Generation because it deals with um the uh uh the federal government in this vast sensorship Enterprise Co coercing colluding cooling these social media Giants to censor speech and what the judge found at the lower court uh when I filed it when I was attorney general uh
In Missouri what the judge found at the lower court was that this was almost exclusively conservatives being censored it rre a Viewpoint discrimination which is violates the First Amendment and it was orwellian I mean what was uncovered Glenn were tens of thousands of pages of emails and text messages from
High-ranking government officials to social media Giants saying take it down or we’re going to launch an investigation or we’re going to you know we’re going to sue you under antitrust issues I mean really really the full power of the federal government was being used to suppress dissent to
Silence Americans and so that’s been shown in the case and so that now it’s been appealed by uh by the government they want to continue to censor people and the Supreme Court’s going to hear or arguments on that on Monday and how do you think it’s going to go I’m hopeful
I’m hopeful um I just think you know the case is going to a lot of it will come down to what was the government actually doing um and were they in fact coercing right were they using the power of the federal government to get these social
Media Giants to do the things that they can’t legally do themselves what makes this case unique is typically social media companies are sued by people who’ve been deplatformed or their posts been taken down and those go to the Northern District of California and they’re never to be seen again but
What’s unique in our case is that we’ve sued the federal government um itself and the and the actors like Jin Saki and Anthony fouchy I had a chance to take Anthony fouche’s deposition took um Elvis Chan’s deposition who was of course the FBI agent in charge who was
Pre-b punking the hunter Biden laptop story calling it Russian disinformation a hack and leak operation even though they had the laptop already they were pre-b this uh getting ready for 2020 the covid uh uh the uh the efficacy of masks you know they were suppressing that
Speech vac issues origins of Co um where they were shutting anybody down who talked about this coming from the lab in Wuhan and so all that’s uncovered in this in this lawsuit and if it wasn’t for this lawsuit Glenn and then later Elon Musk buying Twitter with the
Twitter files and then later some of the Congressional hearings this stuff would still be in the dark you know it would still be a conspiracy theory but it was happening and what we refer to it in the lawsuit is a vast censorship Enterprise the number of agencies and people involved here is
Breathtaking uh and the you know sometimes willing behavior of social media companies to comply and be platform and censor people but in some instances they actually didn’t want to do it right and they changed their their rules so that that’s why I wanted to what I wanted to ask you about how much
Of this do you think was willing and how much of it was fear of the government um both so um yeah I mean these social media platforms typically were very aligned with the left I think in many instances Facebook for example after 2016 and Donald Trump ones uh they
Made it clear publicly they were never going to let that happen again right they were never going to let that happen again and so I think some of this was um uh overtly political um on their part and they were willing participants but there are I mean we there are documents
That were in cover where they were pushing back that is not you know it didn’t violate their terms of service and as one judge uh said uh in one of the the previous arguments that’s a nice social media company you have there right it’d be a shame if something
Happened to it almost like a mob ball oh yeah that is coming from the government that is so um so so this is again the the the the all the power that the federal government has exerting that on these social media companies to do what they can’t legally do themselves which
Is to censor and so this case is a it’s it’s hard for me as somebody who believes deeply in the right to free speech and what that means for a country and um and uh Freedom this is in my view one of the most important cases of in
General the courts hurt in a very very long time yeah um but certainly as relates to the First Amendment how is important because we’re dealing with the town the virtual Town Square now Glen how is this going to affect the um the new systems that they’re putting in for
Miss and disinformation and the governments um you know work with five eyes uh and with social media and the rest of the media where they are just training them and uh guiding them through Miss and disinformation will this case have anything to do with that because that’s a that’s upon us right
Now absolutely and so that is the intention of this too is to bust that up because there’s agencies like sisa that most people have never heard of right but but was yeah very involved Glenn explain what explain to the audience what sisa is it’s basically the agency that was
Created not that long ago to deal with sort of uh cyber security right okay and what it found itself doing uh in around you know during covid in particular was under the guise of disinformation and misinformation as you clearly articulate that’s a looks that that is a that’s a
Ploy by one of the tyrants to control speech Yes the truth of the matter is you get to say your opinion even if somebody else thinks it’s wrong the government doesn’t get to shut that down the government doesn’t get to tell you what you can say and what you can hear
It’s up to the individual to decipher what they you know how they want to move forward and what they um as they analyze facts and what their decisions are right it was sort of like with the mandates like with mass mandates you know people can make their own decisions they can
Judge if this is a good thing or not for their family same with the vaccine and so all of this was about command and control from these sprawling agencies the other thing that that was exposed in this too Glenn is there were universities um University of Washington at Stanford were involved with helping
You know um sort of determine what the disinformation misinformation was so again they’re Outsourcing this to their sort of web of allies to censor Americans and this case would prevent that this case if if the court rules the right way and I hope that they do it would essentially there would be an
Injunction on all these agencies from engaging in that kind of activity that’d be a huge win now no matter what happens the case of course stands for exposing all of this um but the remedy that hopefully will play out is preventing this um but as we’ve talked about before
I’ve got legislation uh in the Senate that would in Empower individuals to sue individual government actors if they’ve been censored if they’re if their right to you can go Sue yeah it would because it instead of just one AG in a state suing you’d have an you know an army of
Citizens being able to stand up for their first amendment rights you know the the the treasury I think in coopera I’d have to look this up I think it was the World Bank or I don’t know as some world uh organization uh got together
And ran a um kind of a war game with the central banks around the world and uh one of the things that came out of that was we have got to shut down voices and this these this is an exact quote we have to shut down voices that
Disagree in the case of an emergency a financial emergency that disagree with the actions of uh the central banks even if they are correct because they C they could uh further the collapse of the system and I’ve been saying on the air for a while now I I know I’m not going
To agree with the with the the global central banks on whatever it is they’re planning to do I the people who created the problem I don’t want designing a new system or anything else um and that snuffs out freedom of speech quickly quickly it does it does and and I think
What you’re you’re seeing play out in real time is the the the broad diffusion of information which is good that’s good the democratization of how people get information you were on you’re sort of on the on the front lines of all this a long time ago but what they what they
Really fear is that individuals will then you know take different inputs and make up their own minds as opposed to three networks that tell you everything they want you to hear and again I just think that we ought to be unafraid I think um as conservatives to talk about
This is about this is about Freedom this is about Liberty this is about making up your own mind and they know how powerful that idea is they they absolutely so so what’s the game plan you saw it play out in covid which is create a crisis um
Have a whether it’s real or manufactured right yeah and then you consolidate power you fear-monger you other the othering of of those who are dissenting I mean think about go back in time just a little bit they were you know in Australia which we thought was kind of
Like us but with cute animals you they they had camps you know they had camps people were being arrested in parks for not wearing masks I mean we can’t memory hole all this stuff that is a glimpse of the kind of world that some of these
Folks want to live in if you disagree with the regime and we have to fight back with everything we have to make sure that doesn’t happen and and that it would it also depends on us defending somebody else’s right to say something we really disagree with that’s sort of
The Hallmark of it but they want to bulldo all that Glen to have a regime narrative and anybody that stands in the way is othered marginalized called all sorts of names lose their job deplatform I mean that is a re so this whole like lecture we get from Joe Biden on threats
To democracy we have seen the threat we have seen the threat and it is Joe Biden’s Administration with this censorship Enterprise and trying to throw political opponents in jail so so I think people are waking up to this and I think we just got to stand up for it
Good thank you Eric I appreciate it we’ll be watching Monday uh if maybe you’ll come back Monday or Tuesday you could tell us how it how it went uh and uh and dissect the arguments back and forth between the two thank you Eric appreciate it sure thing thanks Senator Eric Schmidt from uh
Missouri