well because the convention hasn’t happened yet it actually would be a straightforward process if if he gets out if he doesn’t get out you would have to have a rebellion unlike any we’ve ever seen where all these convention delegates would get together that’s not going to happen the only thing realistic would be the president saying I don’t want to do it and again I don’t think that’s realistic but that’s the conversation that’s going on right now he might you get these moments in history sometimes it’s the first lady who has to tell her husband the time’s up meaning Harry Truman didn’t run in 1952 what have to be Joe Biden who told Joe let’s step down and let um K Harris be president meaning in real time and then get a new vice president and then open it up in August and see who the nominees will be uh short of that um you’re the Democrats better just get used to this being who Biden is I mean this isn’t the Joe Biden of two years ago he is diminished when you talk to some veteran Democrats they say it’s too late to really think about replacing him however ever others say no it’s not there’s still an offramp there’s a convention there could be a brokered convention but what would have to happen President Biden would have to decide that he is going to step aside that he’s going to effectively unleash his delegates how would that happen couple of things to watch for watch for the poll Savannah if they start to significantly drop that’s when this goes from the opinion pages of the newspapers to potentially real planning and then you’d need highlevel Democrats to get into this conversation I do Wonder Paul as as folks process what we saw last night and absorb it do you think we will see some democratic lawmakers Governors coming forward or is the president going to have his way here and stay in this race I I literally have no idea Chim I really don’t um here’s the risk okay if any of them called me I’d say look the first politician the first Democratic politician to call on Biden to step down it’s going to end their career yep right they may be right in the eyes of a lot of Democrats but if you’re the first one through the door you’re going to get shot sir do you think democrats should consider replacing Joe Biden at the top of the presidential ticket I’ve had several raised the possibility privately in conversations it’s not likely to happen uh again I think as the dust clears on this thing this campaign still got four months to go uh and I think that that Joe Biden’s going to be the nominee and I think Donald Trump’s going to be the nominee and the choice is going to be between a guy that fights for people and tries to lift people up and another guy that wants to rip this country apart and pull it up from its roots can you imagine a scenario where Joe Biden does step down and another Democrat whether it be k a Harris or someone else steps up well uh you know anything is possible as we’ve learned these last few years when we’ve routinely experienced what we thought to be Unthinkable uh there is usually a way uh one of the riskiest things it turns out in hindsight about this debate was Biden’s decision not only to agree to it but to do so so early before the two candidates have even been nominated that is unprecedented in American politics you don’t usually have a debate between presidential nominees before they’re actually nominees this could now become a a problem a vulnerability for Biden or depending on how you look at it the party’s opportunity to take away out it is unprecedented Biden family and political team must gather quickly and have the hardest conversations with the president a conversation of love and Clarity and resolve we can put this up on the screen I think to give America the greatest shot possible of deterring the Trump threat in November the president has to come forward and declare that he will not be running for reelection and is releasing all of his delegates for the Democratic National Convention look I hadn’t seen Tom fredman’s column uh until you read it here’s the bottom line uh Joe Biden had a bad debate night but Donald Trump was a bad president and I think what you saw last night was a pathological liar in Donald Trump uh who lied about his record
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