to state  boundaries ever realistically happen?   Well, the United States Constitution does  provide a way for states to change their borders,   but it has to get approval from local communities,  the state legislatures, and the US Congress.

The local communities are generally on board.  State legislatures…not so much. That’s why   the bill to turn Eastern Washington into the State  of Liberty has never made it past a first reading   in committee. And even if that happens, good  luck getting the US Congress to do anything.

But maybe there’s a way around that—according to  the people behind the Divide New York movement.   Under their plan, New York would be divided into   three self-governing autonomous  regions within one state. Those regions are basically New York  City, the suburbs of New York City,  

And…the rest of New York state. But since the  plan doesn’t want to actually split up the state,   it doesn’t have to get approval from Congress.  So what do you think of these  attempts to create new US states?   Should states be split according to political or  cultural differences? Leave your comments below.

And don’t forget, America Uncovered  is supported mainly by viewers,   so please visit Patreon.com/AmericaUncovered. Contribute a dollar or more  per episode. We rely on your   support to help us keep making great episodes. Once again, I’m Chris Chappell.  Thanks for watching America Uncovered.

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