Mr President thank you for having us thank you tuer at your Camp David which is beautiful um so you were inaugurated two days ago this is a small country and yet your inauguration was international news was everywhere why why do you think that is well it was a sh for for us too I mean we know we knew that a lot of uh people were was were coming and and I mean that will draw some attention of course we have uh we had big delegations from A Lot 110 countries um so of course it that would draw news because you know if a Chancellor comes from a country then he brings his you know his media team and that and that will create some news over there and if a president comes or a king comes that would create some news even you you came so you know that creates some news but uh why were they coming well I don’t know different different reasons of course I I could ask you why did you come right I came because I think something remarkable is happening here that’s why but I’m interested in why you think people came yeah I uh different reasons definitely different different reasons for example the uh the US government sent a a big delegation but then we have we had also a delegation from Congress yes that started as a republican delegation but then the de Democrats jump in the wagon and we have a bip we had a bipartisan delegation from Congress so you know was like uh so it up I I don’t know at the end what happened but I think that it’s like it’s like how a star you know how Stars Are Born they say that you know debris it starts joining up and it and if they be they become an asteroid but if more debris joins up it becomes a planet because the you know the gravitational pull the more thebr comes up it becomes a star because then the gravitational pull is too big so that’s U that’s called critical mass so I don’t know sometimes just you know by by because you know God wants it like that or just by Stroke of Luck or whatever uh you get some critical mass in something you’re doing and then it becomes bigger than what you than the the sum of all of its parts so I don’t know probably got some critical mess that we didn’t we didn’t foresee my guess is that of all the countries in the hemisphere El Salvador seemed in the toughest shape or close to the bottom in the rankings def for everything yes yes lacking abundant natural resources Etc and since the country was born is that true yes I mean the country has been poor since it was born yeah lacking everything basically lacking everything with with a dense population a lot of people packed in yeah um so what do you how did you change it I guess I’ll cut right to it if you can fix El Salvador what are the lessons for the rest of us what did you do first well uh of course uh you cannot do anything if you don’t have peace right and when I say peace I I include war Civil Wars Invasion uh crime I mean you need to have peace you need to be able to move freely to have your your basic uh basic rights respected starting with the with the the right to to live the right to move the right to Pro to have property so you need your basic rights being to to be respected so you need peace that’s the first thing a society will struggle to achieve and once you uh once you achieve peace then you can struggle for the other things like you know uh infrastructure wealth well-being quality of life but you have to start with peace so we we we had to start with peace and in the case of Al sabad we were we’re literally the murder capital of the world yes and we turn it into the safest country in the Western Hemisphere or safer than any other country in the western hemisphere which is you know it was if I if I would have said that 5 years ago they would said that I was crazy right because this was the literally the most dangerous country in the whole world your capital is now safer than our capital in Washington a lot and and and the country is safer than the United States as a whole yes uh the the US M RIS around six murders per 100,000 inhabitants and our murder rate is two so we’re safer than Canada safer than Chile safer than Euro safer than the US safer than any country in the Western Hemisphere there there are countries in the in the other hemisphere that are safer than in Salvador but not in the not in the Western Hemisphere so you did that in just a couple years yes we did that in basically in three years so what just bottom line it for us what’s the formula well I can tell you the official formula and the and the real formula okay so the official formula is that we did a plan I mean we did a plan it’s not that when I say official I’m not mean it’s a lie it’s just you know the the official one we did a a a plan that was comprised of phases so we roll up the first phase then the next one then the next one and then uh gangs started attacking back so we need to we had to roll up everything at once like in a in a hurry so and um and it it worked it worked in a couple of weeks uh we we the country was trans form because the gangs were were not yet arrested but they were in the run so we had we basically uh in the rollup of phase six we basically uh pacified the country in a couple of weeks how do you do that how do you pacify a country well the faces included the building up of the police forces the Army we double the Army we literally double the Army to fight crime to to to to use used the Army to fight crime and uh we equipped them uh before like soldiers we didn’t have like you know like useful guns or you know uh Vehicles drones you know basic things that that um an operation of that magnitude will need so yeah we we we roll up the faces and then and then we we we went after them okay so that’s the official that’s the official yes that’s the official what what’s what’s the real it’s a miracle it’s a miracle yeah I love that what do you mean yeah it’s a miracle you know uh when when gangs started uh to attacking us back basically they they killed uh 87 people in three days which for a country of 6 million people it’s it’s crazy would be the equivalent UH 60 times would be the equivalent of having 5,000 deaths in three day in three 5,000 murders in the US in three days wow yeah so we were were in a meeting and well when when it started not when it ended but when when it started we were in the meeting at my office 3:00 a.m. 4:00 a.m. just watching you know the the what was happening and trying to figure out what to do because the problem with gangs is that um they don’t they don’t only attack their objectives when they want to create Terror they can attack anyone so they can actually kill their Grandma yes and it’s your victim yes because they don’t care about their Grandma you you care about their Grandma so it’s your victim is if they kill their Grandma you have one one death and they have uh you know they achieved the the the terror that they want to create so they can kill any any body a woman walking by a guy in working in the street a taxi driver they can kill anybody and if the if the if the state goes after them the state has no intention of of um killing or harming anybody but the gang members so you have you have 70,000 objectives which were the 70,000 gang members but they have 6 million possibly targets so it was almost an impossible task it’s a gorilla War really yes it is but it was an impossible task because you you have to go after them they were interned with the population they were everywhere and they were killing randomly so how do you stop that so we really tried to figure out what to do and uh and uh I B I basically said well we I mean it’s we we we are are we’re looking at into an impossible impossible mission here so we pray and uh and we and we you prayed in the meeting yes yes of course several times yeah what did you pray for to wisdom to to win the war to have I thought at the time that we would have civilian casualties so we we said we pray that the civilian casualties will be as low as possible and we didn’t have any Civ civilian casualties and was everyone in the meeting comfortable with that yes yes they every all my security cabinet are believers they all believe in God we’re we’re a a secular country of course but we all believe in God so yeah MS13 is one of the major gangs and they are satanic also that was my question so very little no no no but I I hope you will explain it because very little has been written in the west about this there satanicas but but actually literally can you explain well uh they didn’t start as as a satanic organization they they ms3 started in in in Los Angeles in the US because uh Salvadorans weren allowed to sell drugs by the Mexican gangs so they created a gang that was called um the 18th street gang because they basically wanted to sell drugs in in a street that was 18th Street over there but then uh division started to to um create to they started dividing themselves and started infighting so they created the ms3 and uh and then ms3 start started out outgrowing the other gangs and they started you know exporting the organization to other parts of the US and when Bill Clinton decided to uh Deport those guys he didn’t tell our government at the time I’m deporting this criminal they just you know send them here and they came there were few but unchecked at the same time some some laws were passed to protect miners from imprisonment and of course the gangs use that to recruit 15y old 16y old 17 year olds so at the beginning was you know uh some youth C causing harm assaulting you know trying to control their territory selling drugs things that are bad but you know probably not critical but they grew they grew they grew and they started controlling territories a few years a few years later they were actually a huge criminal huge international criminal organization that they have bases in Italy uh Guatemala Honduras Salvador the US basically a lot of major cities in the US will have strongholds of right outside Washington DC yes of course they have in in Long Island and La it’s it’s a it’s a huge criminal International Organization so um so so they grew and they started you know uh killing more people to just to get territory or to fight against rival gangs or to you know collect debts or you know money or whatever but as the organization grew they became satanic they started doing Satanic rituals I don’t know exactly when that it started but it’s was well documented yes and we now arrest we’ even found Alors and and things like that yes I’ve seen them and um and so it’s they became a a satanic organization and even when when you uh sometimes when you interview uh gang members that are in prison they would say I’m out of the gang of course they’re prison but they would say I’m not a member of the gang anymore and when they asked them why I remember one I I remember the news outlet that made it this this but it’s a you know very wellknown news outlet that made this interview with a gang member in person we allowed him to go into prisons and and do the interviews and the guy that they asked him how many people have you killed and he said I don’t remember didn’t remember how many probably 10 20 he didn’t remember and then they asked him and are you in what is your position in the gang he explained how he went up in position but I left the gang I said how why do you left the gang and he said well because uh I was I I was I was used to kill I was used to to kill people um but I killed for territory I killed for to collect uh money I killed for extortion but I came to the you know to this house and they were they were about to kill a baby and he the killer that had killed tens of people said oh wait what are we doing wa why why are we going to kill that baby and they told him because the Beast asked for a baby so we have to give him a baby so he said that he couldn’t resist that so he left the gang he’s in prison because you know he’s a killer but he left the gang because he couldn’t uh tolerate what he was saying so human sacrifice was a part well they in the United States a couple of weeks ago or a couple of days ago I don’t remember exactly I saw the news that they were they were going to kill a young girl or they killed a young girl don’t exactly remember because it was a it was a a Satanic ritual what happened in the US a couple of weeks ago you may have come to the obvious conclusion that the real debate is not between Republican and Democrat or socialist and capitalist right left the real battle is between people who are lying on purpose and people who are trying to tell you the truth it’s between good and evil it’s between honesty and falsehood and we hope we are on the former side that’s why we created this network the Tucker Carlson Network and we invite you to subscribe to it you go to tuckercarlson.com podcast our entire archive is there a lot of behind the-scenes footage of what actually happens in this Barn uh when only an iPhone is running Tucker carlson.com podcast you will not regret it so that’s almost never described no in English language press as clearly as you just described it no which is weird right well you sort of wonder why yeah if there’s a spiritual component that’s driving it why not just say so yes but I guess my point is you saw it as that yes yes of course there’s a spiritual war and there’s a physical War and the physical War could be that’s a that’s the unofficial yes that’s the an official version uh the spiritual if you win the spiritual war it reflect into the physical War so our I think our I I don’t know what I would call it our impressive uh victory was because we won the spiritual war very very fast well that leads me I didn’t because you didn’t have competition I mean they were satanic I think that made it easier in your inaugural and I was listening on headphones for the translations so I just want to check this you said we have achieved this great Victory and made this a safe country and that’s the predicate for everything that follows and the next thing we’re going to do in this term is to is to work on the economy to make it better grow the economy yeah and you said I have a correct me if I’m wrong you said I have a three-point plan and I’m thinking I wonder what that is I don’t know start a Federal Reserve Bank and you said the first the first point of my plan is seek God’s wisdom yes that is what you said yeah I said that yeah why would that be the first point of an economic plan why wouldn’t it be why should be the first part of the plan I think it should be yeah but I can’t and most people would think that right I just I’ve never heard any leader of any country say that because because they’re they probably they forgot to represent the people that elect them that elect them yeah it’s like you ask most of the people that elect the politicians they say yeah that’s that’s fine yeah I believe that but then you ask the politician and he would say no no no that’s not so who who is who is he tried to Pander into I mean doesn’t make sense right do you think it’s a common sense thing to say God’s W wisdom of course yeah it’s a prerequisite for wise decision- making I would say yes exactly so that’s the first part of her plan why it makes me laugh um do you think that that’s one of the reasons that your successes which are just measurable I’m not saying this for ideological reasons just a fact that you’ve transformed the country in a good way and that you’re literally the most popular elected leader in the world again not speculation provable fact you’d think that would be greeted in the hemisphere as this amazing thing like what’s going on in El Salvador and instead there’s been this what’s going on in El Salvador yeah there’s been hostility yes do you think that’s why I’m I’m not sure but one one of the reasons is that we don’t Pander to them so probably they don’t like that it’s it’s probably a reason it’s like um like there’s um I’m not going to go into conspiracy theory I’m going to go into into provable facts right like you said so there’s uh there’s worldwide agendas right this this are provable facts right they they they have benchmarks that they need the countries to follow and they need the countries to do this is you know out there right and but sometimes if you work those things uh you’re probably neglecting the important things for your people the the the things that your people are really asking for give you an example when we arrested the gang members that were killing that were killing so much people that we were the murder capital of the world literally the mo most dangerous place in the whole world more dangerous than Haiti right more dangerous than Iraq this is was literally the most dangerous country in the world world we have triple the the amount of the murder rate that Haiti has right now we the main him that they have we have triple that here so what what do we have to what do you have to do you have to stop that right I mean it’s like it’s a no-brainer I mean you have you don’t have to even you you don’t even need to have a big thought process you just you have to stop that that’s the first thing you have to do when we did when we did that we got huge condemnations you you you name it say organization we got a condemnation from them so and they were and they and a lot of them were human rights organizations and he would ask the human what about the human right of a woman not to be raped I mean what about the human right of kids to you know to to to play or to be free or to you know go to the park and what about the human right to live or the human right to walk in the street right and but no they were they were worried about the human rights of the of the killers which you know they have human rights I don’t say they don’t they’re humans but but if you have to prioritize what would you prioritize right the human rights of the honest hardworking decent people not the not the not the human rights that they do have but you won not you won’t prioritize the the the human rights of the killers and rapists and murderers and um so we we we secure the country and we did it with no help from any other country and with huge huge condemnation in everything that we were doing everything I mean we we changed the Attorney General we got so much condemnation because of we Chang the attorney general that we need to change to prosecute you know the the murderers so we we basically we we they they tried to block every step of what we were doing and uh and now it’s that the results are there that it’s you know they’re tangible measurable um undeniable now they they don’t know what to do because a lot of other countries are saying maybe a lot of other countries similar to ours they have similar problems they are saying maybe we should do that too but they don’t want that because that’s not in their agenda but I I guess that’s why I came here to be totally honest is what your success says about the country that I live in or other countries in the hemisphere or in Europe where people are killed by the thousands every year and what you’ve proven with very little money and no help from anyone else is it’s not that hard to fix therefore all that killing must be a voluntary decision that my government and many other governments are making about their own citizens you can make that that logical well I don’t know what other conclusion to reach if El Salvador can do it what are we what’s going on here yes you can make that logical conclusion I I think that’s probably what they are afraid of because I mean we don’t have uh weapons of mass destruction right no so we why are they afraid why why would they take so much time in and make condemnations to El salvad right it doesn’t make any sense you didn’t send a man to the Moon exactly so I think I think they’re afraid of the example because a lot of people might say hey we want that too if they can do it with no money with very few re resources and we a huge problem because I heard some people say oh somebody could do it because the problem was not that big and like we literally the murder capital of the world how how big can it how bigger can it get right we were literally the most dangerous place in the world three times more dangerous in Haiti right now so I mean what bigger can it how bigger can the problem get and at the same time we had little U very few resources and we were able to do it with no civilian casualties after we started the Warren gangs we had no civilian casualties and we we um we lost eight uh between police officers and soldiers and we basically eradicated all crime so and and we and we and we arrested 70,000 gang members which the number is not the number just came up that’s the official number that all the organizations said we had of Gangman members and and and and you can I mean you can watch World Bank reports Etc they said well saer has around 70,000 gang members at 500,000 collaborators so we spare the collaborators basically and we only got the gang members why because most of the collaborators were just you know family members or you know the woman that sell tortillas and she had to tell oh the police is coming because if not she would she would probably have been killed by the gang so most of the collaborators were not really criminals but just people living in a society was controlled by by gangs the government was really was the real government was the gangs just like in Haiti you have a you have a fake government you have the real government the government Hades The Gangs it was it was like that you had a formal government of course with offices and everything but you have the real government in the territory which were the gangs so I mean and I know you want to stick to the facts but I mean at some point you do have to I mean this is a really important question why would a government that has the means to end violent crime not there’s always going be crime people breaking laws but violent people murdering and raping each other yes is a voluntary decision that a government makes why would a government choose to have that I don’t know I don’t I don’t know I can I can make up theories but I really but you have a gut instinct about it uh I think it’s a combination of factors like everything yes they have they might be evil people that you know that are doing it on purpose of course and probably planning stuff I don’t know yes uh possible yeah possibly at the same time there’s a lot of people that they just being fed this IDE ideologies and they think they’re doing the right thing yes right like allowing allowing shoplifting for example that’s the most stupid thing you can think of but they do it oh you don’t allow shoplifting here no of course not so but you would think how why would anybody think allowing shop lifting would be a good idea I don’t know why why I mean that’s this the stupidest thing to think right or giving away drugs I said this interview or giving away drug let’s give away drugs right it’s like it’s like very stupid things and you would you would guess that some of people doing I mean enacting these policies are not necessarily evil they’re just you know they being fed this ideolog they think they’re doing the right thing it’s like I give you an example uh I think a month ago or something like that yeah like a month uh the Spanish police arrested a gang member that that has FL that had fled El sabad so the gang member escaped he he he flew he flew he went to Spain and with an international operation between the police of of our police and the Spanish police in interpo they were able to arrest the guy so in that in those cases you don’t need you need to do an extradition because it’s it’s an automatic you know International operation so they just got the guy you know process him and send him yes send him to the or original police for did file the claim so the Spanish police was very proud of the of the arrest so they put it up they put it up in Twitter so they said we just arrested this gang member so I I uh you know quoted the tweet and I said great send him we’ll take care of him right so that was used in his court hearing in Spain as a proof that he wouldn’t get a fair trial here so he was protected by Spanish laws and he stayed there in Spain maybe they don’t have enough gang members in Spain exactly so uh I mean I don’t care if they want to keep him it’s a it’s a mouth that we don’t have to feed it’s a mouth that we don’t have to feed right but uh so they can keep him but the thing is that you would think why would why would this Spanish government want a gang an extra gang member yeah yes it’s not necessarily the out of evil it’s just that you know laws the system the the things that are being fed to the to the judge to the prosecutor so they think that you know that my tweet was too mean and you know this gang member his rights would be you know uh not respected or he wouldn’t get a first trial in NOA so he had to stay in Spain to be protected you know I mean they know he’s a they know he’s a killer they actually arrested him because of that it was in international operation and everything they know is you know he probably murdered dozens of people people but they they need they feel the need to protect them so what’s sad about that is that that’s a sign that your defense mechanism no longer works yes and that your Society is dying yes and Spain is a Wonder in my opinion a Wonder W civilization is is is reaching a point into it it’s it will start failing I think that’s obvious to those of us with great sadness to those of us who live here unless things are done of course you can you can you can always you can always do do do so okay two-part question why do you think that’s happening because it is recognizably happening in real time before us and what can be done at this point to reverse it well you know everything everything erods and degrades I mean that’s you know just loss of of nature yes I mean we do that’s why we die we age and we die yes you can slow it right you can you know stay fit diet you eventually going to age and die you cannot you cannot avoid that um same happens with anything infrastructure you know I had a I had an argument with my at the beginning of the government I had an argument with a with my Ministry of Public Works my minister of Public Works because there was a um there was this neighborhood that was built in an area that you you shouldn’t build things so there it was a a mountain almost the the the the the soil was basically flour so it was you know the the mountain was falling and the houses were falling with the with the mountain so to to save the people the ministry of Public Works started building a huge wall you know to to to stop the houses from fallling right so they they were building this huge wall and of course I can I can’t micromanage everything so when I saw the wall being built I called my Minister I said what are you doing I you won’t stop the mountain and I said you should build let’s build houses for for the people somewhere else it’s it would be cheaper and you know he said no no the the the wall will the W will be fine we have you know uh Engineers from you know uh international corporation and everything they will be fine so they finished the wall they enab thing it didn’t follow the where the way for that the way for that plot twist but I was I was still angry because I I thought that it was huge waste of money and and and a lot of risk that if in the future the wall Falls yes it’ll be on us because we built it right of course so I I started pressuring him why do You Build That Wall what do You Build That Wall if the wall falls in the future it be on hour it would be our fault and I thought he grew tired of me as depression he said well everything that is made by humans needs maintenance I mean of course if we just live the wall there falling 10 20 30 years but if we give maintenance to the wall the wall won’t fall right so so that that is talking me not because of the wall itself but because everything is like that yes in a relationship yes that’s right plant at home I mean everything I mean your hair your haircut you you you need if you want to maintain it you need to spend time and resources and effort in maintaining it so Western civil because you know civilization goes like this yes so Western Civilization reached the peak I I cannot point exactly where the peak is it’s like timing the market right yes I’m going to buy in the bottom and I’m going to sell at the top you nobody can do that right and so I don’t know exactly where was the peak but we can all agree that we’re in the decline yes so that is happening because we’re not maintaining we’re not giving the correct M maintenance to the civilization why what made the West the leader in the world at the time we’re living right now what caused that to happen a lot of things like you know um uh importing the scientific process I started you know developing science yes focusing you know putting a lot of money into art into science into trying to build the best things and the you know as fastest and as best and as great as possible and you know importing um wisd wisdom and technology and trying to develop new technology and trying to you know but suddenly uh when you get wealthy happens with families too yes it does then people probably get spoiled or they get you know I want more things I want I want that I want this you have to provide me that and you know politicians the problem I mean democracy is great right we the US has proven that democracy can work um but the problem with democracy because everything has you know pros and cons the problem with democracy is that politicians have a great incentive to offer uh to give away the treasury yes so if I say no I’m going to keep the treasury it’s because we need we might need it you know for an emergency or something nobody would like that people would like oh I’m going to give away the treasury so they would vote for him then another Poli you know what I’m going to give the treasury plus another treasury so we got to go into that right everybody will say great let’s you know let’s let’s receive more money from the treasury and when I say treasury I mean you know anything you know building stuff you know giving free stuff sending checks to people Co relief yeah exactly you know getting you know stimulus whatever so the PO politicians are have the incentives of you know just giving away the treasury and entering huge amounts of debt and that doesn’t not only destroys the the structure of the government but it also destroys the structure of society because if you give for example money uh okay if you don’t work I’ll give you I give you money right or if you uh if you can shoplift $1,000 a day and still get some money from the government for food you know housing why why would you work in that story We shoplifted and probably get in trouble right so the incentives are wrong but it’s not only because you know there’s maybe they are but I’m not going to go into conspiracy theories but it’s not only because they are evil politicians or evil people planning everything which might be the case but I won’t go into that but just because things you know the incentives are wrong yes so even a even a normal not evil politician has the incentive to give away the treasury because he needs the votes I mean he needs to be elected that’s what he needs right he needs the votes it’s the nature of the system yes is the nature of the system so the problem is that democracy Works nobody can say it doesn’t because it worked in the United States right but if you don’t maintain if you don’t give maintenance to the system it will fall like the wall if you don’t give maintenance to it because it would the the same system will degrade itself so what you’re having right now is a huge uh erosion of of Western Civilization so we have governments pandering to to their basis what you know to their ideology because they mobilize the vote or whatever seek looking at what would happen in in the election what we can do to get more votes in the election uh I don’t want to get into US politics because you know it’s not my but okay so we had this we have this huge voter um group uh let’s give them something to together their vote let’s give them I don’t know $100,000 each makes sense right to get their votes but it doesn’t make sense for a country I mean why would you give $100,000 to each member of a voting group right should be illegal but it’s not because who makes loss right it’s the government so the the system is eroding and uh and if maintenance if the maintenance team doesn’t go in and fix all the things that have been you know degrading the last you know 50 70 years U it will of course it will eventually fall so if the West doesn’t continue to maintain its systems which you have said I think correctly have worked really well for a couple hundred years exactly they will degrade just like anything else made by human hands if you don’t maintain it it will fall like your house the the question is does anyone in the west to its leaders have the will to fix the system that is clearly failing do you think that will happen and if it doesn’t what is the message about democracy to the rest of the world well you know you know the the the fun thing about about anything about any concept like democracy that it works until it doesn’t right right that’s right it happened with monarchies it happened with you know anything right uh they say things like oh you know we have to separate religion from State it worked it really worked but it also work religion with the state at their time yes so very well yes very well until they didn’t so so the the thing is that things work until they don’t right so the problem is not democracy I mean it’s not the concept of democracy the concept of democracy is great I mean imagine how the power of the people why why would the people have the power to to decide their own thing is like the most I mean I really like the concept and and it’s not not a theoretical concept like communism right it works I mean democracy has been improving to work George Washington could have been a king if he wanted to he could been King George the first right yes but he decided Well not he but you know the founding fathers decided that the US United States will be a democracy right and it worked nobody can say it didn’t it worked but but so the fact that democracy appears to not be working I don’t think it’s because the concept doesn’t work like church separated from a state or a church conjoined with a state yes it’s just that things work until they don’t so the problem I think is not the concept of democracy itself but the the state of the Democracy of democracies in the world right now have we reached the end of the democratic per I don’t know but it it it’s maybe the beginning of the end is if not if if a huge maintenance team doesn’t come and fix things it’s like I this is not about geopolitics or anything I’m not going to even mention the countries but I saw somebody showed me the 600 meter uh Railway that was built in California and it cost like I know $15 billion dollar something like that to build the 600 meter piece of Railway that they were that they were building it’s a lot per meter yes so I mean you have you cannot go on I mean it’s like obvious it’s like somebody eats too much right I mean you can be a little fat right it’s fine but then if someone’s morbidly fat it’s a somebody will come and say okay I mean you have to stop right because you know your heart would your heart can take it anymore right you have to stop or somebody the drinks I don’t drink but if somebody somebody drinks doctor might say you know your liver your Li can’t take that anymore look at look at your liver how how it is right now uh or the lungs for smoke or whatever you um when you see things like that 6 600 meter of Railway $5 billion do 10 years there’s there’s no other possible diagnosis I mean you have to stop that past now because if not it’s I mean the the decline is inevitable it’s inevitable mean there it’s not like you know I’m I’m telling you I forc no no I mean I mean it’s there I mean it’s $15 billion to make 600 meter piece of railw is not even working in 10 years the empire state was built in a year one year they built Empire State that’s were that things were working right I I don’t know how were things back then I don’t know but they built Empire State in one year what happened with the World Trade Center Freedom Tower they was changed the name that later to World T Center how long did it take forever yeah and it was you know the whole country United to build it there was no budgetary I mean I know it was private but it was no if it needed budgetary uh it was not a problem of budget or investors willing to pour money on it or Engineers I mean why would it take over a decade to build something that was so significant for the whole country I mean you could build the tallest building in the world you didn’t you could have build the tallest building in the world and said okay we’re coming back bigger and stronger we’re going to build you know you you yeah we got a hit but now we’re going to build back better and strong build back better and stronger right or whatever and build it you know two mile high skyscraper I’m not I’m not a fan of no two mile high skyscrapers but you know you could you could have done that I mean have you have the money you have the resources you have the engineers you have the the market because if I built a you know my skyscraper I I I can fill with offices because I don’t have enough market to fill with residences and offices or whatever you do have the market in New York to you know to build offices and you want hotel rooms I mean it would feel like this but you didn’t you took over a decade to build a a very unimpressive building so and that was 203 years ago yes now you’re building 600 meter Railways with1 15 billion do so how long it would take to build to rebuild the Baltimore bridge should take a year how long would it take here here yeah a year two years and we’re small small poor country I mean we’re the one of the poorest nations in in in the in the world right no that’s that’s why this is so shameful and interesting yeah I mean they the US has so they have still unlimited amounts of resources because you can just bring money right that’s another topic but you can just bring whatever how much it’s it’s worth I mean you want to do it but want to build it made of gold I mean you can do anything right you just how much is it do it so that sounds like a systemic failure it doesn’t sound like it’s a systemic failure yeah so I what you’re describing maybe can’t be you know maybe that’s something that you like have to level and rebuild or something maybe that’s beyond maintenance I don’t know what is the answer to that I don’t know but uh well you need leadership but I I I’ll tell you something if you see the mess that we were leaving here yes it’s a bigger mess that what you have over there yeah so oh yeah I mean so well just the fact that a a third of our population fled the country I know I went to the United States I know uh gives you an example that the mess we were living here and that we still have in other areas that you know not safety we’re the safest country in the Western Hemisphere but we have problems in other areas like the economy for example yeah um so but but our our problems were bigger than your problems in relative sizes so you said so you can if you can I mean if you can fix a mess like this with in the US Within limited amount of wealth with you know um scientists Innovation like no other country in there world still The Innovation coming from the US is more than any other country still right even not because of the government but you know it still it has the best innovators AI for sure I mean anything so you still have the best innovators you still have the biggest companies you still have the biggest the World Reserve currency uh the biggest wealth the biggest GDP [Music] um the the the availability to hire Talent from anywhere you can bring whatever Talent you you need to fix any gaps you can you know pick pick any you get it you you get what you you what you want you still can get what you want you can’t get attacked because you’re you’re too far away you’re too far away from anyone that wants to attack you because Mexico or Canada are not going to attack the US so your enemies are too far away and you still have the biggest army um bigest Armed Forces so biggest energy reserves in the world yes and yeah and and and the US like like Russia they were built as superpowers so it’s not like uh for example if you see the economy the economy in Spain it’s very good it’s a robust economy is Big G7 yeah but they are like uh uh how do you call how you say in English to run nugget they sell nugget right yeah or they sell iberic ham yeah so it’s very good expensive but you don’t actually need that right so luxury goods luxury goods so if you sanction Spain you will you’ll break their economy but if you sanction Russia you can’t break Russia because they are built as a superpower yes so they have wheat they have energy they have natural gas oil yes because they were built like that industrial capacity industrial capacity factories you know workers so the US is is like that too it was built as a superpower so you have wheat you have corn you have workers you have blue color workers you have trained skilled Factory workers you have uh colleges you have universities you have school system you have infrastructure you have uh cities tourism the Mississippi River I mean you have everything you have ships you have warehouses you know uh agriculture fertile lands you what you didn’t have before you you you you got right you took from you know Mexico or whatever so the US was was built to be a superpower right acquire land acquire fertile lands acquire I mean Texas was part of Mexico but but it’s part of the us and you have all the oil there so I mean and then you have California and you have I mean the US is built as a superpower so the US has everything to go on for a thousand years it’s not like it’s doomed to fail but apparently the leaders or most of them you have probably very good leaders but most of the leaders they don’t they’re not seeing they they either they they are evil or this is not you know conspiracy theory it’s just you know the options you have either they’re evil and they want to destroy the us because of some evil reason or they’re puppets and they are being handled by people that need the US to be destroyed but for some reason or they incompetent and they just you know doing wrong stuff because they’re not capable of doing the right stuff or sorry I said three but um the incentives right I mean changing a country and changing a lot of things that are badly done probably anger will anger some people right some groups some some lobbies some interests I mean if you say okay we’re going to stop the railway that’s costing us $1 15 billion dollar per 600 meter a lot of companies will be angry a lot of you know I don’t know Mayors you have a system that that that needs to be needs to be handled so and that needs leadership and it needs a clear a clear mandate that is probably a little hard to get in the US because of you know the opposite views and you know the bipartisanship and but but you need to do it well you know ultimately as you well know since you’ve succeeded in it so so thumping the instrument for all of that is the ballot is the election itself like how many votes do you get that’s your mandate mhm but I think there is a sense among a lot of non-c conspiracy-minded Voters in the United States that that part of the system is itself corrupt yes and that it is actually hard to affect change through voting because it’s is it it’s rigged and so with that in mind do you think Trump he’s ahead in the polls do you think he can get elected well yes yes he can get elected yeah I’ll give you an example um we in 2019 the system was totally rigged I mean they cancel our our party I mean we we we were running with a party and they cancel it I mean they an know our party so I stayed I was partless so I we went to a small party and said you don’t have any candidates you’re very small do you you you do you want to win the election so we we got the the the that party registration and they canceled that party yeah and they canceled that party in the last day day that you can uh file the candidacies so we got a a mediumsized party at 11 11:00 p.m. and we we were able to file our candidacy so it was not like it was easy or the system wasn’t R it was just so fair that we just you know we put up our our proposals and the people just voted it was very hard to win and then when we won we since we didn’t have simultaneous parliamentary elections we actually went to the executive branch totally opposed to the to the legislative branch and the and the judicial branch so they control the Supreme Court and they control 90% of the legislative body so I had to veto everything and they override my beos and they enact they approved over 70 laws that I veto yes and everything that we do Supreme Court is unconstitutional unconstitutional unconstitutional yeah so we went to the people and said we know we cannot work like this we need a majority in in Congress we need a huge majority in Congress because we don’t only need to approve laws we need to keep get out all these people out and the only way to get it out democratically and respecting the rules of the system is that we get a huge immense majority in Congress right because Congress can fire anybody I mean the president yes so people gave us the huge majority it was hard because they controlled they still control the Electoral tribunal as of today that’s why our election was recognized by all the countries in the world because they know the Electoral tribunal is controlled by the opposition still it’s the only thing that’s controll it’s the only thing and we have we have we have Li that so you know that that validates and legitimizes everything else so they but the thing is that in 2021 when we went to when we went to uh Congressional elections we carried a super majority that they say they they said it was impossible because the system was designed so you cannot get a super majority but we got we got it we got more than that and then we with that super majority there’s an article the the Constitution that allows the super majority in Congress to fire the Supreme Court Justices so our party fire the Supreme Court Justices when they got the they got the majority they fire the attorney general which I couldn’t I mean the states the President appoints the Attorney General here is Congress Congress elects attorney general Congress fires the Attorney General but you need two-thirds of Congress to fire an attorney general so we got 75% of Congress but you stay within the rules the whole time we we we have never not respected a single rule that’s that’s also narrative that they want to prod they they they cannot point out a single thing that was done by not respecting the the rules that were written by them because the rules are written by people they it’s not like oh this rules were you know uh um this rules are not given by God these rules were written by people but still we respected all the rules that were written by them and uh and yeah we we got to the the I I I just I just saw an interview that the president of Costa Rica gave in Costa Rica because he came also like many other world leaders he came to the to the ination so they asked him over there in Costa Rica and they said but don’t you think that is like doing things that are uh not uh within the Constitutional limits that that that he has and this this this interview was today earlier when president of Costa Rica said well in a in a in a soccer game or in a football game you have the rules and you have the score right and the rules are made so the score you know will be like that but sometimes you get a super score in one side right so are you angry at the rules or are you angry at the score because the president of El Salvador the only thing he can be um criticized for is to getting a huge score in his favor with the rules of the game that they lay out lay out for him so yeah but it was enormously disruptive to the people who ran the country before you of course obviously obviously yeah did you ever worry they would try and put you in jail well they did even even when I was President I mean I mean even already in uh being already in in the in the presidency they they they tried to to impeach me they they say I wasn’t there’s an article in the Constitution that says Congress can actually fire the president if he’s not fit to leave to to to lead so they say that I I wasn’t fit to lead and and they were they they they they Tred to impeach me because of that but there was such a um I mean the people were like they were they they fear that the people would like you know so what advice rise up against them or something it’s a fair concern given your majority exactly um what advice would you give to another former democratically elected leader seeking office who is facing jail time uh anyone just if there was I mean I mean if if there was uh a way to stop the candidacy then he’s he’s probably in trouble but if there no there’s no way to stop him from competing in the election all the things that they do to him will just give him more votes right that seems to be happening yes I mean either you stop the candidacy or you you let him be but just you know hitting him with you just getting him you making the the greatest campaign ever I mean do you think they know that some of them they they yeah they they I think they some of them do but of course the the the ones that don’t or they think they’re you there the that’s the problem with endogamous groups right because they all you know yeah we’re so great yeah let’s do it and you know they’re they’re making a huge mistake huge huge mistake you would choose M if if you’re a country like El Salvador really any other country in the hemisphere including Canada your eyes are on the United States cuz it’s the dominant power yes obviously um but it puts you in a weird position if you’re being criticized from the United States so there’s a congressman from Massachusetts a pro communist Congressman called Jim McGovern literally Pro communist not an attack just an observation who attacked you the other day for daring to move a painting of Oscar Romero was a Catholic priest who was murdered here more than 40 years ago in your airport I think yeah what did you make of that it seemed like a pretty minute criticism pretty small and we actually moved it to a nicer place in front it’s not like you know we moved it from a very nice place and we put it in some Warehouse you know or whatever some place that nobody what if you did it’s your country no of course of course but but you can make the case as an art conure that he didn’t like you know the the the the place we put the painting but but the fact that he that he protested and or he expressed his concern his deep concerned um on Twitter and not you know call if he would have called here and said hey do you move the painting they would thought no no it’s right here Mr Congressman uh so of course he can even he can even come and and see it from himself but of course he was doing an attack right so but he backfired because uh first the the painting was right in front so yeah just to move the camera it was in the other side um so it’s it was you know he he misfired but also the fact that a US congressman is trying to micromanage where art is being displaced is being displayed in another country uh just you know gives you an example of how out of touch they are like colonialism to me a little bit yes yes and and and and it comes from the from the de Democratic party which you would guess when the anti-colonial party yes yeah but you know at the at the end is like you know sometimes sometimes the guy that’s called racist is B is not really the racist right or the guy that is called you know the you know colonialist is not really the colonialist right sometimes it’s it’s weird how narratives work sometimes are you getting a lot of Americans moving here yes yes I mean probably in numbers it it won’t be significant to you but yes we you can see it I mean you can you can see it everywhere and we’re also getting something that’s that’s very meaningful to us is that we’re getting a lot of our diaspora a lot of our immigrant the the people that immigrate alaer because of the war or because of the gangs or because of the economical um issues that that have always happened here a lot of them are coming back and there’s a study made that the iom and USA ID sorry I’ll send you the link yes there’s a study made by theom and the usaid that says that 6 62% of salvadorians living in the United States want to come back to live here amazing 62% and 18% are already making plans to come that’s over half a million Salvadorans coming back so that’s super significant because I mean we expelled we expelled them from their their homes right because of crime because of a war because of lack of opportunities and the fact that they’re coming back is I mean is the is the is the biggest proof that we’re doing things the right way we have a long way to go but we’re doing things the right way so after um so we have a lot of Americans American Born Americans coming but we have also a lot of Salvadorian Americans with American citizenships coming here do you have the space well it has created a housing bubble because you know we we we don’t don’t produce as much houses are being bought are being bought right now but that would create a a temporary problem which is the housing bubble but then which is not actually bubble it’s just you know the offer and yes finding its own level yeah so now of course construction companies know that they the amount of houses they will build it will they they will they will they will sell them so construction has become 20% of our GDP and it’s growing so this going to be a huge construction boom and they have the client so it’s not built in a bubble or speculation but it it feels like a bubble but it’s built in you know people coming back home has any other head of state called you for advice on how to improve this country yes yes yes yeah yeah several some of them have said in public of course and they have we have a meetings mostly security issues uh we we’re we’re talking with a lot of Latin American leaders they have come they have sent their security ministers to meet here with our security ministers they have uh sent people to see our jail jail system because sometimes people see our jail system and they try to compare to the the United States jail system and say oh look the mean they don’t have gyms then don’t have Netflix you know but but you shouldn’t compare a sa’s jail system with the US jail system you should compare aab jail system with Latin American jail systems so if you go and see most of Latin American countries the jails are run by the by the by the gang as they were here I remember that yes they were on they had they had parties prostitutes stri strippers it was autonomous here I mean you had to get their permission to go in yes you have to get the permission to go in they only have permission to get in food medicine but they control the they control the jails not only in the Sal they do it in most of the Latin American countries so gangsters or Nar narcos they will control the jails right it’s their their operation they even go out and B and get back yes so they we totally control that and we have 100% control in our jail system so that in American countries look to our uh jail system and to see if they can they can fix their their own so we we we do a lot of cooperation in security issues uh jail jails uh Army um training do you know even more powerful in bigger countries of course in that have you ever you know a lot of heads of state cuz you are one have you ever met a head of state who when faced with a a serious problem a threat to his own country would in the middle of a cabinet meeting pause and say a prayer I I don’t I don’t recall but yeah probably do you know anyone who would do that do you think yes probably probably I don’t I don’t recall right now but that’s just so far from the mindset of any leader I’ve ever interviewed anyone who would admit I’m not sure what to do let’s ask God I yeah probably probably not that common but yeah I would guess some some some leaders do how long do you plan to stay president yeah 5 years five years that’s that’s as much as the Constitution allows me to thank you for talking to us thank you T free speech is bigger than any one person or any one organization societies are defined by what they will not permit what we’re watching is the total inversion of virtue thanks for watching our YouTube channel we hope you’ll subscribe to it and by the way you can hit the little Bell on there and get notifications every time we produce a video we hope you’ll do that also
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