Legally I mean if you think about your duty is not your money yeah it’s not your money right and so I don’t know people you think people know what the what we’re already talking talk about right here people already know what we’re talking total so so so just so people if they didn’t
Watch the debate the other night or whatever I am a believer in accountability okay so this woman is appointed chair of the RNC Republican National Committee in 2017 let’s just do the math it’s not that complicated 2018 loss 2020 loss 2022 no Red Wave 2023 bad trouncing so insanity is expecting a
Different conclusion unless you’re going to make a change this is the person who’s running the Republican National Comm committee so that had happened the night before the debate the 2023 troun sing so I went on stage and say what nobody else every other candidate supposed to delicately tiptoe around the
Gentile Norms of the RNC and it’s not like I surprised her with this okay we actually I didn’t I haven’t talked about this before so we went we we had a we had a debate walk through you kind of go through in the morning of I’m not making
This up it’s it’s like I wish there was no cameras around in there we can catch this she comes in she’s just like trying to give me a hug I’m like I’ll give you a handshake and I was just like how you doing and she’s like she’s like how are
You doing I was like not great I mean the election didn’t go very well last night she not great given last night and I’m not even kidding you here’s what she says what happened last night oh my God God no I’m not I’m not kidding so I
Thought she was joking so I’m just like yeah she was like no seriously what happened last night and then she got kind of combative about it who’s around when this has happened oh like people from NBC other like staffers from the Republican part she want to give you a
Hug you said I’ll give you a handshake yeah yeah I said I’ll give you a handshake have you guys had any Feud prior to this or no no no but I’m just I’m just I believe in well we have not multiple actually because because it’s not personal it’s the failure of how she
Leads this party I mean number one at the start of this race I said release the debate stage criteria so you don’t play games later I believe that played a role and and she was just like no but they actually released it earlier than they did last time around because I
Believe I called on them to so they released it at least earlier so I gave credit where credit was due when they at least responded first she was like no we’re not going to do it we’re we’re staying radio silent but I believe it had an impact on that and I gave credit
Where credit was due so that was that Loop was closed then Fox calls me after the second debate and Chris Christie and say hey do you want to would you spar with Chris Christie or have a dialogue open dialogue since the second debate I mean the unspoken reality is that was
Useless so I said I would do it the night before Ron McDaniel calls me on my cell phone says you will be disqualified from the next debate if you participate in this discussion with Chris Christie I said R how does this Advance the interests of the GOP like like the go
Voter base how is the GOP voter base better off if we hear less debate between the candidates explain that to me she has no good explanation but regardless that raised some of my recent sparring with her in public but this has nothing to do with me and her what
Happened on the night before the debate was the Republican Party nationally got trounced and everybody if destroyed Kentucky totally destroyed Virginia I mean kind of Ohio you just go these are red States okay oh Kentucky and Ohio certainly and so I’m walking in the this is the
Morning after that trouncing this is the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee she’s coming she’s like hey how are you I’m like I’ll give you a handshake she’s like how you doing I said not that well given that last night didn’t go very well she what happened
Last night like obliv is she saying it jokingly or she’s saying it almost angrily right because because I was like last night sending go like she’s she’s challenging me she says well what happened last night oh okay like what happened last night I don’t I know what happened last night tell me what
Happened last night and I’m just like this is the person who’s accountable for running the Republican party I said who lost the election she said we have nothing to do with that really I run the National Party these are State racist we have nothing to do with that so where’s
And and and then and then says and and and then starts to like escalate her voice and says I refuse to fall on the sword for this one I refuse to fall on the sword for this one this is not my fault and it’s like okay clearly she’s been she’s
Been criticized before youit the stage is this happening oh this is like early this in the morning right like prep you kind of go through they show you where you’re going to be standing here’s your microphone so that’s where this happens so it’s not like I surprised her on the
Stage all right she knew where I’m at on this she had already had a long morning with this topic oh of course and should I mean she 2018 loss 2020 loss 2022 no Red Wave 2023 trouncing total drubbing for the Republican party this is the individual who’s the national chairwoman
She runs runs the entire Republican National Committee where’s the accountability so I get on stage and you’re getting some like you know standard you know beaten dead old horse Donald Trump Quest I said forget that let’s talk about what happened last night because the last two elections he’s been out Republicans have gotten
TRS for different reasons so stop blaming the boogeyman there’s an accountability problem within the Republican party and so so I say on stage that Ron McDaniel if she wanted to come up on stage and I meant it if she did want to come up on stage you know
Debate stage time is valuable but I would still yield my time to her if she wants to use the microphone look the American people in the eye and say she resigns which would be good for the Republican party and I believe she should resign so what does she say so
Then the Press reports there’s people apparently sitting in her row or behind her Row in front of her where she is think about this the neutral Arbiter of the Republican National Committee later in the debate when I’m sparring with other candidates booing when I’m speaking clapping against other
Candidates when I when they’re speaking against me so she was booing who was booing she’s booing me at other points in the debate and I don’t care about that but think about your dereliction of Duty you’re supposedly the neutral Arbiter of the entire National Republican party hosting a debate it’s
Like a referee cheering in the middle of a game between two teams it doesn’t make sense like if you’re if the referee is like booing or hollering in favor of one team or the other that’s that’s what that looks like if she’s the Arbiter then she’s saying during the breaks and
This as reported by the Press so I wasn’t there but it’s apparently sources who are around her reported by multiple sources in the Press saying that I would not get another scent from the RNC yep so think about what that means that means she believes that’s her money right she these are donations
She’s collected from other people but somebody said a mean thing about her and it’s not even a mean thing about her someone said that we need accountability in the Republican party that this person who has failed us four times in a row that there needs to be some
Accountability she says if he says that about me then this money that I have been a steward for a fiduciary for that I’m not going to give a sent to him because he said something that I didn’t like about me that’s a conflict of interest so so then I get a question
After the debate in The Press Room I don’t know who it came from but I’m presuming it’s from you know one of the RNC aligned people which is how come you would go on R’s stage on her stage on her stage is what they said on her stage
And criticize her like that my response is that’s not her stage and that’s the problem with this party it doesn’t belong to the corrupt establishment political creatures it belongs to the voters and the people of this country and that’s where the Republican party is badly mixed up
Question for you when so no dinner didn’t go well but I assume you know her last name her maiden name Romney yeah oh yeah I think it uh I think I think she embodies it let let me ask a question when she says you can’t you know go debate
Christie then how is she okay with the santis debating new because it’s corruption man you think that’s what it is absolutely it’s corrup because the people who are propping up Ronda santis like the super pack money all that that’s doing up and this not I’m not
It’s not criticizing Ron or not it has nothing to do with it’s just the system is there’s tens and tens of millions of dollars in a system where supposedly the max you can give to a campaign is 3,300 bucks the people who have lobbied and gotten their special favors from and
It’s not just Ron it’s the way politics works that those people are the big donors to the Republican party and Ron is debating another candidate who’s running for US president that is g Gavin Newsome and a man who’s running for US president flying around doing the funny
Thing about this is Gavin Newsome is not running for US president in the same way that Ronda Sanz was not running for US president jaunting around on public money and private jets on matters that have nothing to do with the state that’s what Gavin new is doing now and as I
Said on the debate stage as well to the Democratic party I call it Republicans Democrats evenly called Democrats more be honest Joe Biden’s not going to be the nominee so who’s it going to be put up whichever other person it’s going to be so we can have an honest debate
But G but Ron is able to have that full-on debate on the same Network FOX but if they’re calling me I think what happened is at a certain point in the race you know around late summer initially they’re saying oh yeah young guy could check the box we got you know
A lot of boxes he checks for us we get to say that that this guy ran in the Republican Party young guy different generation first generation whatever okay we checked that box oh wait he’s he’s not going away when he’s supposed to right the other no-name candidates
And I was initially a no-name candidate too the other no-name candidates had no chance of making the first debate they’re all off nobody really paid attention to them wait this guy’s sticking around and then wait he’s saying some things that the establishment that has an allergic reaction to Trump wait he sounds a
Little bit like that no this isn’t supposed to happen again no stop it okay okay it was cute while it lasted like make it stop that’s sort of where they were and so I think there has been a concerted effort amongst the donor EST establishment class that has convened
Private Summits with the Haley campaign the danis the Scott campaigns Pence and others Christie I’m the only person other than Trump that’s not you know invited to these closed door forums there’s certain debates we want Ronda santis to get his airtime you do it we’re going to disqualify you from the
Next debate and then you get to the place where now if you’re critical of that party she says we’re not going to you that she because she doesn’t like what I said it’s a personal conflict of interest is going to say you don’t get another scent from the RNC so in a
Certain sense they prove my point about the corruption to say that they view this as their money to treat it in a way that they’re going to pick whoever their favorite horses are yeah that’s that’s a that’s very strange for because the voter I’m sitting there saying why is
And I even asked the governor I said why are you debating Nome I think a year ago made sense I think right now makes no sense for the two of you guys to debate but but Rob do you have the clip of R McDaniel being confronted about what
Vivex said and what her response is and she said I’m not the one running for president play this clip if you could there were allegations uh that were thrown on the stage by a number one of the candidates in particular arguing that the Republican party has a culture of policing specifically VI ramaswami
Called for you to resign would you like to respond to that I’m going to focus on beating Joe Biden I I wish that’s what all the candidates did I’m not running for president I’m very proud of the fact that under my tenure we won back the house we now are getting investigations
Into the bidens I also as Michigan chair for the first time in 30 years W state that Democrats hadn’t been in I’m very proud of the fact that we’re going to have staff in 15 states heading into 2024 but you know I’ll leave other people to attack Republicans I’m going
To focus on Democrats I will say this we can’t attack each other and win we need all of us so at this com was really funny I so I I hadn’t seen this interview I saw a different interview she did on Fox or Fox Business where literally that was yesterday morning
She’s going on Air National conservative audience and said and and literally just stated as a fact that VI voted for Obama oh yeah that’s that was that’s right 100 I I just confirm it for you 100% false never voted for Obama in my life so you have the chair of the RNC
Saying I’m not going to criticize the Republicans then go on go on national TV say one of the Republican presidential candidates who you were booing in the middle of the debate oh you have that one it’s 11 seconds you can played a clip oh you you guys already yeah maybe
I saw it after you actually there’s so so that was press reports of people who were sitting in her row commenting on the fact that she said that there’s going to be not one cent to me from the RNC fiduciary violation this money thinks situation this not one cent
How does it actually get divvied up because you’re the only candidate out there that has made their money as an entrepreneur you don’t need their money tell you the truth I have no idea how the hell all of this sausage making works because I’ve basically said screw
The system now I’m that what does that cost me eight figure sums of my wealth that we’re putting into this campaign 15 16 plus million bucks already putting in millions more it’s going to be tens of millions of dollars certainly by the time we’re done we’re going to stop at
Nothing but that’s the cost of saying screw you to a corrupt system that otherwise wants you to behave like their circus monkey which I refuse to but the point is this is a person who’s running the RNC managing other people’s money and saying that because you said
Something I don’t like I’m not going to give you one cent then goes on national TV and spew I it’s just straight up factual falsehood right VI voted for Obama is it false yes it is is it damaging yes it is is it done with malicious intent for the person who was
Booing at me and saying those things yes it was now am I going to go after because I have better things to do in my life probably not right but this is this is corrupt stuff well in the first play this quick because it’s 11 seconds go
Ahead Rob I know V’s kind of newer to the party he voted for Obama so he may not know that look her she just flat out says I voted a lie look at this woman bold face getting up there loses four elections for the Republican Party pathetically going up literally just
Looking the American voters Republican voters in the eye and telling them a boldfaced lie me you just just play that I just want people to h a clip again because I don’t want that that I’m putting words in her mouth I know V’s kind of newer to the party he voted for
Obama so he may not he voted I mean this that is a li woman without a fact without with an iota of Bas is there a way to prove that so she loses yeah actually actually there’s way to prove okay has voting the fact yeah the voting
Record so so actually I was so disillusioned I and I’ve talked about this I voted libertarian when I was young in my first election then I got so disillusioned from politics that it’s actually public record that in both of those I don’t like John McCain and I
Don’t like Barack Obama and I didn’t like Mitt Romney and I didn’t like Barack Obama so I actually didn’t vote in those elections I sat him out I’m not I’m not particularly proud of that I was my 20s I understand why many people are disillusioned from politics I was
Disillusioned back then too I voted for the libertarian candidate back in 2004 and then I basically said screw this this is a this is a I have better things to do with my life I’m going to be an entrepreneur I could care less about politics but then came back around to it
Later but literally that is that is now public record actual false lie yep flat boldfaced lie to the American people say they won’t give money and so that that proves the corruption so that’s the Ron McDaniel corruption but then I decided when I was on stage okay I’m wasting too much time
On this on the stuffed suit of a bureaucrat running the RNC let’s focus on the real problem which is the equivalent the mcdel of of media there’s many of them Christen Welker sitting right there from NBC News and there’s a connection between the two because who
Decides to put up the Christen Welker of the world to moderate a republican debate it’s none other than the RNC the failed establishment that Ron McDale has run that’s lost its last four major Cycles relative to what it was supposed to do so that same it’s almost proof
Sitting on that stage but back to people saw the rest of that so so that’s why I mean it’s it was almost they’re repeatedly proving my Point based on the kind of debate they were hosting and the moderators they hired to the things she’s saying in the audience during the
Debate to booing me during the debate to now saying that false things on who do you think would be a good RNC who would be a good RN any question yeah so I I so let’s brainstorm this Kirk said you would be somebody like you would be very
Good so Kirk said I’m not a I’m not I’m look I’m I’m in this to be the president of the United States I think that I can lead the country best in that position but Charlie said that about me yeah well I’ll return the compliment to him I
Think he could actually do a good job of it R I don’t think it’s crazy actually I mean he’s from a different generation they would not let him do it I mean this that’s almost a credential so whoever they shouldn’t let do it that should be
A requirement for whoever does do it to actually get put in that place I mean hary Dylan very good she ran against Ron McDaniel she’s competent she’s a lawyer she understands and I think the lawyer thing helps because there’s a there’s an element to running the elections in a
Way that’s competitive ative that you make sure it’s actually run fairly for the Republicans to be able to compete so harit Dylan has a good background there’s this guy Scott Pressler who’s I don’t know if he’s he’s a republican activist he’s nowhere on the radar of the Republican National Committee but
He’s a guy I’ve gotten to know talked to him from time to time was tried to be very helpful in some of the other elections that have played out in the last couple of years but a Grassroots activist that has actually focused on the way elections are run so Scott
Presler harmy Dylan I mean these are all good people I mean I I um you I don’t assume Charlie wasn’t serious when he said yes to me but I would I would say the SAR I think I saw somewhere him saying by the way did you have there’s a
Video of you talking to somebody were you talking to her or no at the end of the debate that’s somebody else I I didn’t I to my knowledge I haven’t talked to ra since after the debate there’s a lot of people piling in so if she was in that throng screaming
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