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they didn’t care about the middle class and they kept telling them you’re you’re mistaken the border is secure Mr Mayor said inflation is moderate Cala Harris said Biden omix is working people abro abroad have never been more impressed with the unit it was all a lie and the people finally just waited and did their time and they said we can’t take this anymore we’re going to send a message no matter what you’ve said and now we’re facing a situation where the the left is openly say well we may have lost the election but maybe Fanny Willis or latita James or Alvin Bragg or Jack Smith can put him in jail this will not be a majority like 2017 when he came in and there were sizable numbers of never trumpers among the Republican ranks McCain being one of them but there is no John McCain there is no Bob Corker there is no Jeff Flake in the Senate there is no Adam kinger type there is no Liz Cheney in the house the people people who are in the majority now are strong supporters to the person of Donald [Music] Trump Victor thank you so much for giving us your time at this very important moment in human history one of Australia’s top journalists Paul Kelly has just said this about the American election the wide SES of Middle America knew Trump wasn’t any saint but they turned the electoral map red because they endorsed his Bedrock positions that living standards were in Retreat inflation was too high borders were not secure and Elites were too arrogant that a fair assessment I think it’s a very fair it’s a very accurate assessment I think they also saw that the occasional crudity of Donald Trump was almost a mechanism in their desperation that was necessary to get the attention of the Elites in other words they wanted somebody who wouldn’t equivocate and didn’t come from that Meo and so they were really saying your agenda has no support and yet you’re ramming it down our throats and you won’t listen to us and you make fun of us you call us garbage deplorables irredeemables clingers Chumps drags these are all um prives that Biden and uh Obama and the clintons have used and you and you forced us to do this but we have now a champion and he’s going to cut through all of this and remind you that we run the country and not Hollywood or the institutions or Academia Silicon Valley and so they were in a complete bubble about what this earthquake was was about to hit them or this storm uh everybody could see it I think some of them saw it but the media felt in the last 72 hours maybe or four days if they rigged a poll in Iowa or they said that it was dead even or that the Senate was going to be held by the Democrats uh that would either get people to the polls or it would raise money or create momentum but John there were so many indicators that uh would prove what Mr Kelly said that the registrations were an all-time high uh for Republicans they had gained 600,000 registrations since the last time they contested Pennsylvania in 2020 they had been completely dumbfounded in 2020 on non-election day balling and yet they had more people uh non-election day ballot they mastered the art of early and mail and balloting than the Democrats did they got almost uh 25% of black uh males that really and then that wasn’t really the key statistic black males who did not vote for Donald Trump stayed home and so these big centers that they count on to swarm rural areas in Detroit Pittsburgh Philadelphia at were not there in sufficient numbers they said there was a female Gap and that Donald Trump was a sexist and he had alienated women he got in many states he got more suburb bban white women than he did than did Harris the Hispanic vote and we talked about that I had never seen a and I I live in a Mexican-American Community overwhelmingly so but I had not talked to a Mexican-American uh over the age of 40 male male who was going to vote for CA Harris and that had not been true in 2016 they even had the Amish going out they worked the American Muslim vote they they split the Jewish vote which usually is 7030 all of that was known to the pollsters into the media and yet they kept telling us that Donald Trump uh was dumbfounded by Saturday Night Live that Donald Trump had threatened to kill uh Liz Cheney that Donald Trump uh wanted to kill the media and they didn’t they didn’t everybody got sick of them they didn’t like to be lectured to and they knew what was going to happen everybody that knew from the middle classes thought Donald Trump was going to win and I I could feel it BCT to the reality is is it looks to be the case from here all the money all the celebrities all the so-called influences most of the media were absolutely one-sided and painting Trump as a threat to democracy this is surely actually in the end a win for democracy because people saw through it all they’re not the m hugs that the elites take them to be no they as you say they had Academia Hollywood entertainment the celebrities the money Wall Street the foundations uh all they lacked was them was the people because their agenda they had lied to the American people they had said Donald Trump was a disruptor a dis uniter and we under old Joe Biden from Scranton in 20 will unite the country under moderation and that was a complete lie they used him as a vessel an empty vessel for an Obama extreme agenda of open borders with no health or background checks 12 million illegal aliens uninhabitable downtown uh of our major cities they were overridden with crime uh an attack on fossil fuels nuclear power a disastrous foreign policy that you could Define it by the Afghanistan debacle or the two Wars in Ukraine and the Middle East or the Chinese balloon or China threat to Taiwan in addition to that the at a time when the supply chains were still stagnant consumer demand was uh ascending at astronomical levels after the co lockdown they printed money and so they put fake dollars in the hands of consumers when they could didn’t get goods and the result was 9% inflation and hyperinflation 30% in total of Staples and food Insurance rent so they didn’t care about the middle class and they kept telling them you’re you’re mistaken the border is secure Mr mayorca said inflation is moderate Camala Harris said Biden omix is working people abro abroad have never been more impressed with the unit it was all a lie and the people finally just waited and bid their time and they said we can’t take this anymore we’re going to send a message about what you’ve said but I don’t think over there you wouldn’t get a sense of the unreality where you would talk to people and they really really did believe they were going to turn on their TV sets because the New York Times Sienna poll or Nate silver said that the Washington Post poll had been rehabilitated or the quinac pole they showed it was Devon even or Harris was ahead in the popular vote or Pennsylvania was a sure thing or Ted Cruz was only two points ahead or Iowa was three point and it was all completely bogus there was no factual basis no data for any of it it was just a mechanism of massaging the outcome did you see yourself or imagine such a decisive Victory did I imagine the victory such a decisive Victory yes yeah I I I thought body had a good chance of winning the popular vote uh just because if you have a republican candidate and the way it works here as you know they lose the urban areas and the minority votes and they count on the rural areas and under the Obama massaging those urban areas had reached such a you know in when Obama ran in 2012 against Romney for re-election won one Precinct in Philadelphia very dubiously so 30,000 to One how can you ever make that out when you hear that Donald Trump was going to get half of the Latino Vote or he was going to get 25% of the black Vote or you were he was going to get Union people or the United Auto Workers or the teamsters that hasn’t happened here and this was a man that they said was racist and polarizing and hateful but and then when you saw that Suburban white women were going over him at the time they we were told all they care about is abortion on demand yeah you you can see that he he had made inroads and you had to superimpose that fact on the on the reality that unlike a Bob Dole or Mitt Romney or John McCain he had a fanatical base in Rural and small town America and I mean fanatical is defined by they would do anything to vote for him if there’s a hurricane in rural North Carolina they didn’t matter they were going to get out and win in that state nobody had ever seen such loyalty by these irredeemables these were the people of East Palestine Ohio that the administration completely ignored when they had a toxic fume these were the people uh that were in the hurricane damage that they were very tardy in helping and so it’s a I think it’s a very good lesson because it’s it’s democracy and representative democracy in its best form you know what is another irony we were told John that with the national voters compact that the blue States had were only 61 votes short of getting rid of the Electoral College which has a lot of constitutional Protections in it and has a long history of of utility for both sides and these state legislators had voted to go around the amendment process which they could never do you need two-thirds of Congress 34s of the state and just have the states adhere to the National vote and reject the state vote because they were sure they were going to win the national vote and they had won the national every National vote since 2004 for 20 years and they hadn’t they uh a republican hadn’t gotten 51% of the majority vote since 1988 and guess what Donald Trump was the first person in 20 years on the Republican side to win the popular vote he will probably be the first Republican since 1988 to win 51% of the popular vote and all the states that swore and passed legislation they would unconstitutionally reflect the national vote they’re not doing it California is pledging all of its electors to Harris who won the state as should as they should so the more that the aftermath is really making the left look pretty bad he moved Trump moved quite quickly uh in his acceptance speech victory speech whatever you might choose to call it to uh say that he would seek to heal America given that he may in fact have secured that first majority vote for so long and so forth is he in a position to do so America looks so bipoc so at war with itself I mean the constant calling on him as a fascist I have to say he is people apparently don’t know what the word means no you must remember that after 2016 after they were he and Hillary she was calling him a Russian agent and he was calling her uh crooked Hillary everybody thought that given she had destroyed 30,000 emails and the devices upon them and they were under subpoena that he would have the doj go after and what did he say the first thing he said she suffered enough people went to him and said you’ve got to fire James Comey the director of the FBI Sab he tried to sabotage I’m not going to do that he never did any that but how can he heal the country when latita James a prosecutor in New York who tried to bankrupt him has said that she’s going to press down how can you do when Alvin brag at the end of the month is going to try to put him in jail and Jack Smith has re-indicted him a federal prosecutor for all of these were minor matters that no other prosecutor would have picked up they’ve never done it against an ex-president and now we’re facing a situation where the the left is openly saying well we may have lost the election but maybe Fanny Willis or latita James or Alvin Bragg or Jack Smith can put him in jail and that would cause a constitutional crisis he’s been two people tried to shoot him people are very afraid of his health in the next 90 days until he takes power uh everybody had heard a new camela Harris that had rejected 30 years of her radical very radical socialist agendas to be palatable but everybody now is so cynical they know that when she has 90 days left on her vice presidential tenure she’ll just revert back to what she was before the campaign so I it’s going to the hostility is coming from the left and uh it’s always been that way in this cycle of politics that we’ve seen they there’s something about Donald Trump that uh and you see it in your country you see it in Europe among wealthy Elites educated Elites they feel that he he should not represent them even though he has constitutionally won that privilege of represent him they still don’t want him to be represented by him it’s a very patronizing attitude towards yeah it is uh democracy and and and the people’s uh real right to choose their leader I have to say so I would have thought it would call for a little bit of humility but I suppose that’s wishful thinking a little bit of humility that might say well we’re out of step with what the American people want how do we go back and engage in some genuine reflection no I wish you were right meet those people and understand their concerns will that that won’t happen I take it no if you look at the news shows today and I stayed up last night and watched a lot of the left-wing cable shows I thought they would say it’s time to do what the Republicans did after they lost to Barack Obama and that was people said to themselves we’re never going to win an election with aitt Romney or John McCaine we need to broaden the party and that’s that’s what brought in Donald Trump but they’re not talking about that they’re not saying that the Border or the economic plan or the third sex the trans sex the uh transgendered Mania none of that is polarizing they think so what are they talking about instead uh we’re GNA blame Joe Biden we didn’t get rid of him quick enough or we uh she only had a 100 days to campaign or she nobody imagine how cruel Don Donald Trump was or uh Fox News didn’t tell the truth Fox News on a good night has 4 million and the left-wing Network and cables have 25 million viewers so they’re they’re in la la land and I don’t think they’re going to get the message if they lose the Senate at some of the levels they’re talking about we have two tight races one in uh Penn and one in Nevada but they could very easily be 55 45 disadvantage in the Senate and the house looks like it will remain Republican with maybe two or two pickups and the thing I think your viewers should appreciate is this will not be a majority like 2017 when he came in and there were sizable numbers of never trumpers among the Republican ranks that were more hostile to Trump being one of them but there is no John McCain there is no Bob Corker there is no Jeff Flake in the Senate there is no Adam kinger type there is no Liz Cheney in the house the people who are in the majority now are strong supporters to the person of Donald Trump and if they if these Trends hold for the next day or two we have this embarrassing delayed count in some states he will be able to have U initiatives that no one has really had in a quarter century and there’s things that he’s been talking about informally and to people that they look back at Ronald Reagan and they say he was the best conservative president but he brought in the right people and the right plans but he didn’t he didn’t institutionalize those and while they respect the Constitution and and Trump will not do something like the left would do get rid of the filibuster or the Electoral College he will do things that are constitutionally uh substantive like break up the administrative State like put the FBI for example in Kansas City and not in Washington or maybe look at one cabinet the Department of Education to just abolish it and so there are they are talking about things we have not heard said before that they feel that would make lasting change and stop these pathologies he’ll be aided surely by the fact that arguments about uh election fraud are pretty much bettered down now I’d be interested in two things do you see any evidence of of election fraud but be presumably the result of so emphatic that it won’t wash anyway uh and he has now an authority that won’t be crippled by people questioning the process as to be fair he himself did last time around well last time Donald Trump did had no idea what the left was doing under the the pretext of Co when they went in March and April of 2020 used teams of highly paid lawyers and changed the voting laws in nine or 10 states to the effect of which was 70% the electorate would not for the first time in history vote on Election Day they would not have identification the the right had no idea what they were doing these ballots came in at Double their number and the rejection rate was 11 10th and so that was the basis for the claims of fraud that the ballots were not matching the regist list or they were not fully uh filled out so rather than go down that losing route of complaining about fraud what happened was the Republicans mastered that Democratic art so when you started to look at mailin uh an election day balloting in many in Most states the Republicans not only mastered the art of getting people to mail in the ballots but they refined it in the way that the Democrats had not fully appreciated and that is they scan people who had hardly voted at all but were conservative they that term that’s been used low propensity voters then they went out for them they just they just ignored other people but they went after the people who never vote and they got them registered 600,000 more in Pennsylvania alone a state they had lost last time by only 80,000 votes and they got them to mail then they got the high propensity voters and said you can go out they knew they would vote on Election Day so the left was saying well in our experience you got to be careful because if you get a an early ballot that just it’s not an increase they just don’t show up but in this case the early ballot got people uh that were entirely different cohort and they voted for the first time in their lives for Donald Trump and then the Donald Trump voter who had two prior occasions voted voted a third time so it was very brilliant what they did and nobody was aware of it so the Democrats started a process which the Republicans then inherited and trumped them there were real fears a cabi in America expressed this to me the other day that uh when I was in Colorado um that a close result would have produced violence there’s been no evidence of violence now do you think the emphatic result will actually I mean I will America settle now for a while for long enough in your view uh to start to start I don’t know what I can’t say what will happen on inauguration day but yeah they have a problem and that is uh there were arguments that he was a little illegitimate in 2016 because he did not win the popular vote he will win the popular vote he will win the electoral college not by one or two votes but by a substantial more he will get over 300 electoral votes he probably will win the popular vote by three three or 4% and more importantly the left has said Jan he’ll he’ll do another January 6 if he loses there will be riots we cannot have that so they put themselves into position that if you were even to demonstrate peacefully and patriotically in the fashion that Trump said on January 6 in the left’s mind that would be insurrectionist so now they’re going to try to convince the American people if they hit the street and try to contest a popular and Electoral College defeat all they’re doing is fulfilling their own prophecies they’re doing what they’re accusing Trump I don’t think it’s going to be very effective especially because one of the things that people don’t talk about is in 2020 the minority vote was only 12% in these large cities and so there was a racial component that the left said you can’t go in and observe mail and B because that’s racist but when you have half of the Latino vote and 25% of the black vote and many blacks and mexican-americans that take one group are actually at in the larger cities and they’re handling the ballots then they are eyes and ears that are making sure that their candidate Donald Trump is not being cheated and that was an a dimension that no one quite understood so there weren’t there weren’t these big arguments as as last time that you can’t go and look at the votes we’re not going to let we’re going to pull the curtains down we’re going to have dropboxes because the people who were in charge of that apparatus were them elves Trump supporters at least in large numbers nonetheless we have to assume that there will be push back so we’ll see over the next four years I assume uh resumption of resistance uh lawfare all over the place the influences I notice they’ been saying as I understand it what will the rest of the world think of America for doing this terrible thing well the rest of the world if you take my country you know the media has just been absolutely unable by and large to show any objectivity at all and in particular what is distressing to me as in Australia we’ll come to this in a moment unable to assess independently what’s best for us the rest of the world which of the two candidates in a very dangerous place might have a greater capability to handle the geopolitical challenges but my real Point here is um we’ve got such a distorted reality from the that it’s very hard for anyone to be able to make an objective judgment it it is in the rest of the world it is and you know I’ve talked to very senior diplomats and I’ve said do you think there’s something here that Vladimir Putin invaded OSAA and Georgia under the Bush Administration he invaded uh the donbas and Crimea under the Obama administ ation he tried to take Kiev and the Biden but for four years when he was eager to go he stayed within his borders under Trump or why was it there was no major war in the Middle East or why was Iran broke or why did vat uh China not send a balloon over the United States are not serly threatened so they know that and uh I think the world knows that so it was a far safer place when he was there as far as Australia it would be it’s kind of ironic that a lot of the English-speaking countries are suspicious of him and yet in the United States there has been criticism from the left that he is such a partisan for the Western countries and his mother was from Britain and that he is especially pro- Australian pro- British even Pro Canadian even given the trau government and he’s talked very warmly of the Japanese and the South Koreans and the Israelis and he’s not an isolationist as he’s accused he’s as we’ve talked before John he’s a he’s a Jacksonian and what I I think what it means for Australia he’s committed to be a strong Ally of the United States and what does that mean in Practical terms he’s not going to let China go into airspace it’s Australia’s if it’s off if Australia objects he’s not going to get into your Internal Affairs but if an austral Diplomat says a Chinese ship is coming into our territorial Waters as they do with the Philippines or Chinese are overflying he will call up the Chinese and say we you are vulnerable yourself do you want me to that’s how he’s transactional like that but he has these strong a strong sense of affinity with the countries that best um Mirror Image the majority and the traditions of english- speaking uh founded uh by the British and uh I would think people in Australia and Britain especially would appreciate that I mean he’s very anachronistic and he’s been made fun of he had he still talks of Reagan and Thatcher and Roosevelt and Churchill and thinks that you know that the the British version of the European Western experience is the one closer to the American Spirit and um we’ll see but I think if I was if I was a a member of the former British Commonwealth or the present British Commonwealth I would feel that this was an opportunity to have an American president that would take political heat to be a very strong Ally in a way that we haven’t seen before and uh I think you you’re going to see see that very quickly I think he’s going to increase the defense budget it he’s already talked about that about breaking up the swamp stopping the revolving doors so we don’t end up building $177 million f-22s or4 billion aircraft carriers alone we start to produce as we did in World War II thousands of cheap drones thousands of patriot B uh missiles at a cheaper cost a whole new way of trying to defend the West the thoughtful media in Australia we do have some are pointing to the fact that this has to be raised both our prime minister and our former prime minister now ambassador to America have been personally quite unwisely in my view critical of President Trump in the past and there’s real speculation as to what that will mean for the relationship it raises the question of people claiming that he can be vindictive I’d be interested in your perspectives I think our prime minister and our ambassador they’ll be scrambling now of course to try and fix the relationship but they have handed him something of a club I would have thought yeah well that’s what the left says but most of those charges are projectionists so he was in a position to fire all of the doj lawyers 300 of them that had hounded him out he did not do that Obama did that Biden did that he did not do that Obama weaponized the IRS against his uh and Trump did not do that Trump uh did not indict he did he’s not going to have local or state prosecutors work as surrogates to go after the Biden family in fact I would imagine he might even uh pardon Hunter Biden and he’s a transactional uh kind of art of the deal so with the Europeans in NATO he talks a tough game and then he he gets them to reluctantly spend a hundred billion dollar on arms and then all of a sudden the Ukraine war during the Biden Administration breaks out and they’re much better because of trump they’re in a much better position to defend themselves of course they don’t give him any credit so he talks certain ways but he’s been actually criticized on the right for not being more vindictive and for not uh playing Tit for Tat I’ve had so many prominent Republican people or conservatives talk to me and say you know somebody’s got to talk to him because he doesn’t understand deterrence these people attack him and attack him and he mouths off and he replies but they’re not going to get the message until we start indicting those people or if they want to have uh Sanctuary cities and we have to have Sanctuary gun cities or maybe we’ll or Sanctuary this right-wing cities but he hasn’t done that at all and uh he he will return to Washington presumably vastly more experienced he now uh knows I think how the place works yes that and and he will know I would imagine who are real change agents and who to put who to build around him if you like a good team around himself that presumably with a sympathetic house and Congress as it appears he will have the synic might say that’ll give him unfettered power others might say it will help him govern in a very clean way to respond let’s face it to Americans vital concerns the economy is not doing well for them uh immigration’s a problem and the elites and their wokeism are mad he will know now much more effectively how to start to change these things would that be a fair assessment yeah I think it is he doesn’t see that as radical he sees it he’s called it common sense he’s taken the example of Mexico Mexico sent by deliberation 12 million illegals here we have 350,000 people with criminal records that were knowingly let in from Latin America and Mexico they’ve create they’ve committed horrendous crimes we have the cartels that have killed indirectly but by Design in a way by masking fenel with prescription drugs and Candy even 100,000 Americans and Biden was so afraid to say anything to Mexico the first thing Trump said and he even said it before the election I’m going to call the president of Mexico up and I’m going to say no more fenel and no more illegal immigration I’m going to slap a 25% tariff on you and I’m going to probably tax your remittance if you get 60 billion we’ll see how you like it and he’s serious about that he’s not trying to bully people but he he does things like that so if you have a international incident where Australia is in a very vulnerable to take your country and they feel that they need the support encouragement of the United States he’s not going if he believes that if he were to agree with you he’s not going to call up and say well on the one hand on the other hand he would say what do you need when do you need it and I’ll do it and that’s the type of Ally he is he’s not wishy-washy and that’s what bothers the left they they think in nuances or in gradations and incrementalism and he he’s not that For Better or Worse he’s very decisive he’s not Reckless but he’s very decisive and he moves very decisively with China with Russia uh with the radical Islamic world and if you think what he said he was going to do in 200 15 he said he was going to get rid of Isis in fact he used the vulgarity I’m going to bomb the out of them he said he was going to deal with the Iranians who had killed Americans in Iraq that was Soloman he said that he was going to cut off Iran and bankrupt him he almost did he would have if they hadn’t uplifted the sanction all of those things he did and I was talking to you know to some Israelis diplomats and they said we’ve had so many sophisticated people who knew the Middle East and we’ve asked them for support and they always give us a thousand reasons why they couldn’t do it and they were asking me as an American what is what is it with your president he came over here and our team said to him we’d like to finally get the embassy in Jerusalem he said it always belonged there and then they said they keep talking about the golen heights but it’s Israeli he said yes it is that’s done and then they said when Iran is the the cause of all these problems is there any chance that we could discuss the Iran deal or the the 100 billion in oil reeven he said they’re done we’re out of the Iran deal we’re going to get this and then they would say things like the houthis are terrorists but no American would wants to ruffle their Fair well we’ll just call them terrorists and as this as this Diplomat spoke to me he said he did more for Israel that needed to be done not just because he liked Israel but were fair and were for the greater good of the Middle East he did more in two months than the last 50 years of American presidencies and he said the odd thing about it was he probably was not as sophisticated or as well read in the intricacies and the nuances of Middle Middle East history and diplomacy but he had an innate cunning and and sense of morality what had to be done and and why it wasn’t done and so that’s why he’s kind of you know you go to Israel today and he doesn’t mention Israel much he doesn’t really talk about it but when you go to Israel he’s almost a sainted figure because he did more for the autonomy of Israel than any other president has done and yet he didn’t really he he may John have got 40% of the Muslim vote in Michigan the more the left Pander to yeah he did part of it was in the west we do Overlook in the west that there are many many people in the Middle East who are quietly cheering Israel on because they frightened of Iran yes he did and he was he made the argument that Hamas does not represent or it may have been elected once but it’s not in the interests of the people of Gaza that Iran if you cut off the head of the snake then people would be free to deal with Hezbollah and Hamas and the houis a lot of people from the Middle East appreciate that and so um I think it’s an inciting time we’ll see if he gets good people around him one of the problems that when you talk to people surrounding him in 2016 no one wanted to work for him the Maverick The Outsider 2020 it was sort of that he had a team now they’re getting six and seven applications for even minor position everybody wants to work for Donald Trump and I don’t know if he’s going to be able to filter out but suddenly the thing in Washington is all of these never Trump anybody wants to be part of this team they’re very excited and they’re going to have a terrible time trying to find people who will not do what happened last time with the anonymous the person in homeland security that was bragging to the New York Times that he was sort of an insurrectionist and derailing executive orders or people in the defense department that were overriding uh Trump’s orders he’s he’s got to get a team that is loyal but he’s got so many people that want to participate he did say uh as I understand it at one point that um Israeli should go after Iran’s nuclear capability uh presumably he’s likely to revisit that and presumably the Iranians are now deeply concerned because plainly they’ve been hit much harder already by the Israelis than they’re admitting plainly they now know that Israel is highly effective with American encouragement I would have thought the Israelis could do immense damage to Iran and they would be extraordinarily subdued by that at the moment yeah I would say that because of his he had a lot of people RFK Tulsi gabard around him and he has campaigned strenuously against optional military wars in the Middle East especially land engagements cost of benefit analysis these are not worth it but as I understand his message to Netanyahu is it would be better for you if you feel that Iran is going to attack you again either to write it out and then take it in retaliation given the prompt to take out the nuclear facilities their military bases their oil before I’m president that would be easier so that is a message that I think he’s telling the Israelis and if they don’t do it I think the message is the United States is not going to interfere in your Internal Affairs we’re not going we’re not Neo conservatives we’re not going to go try to bomb Iraq and uh Iran and change the government but I can tell you this given the provocations that Iran has leveled at you we are going to be very supportive of helping you protect your Homeland and more importantly the decision of what targets to hit and when to hit them and how to hit them is yours as a an AG grieve Sovereign Nation and we will facilitate your decision but we’re not going to interfere and tell you you can do can’t do this and you can’t do that and I think that is one reason why why Iran is very hesitant they’re in a situation now where they’ve sent 500 projectiles into Israel only about five or six if hit anything Israel has retaliated twice and just demonstrated that they can take out the entire air defense system of Iran and the next time they’re provoked they have the ability to take out all of its oil Revenue ability and its nuclear sites even if that were take a we with complete impunity and so Iran now is in a very difficult position if it doesn’t do anything it loses face among its satellites the houis Hezbollah if it does do something and provokes uh Israel a third time they may not have any revenue or nuclear program or any military bases there’s nothing that can stop the Israeli Air Force from doing that and with a new Administration that would encourage Israel to take care of its own deterrent needs uh I think Iran is going to be very cautious this will have enormous simplifications for Iran’s allies if you like yes I would have thought particularly the Russians but also the Chinese coming to Russia first um in a town hall meeting not so long ago uh the president Trump said if I’m president I will have that War settled in one day presumably he will move to try and force a deal I’ve heard this line that he might say to the ukrainians you’ll have to seed some territory or we’ll stop helping you but he might say to the Russians um unless you agree to something now we’ll give the ukrainians everything they need that’s the sort of it would reflect that transactional skill that he seems an ability he has how do you think he might tackle this well I think that’s pretty much he’s a dealmaker so he’s not going to go in as the left alleges and just pull the rug from Ukraine be not because he would agree or disagree with that but because it would be impossible for him to get a settlement he actually is a much more interested in humanitarian questions than the left is he’s talking always about the 1 million plus dead wounded missing on both sides largest war in World uh Europe since World War II so I think we know the outline of what he wants to do he wants to tell the ukrainians you have our support we’re going to continue to arm you but this is what I want Putin to do and you to do during the Obama Administration Obama never said he wanted to use Force to get back the Crimean dbas neither did Trump neither did Biden and I think people who look at the history of those areas and the long Association Within the areas and in their surrounding areas with Russia understands that it was militar impossible for Ukraine to take back the Crimea and Donal and I think that will be the bone one of the two bones that Putin gets he can tell the Russian people I had to go to war to make sure that Crimea remains ours forever like it has been since 1787 it was an independent country for three years after ‘ 89 then Ukraine took it from us that’s will be the propaganda in the dbass this was stal this was kev’s area he seeded it stupidly to Ukraine he thought Ukraine would be part of the Soviet Union forever now it’s ours and then second Putin will tell the Russian people we went to war to make sure that Ukraine is not in NATO and I don’t think Trump will put it in NATO and then Ukraine will say well what do we get out of it and he’ll probably say you’re free to join the EU we’ll try to get a demilitarized zone uh Russia will go back to where they were on February 24th of 2022 and we will arm you to the teeth and I think that’s the outlines of the deal more or less and that would be I think nobody’s going to be satisfied but it would stop the blood killing it would stop the escalation it would stop the talk of the use of nuclear weapons this week people had suggested that some of the Russians were putting explosive devices on cargo and passenger planes headed to the West if we don’t do that it’s going to be an escalation and I think he doesn’t want that so he’s willing to be a broker to cut a deal we know of course that he uh he doesn’t like the leader of North Korea very much refers to him as Little Rocket Man Little Rocket Man appears to be supplying mercenaries in quite substantial numbers to Russia uh I would imagine uh Trump will be onto that one very quickly I think so he was last time even there though he confounded the left the left started out saying that he was too mean he was too Reckless when he said my button bigger than yours he came in where North Korea was in was just being a very useful Bulldog that the China master cut loose and caused havoc and then China kind of chuckled about it and when they started threatening to to send missiles into the West Coast Trump was alarmed and said I have a bigger button and you do and we can do the same thing to you and ours will work he said ours will work the left went crazy and then he did what he everybody who read any of his books or followed his career knew he would do he wrote a letter to North Korea and said this is not in your interest to be on the wrong side of my Administration I’m willing to talk they talked and then he did exactly what he wrote about in his books he said I like Mr Kim Jong-un we can cut a deal I didn’t find him to be a monster if you read anything he wrote about that’s what he always said when you make a deal you do not insult your opposition and then when you make the deal you make sure you get an advantage and then after the deal is over you do not privately ridicule them that you praise him to the skies and that’s exactly what he does so I would imagine that he would tell Kim Jong-un in stage one what you’re doing is unacceptable if you keep doing it it’s going to end badly for you then stage two is I’m willing to make a deal and then make some kind of deal and then praise Kim Jong-un and that’s where the left came in and said look at this he’s praising a dictator even though he had just they had just told us that he’s deliberately antagonizing a dictator they had no idea the modus operandi of how he works but it was working and it worked with Putin and it worked with Chi and it it we didn’t have a war and it worked with the radical islamist soon as he did this he said Iran is an outlaw Nation he killed Soom many no one even dared to do that he bombed the crap he set out of Isis and then he Iran called him up and said you’ve made us look ridiculous and Trump said well I’m about ready to hit you and they said can we send 16 or 17 missiles over to you in Iraq and Syria and get close to your base we’ll tell you the time and the location put everybody in and it’ll say so he said yeah as long as you don’t kill one American if you kill one American we’re going to send a salvo so there was some disagreement the military felt some people selford shell shock from the but he the Iranians basically did what they said they were going to do it was a it was a p tempkin attack and then Trump didn’t cause a war but Iran behaved and then he put sanctions on him uh and yet they criticized him for that they said he was provoking a war with Iran and then when Iran didn’t do anything and backed down and they said well they sent missiles in and he didn’t reply to them he didn’t care about America so we got to the point whatever he did they were going to criticize but it all had utility and they haven’t come up with any formul solution that improved on his own and as soon as he left the world fell apart it really did what does bring us to president she um there’s a general View in many quarters at the next four or five years in other words during the next presidential term will is the most dangerous time of all the warnings that the Amer the Chinese military’s been told to be ready by 2027 to take Taiwan by force if necessary um I would imagine that Trump’s reelection is hardly being welcomed in Beijing today no it is not not welcomed and of course on the far right there was always a conspiracy theory because of the lab leak that people felt I don’t subscribe to that but this as a sign of what the right thought of China they felt that the co co that originated in China was somehow connected to the Chinese fear of Donald Trump and wanting them out when in November of 2019 it was almost sure that he was going to be reelected was ahead in the polls he would have been reelected if it had not been for Co and the lockdown and then the George Floyd riots which I think in themselves were a result of a lockdown their intensity so China realizes that uh for all the talk about their they are ascendant and they are all powerful and they have a bigger military they still have I think in most economists will agree that they still have only about 70 to 80% of GDP they have four times the population and a very crude formations that takes four Chinese workers to approximate 70% of what one worker does in the United States we’re very productive society and in many areas for all of the Chinese stealing and coping uh were much more preeminent and under Trump I think China will be faced with a lot of things that that is going to bother them they have over 300,000 students come here most people think 2 or 3% are actively engaged in Espionage I don’t think that’s going to continue I think that they have a lot of asymmetrical tariffs they know that I think for everyone Trump will try to outdo their tariffs not a blanket tariff but a tit fortat I think he will tell the Chinese if you go and Bully the Taiwanese or the Philippines or of our more prominent allies we have ways of retaliating against you and we will do that and we wish you wouldn’t do that the thing about so strange is that under prior Republican administrators candidates that believed in the same theory of deterence As Trump there was kind of a brodo that was different than Trump’s they actually would kind of brag that we want to get go to war with him or something Trump talks a great game but he does not want to destroy relations with China or any of our adversaries he just wants to remind them that they have overreached and what they’re doing is not in their interest and they will stop it but he doesn’t really want to go to war and uh there’s no idea of going into Iraq or Afghanistan or bombing Libya like Hillary did to create some type of Utopia um it’s he doesn’t have any dreams like that it’s all Jack Ian and he wants to protect the Western World and uh when I go to Europe it’s very bizarre John to hear people who are going to be beneficiaries of Trump’s foreign policy damn him and then praise people who would not lift a finger to help Europe in a in a crisis um or would you know Trump said to the Germans you’re playing with fire with a Nordstrom pipeline number two and you’re heavily dependent on natural gas and we better stop that for your own benefit Biden then said he was a warmonger or he was alienating our Ally and then they went over Trump tried to to stop the the pipeline Biden came in and greenlighted it which was I think unfortunate and the same thing they said Trump uh suspended armaments he did not he he everything that the Congress oppos uh approved he sent to Ukraine eventually Biden came in and put another arms embargo on Ukraine and he said he he would only react if it was a major inv Invasion if if uh Putin went into Ukraine he asked zinsky do you want to ride out we’ll fly you out of KB the first week so it’s it’s a very dis it’s a very strange paradoxical disconnect where people who are beneficiaries of American muscularity uh attack the person who cares for them or like wants to help them and then praises the multilateralist people who appease and would allow them to be very vulnerable and yet it’s all emotional they just don’t like Donald Trump’s Visage they don’t like the way he looks they don’t like his accent they don’t like his mannerisms they don’t like his language so they can’t get with that you referred to American muscularity uh three questions as we uh if you like bring the boat into Harbor um that muscularity depends on the vibrancy of the American economy uh first question would be presumably Trump will not support uh decisions that around the environment that hobble American growth with any great enthusiasm you’ll see a resetting of uh America’s environmental objectives would that be a fair a reweighting in favor of economic growth and and cost of living concern I think that will be done by executive orders I mean he’ll preface it as he always do he loves I love our water I love our clean air I’m going I’m a conservationist not an environmentalist I’m a conservationist but then he will lift the EV mandate that has almost destroyed some of our major automakers that will be gone he will promote especially this new technology of smaller nuclear plant power plants that are much safer and much easier to build and much quicker to build he said that when Biden replied to him as did Harris well we’re pumping more natural gas and oil than you did he just simply said you weren’t until the midterms and then you copied my my protocols but you’re not telling the truth because if you’d followed them to their uh comprehensiveness you would have been pumping three to four more million barrels and he always prefaces that in terms of Europe we could be supplying it’s a great deal we could be supplying Europe with all the liquid natural gas they want and of course he said that it was a big mistake for the Europeans uh and Joe Biden to stop the Greek cypriate Israel natural gas line to Europe he’s a he’s a businessman he wants as much production of food fuel building uh he just said the other day I’m a builder builders in the in America unite we’re going to build houses we’re not going to have any homeless we’re going to keep get the country moving again he tells a story almost every time when he’s addressing people Elon can you imagine with this huge rocket it’s 10 stories high it comes down it it’s 10,000 degrees it’s going to burn up everything or crash in the ocean and then this arm comes out of nowhere and I call Elon up Elon what did you do I grabbed a rocket Mr President can the Chinese do this not for 10 years Mr President that’s the kind of C it’s a it reminds me of JFK he had that same idea that we were going to get back moving again and build things and be preeminent and uh it it’s very funny one of the touchstones is the way he reacts to Elon Musk who the left hates because of his purchase of X but his attitude is my God he created an electric company that the vehicles are better than the big 3’s Vehicles he’s the only person really to break into the 83 he saved NASA from itself he revolutionized social media he’s a renaissance man we’ve got to get we’ve got to tap into this guy’s genius he’s a he’s American he’s he’s American this is the kind of guys we want even people he doesn’t particularly fond of like Jeff Bezos he’s been very fair to he likes people like that that are entrepreneurial successful he’s not envious of them as most people are uh it’s so I think it’s an exciting time if you’re an entrepreneur in the United States well uh Elon Musk himself has identified two trillion I think in potential savings uh and that does lead to the question about America’s loss of control of the budget in recent years and the prospect that in many ways president Trump may want to cut taxes for example which might have an even more delerious effect on that bottom line um Neil Ferguson was in Australia recently and he made a fascinating comment I heard him observe that down he’s an economic historian of course that down through the ages no great country has remained great for long when the cost of servicing its debt succeeds what it spends on defense will America crossed that Rubicon as I understand it last Financial year getting that budget under control it means growth but it also means restraint Elon Musk is pointing to areas where there can be big savings how do you see that unfolding and how worried are you about that budgetary mess that seemed to achieve received very little attention during the campaign it does I’m very worried about it that was his great failing in the first term that of course it was the covid stimulus he hadn’t been as Reckless Obama but he ended up as being Reckless because of the covid stimulus the the problem with the $ 36 trillion debt is that half of it was run up by Republicans and when Republicans run up the debt and they’re supposed to be sobern Jud ious custodians of physical sanity then the left says well if they did it then we’re going to do it because if you know they they say they’re tight wads and they’re not tight wads so what do you expect of us the other thing is when you promise no tips here no income tax on social security it’s kind of people here have been kaching kaching kaching Mr President you’re giving them $4 trillion of lost revenue and he says well we’re going to deregulate the economy and grow our way out of it I think people think we can grow partly out of it but not at current spendings and then when you put all of the social entitlements like Medicare and Social Security off the budget what are you left with well the left says you have nothing to cut except defense or trim around the margins but now he’s saying yes there’s a lot to cut because what you think are essential we pretty much products of the Great Society that we got along fine with without who why do we need a department of Ed uh energy why do we need some of these why do we have to have a a pra like national public radio or PBS maybe we can Outsource it they’re talking of all these other areas that are sizable uh as a way of avoiding to cut Social Security or Medicare but he’s going to have to get the physical we’re spending 1.1 billion servicing the debt we spend 800 million 800 billion excuse me on defense so um he’s very worried about defense as you and I’ve talked before because we’re putting our money into too few platforms and we’re behind we don’t make things anymore our supply chains are dependent on foreign uh suppliers we’ve demonized a particular cohort the white male from the middle class that died it double its numbers in Iraq and Afghanistan 50,000 short uh we have a whole group of generals who upon retirement VI violate the uniform code of military Justice attack the commander-in Chiefs all of these things he’s talked about about how to address that but debt is I think should be the center of his Focus because we can’t go on this way and that rises the question of tariffs uh I can understand I really can genuinely understand the emotive appeal to somebody like the vice president elect who in many ways is such an interesting and clear thinking man and yet you know he he SE the hollowing out of American industry uh and yet conventional economic wisdom would say tariffs are not the answer I can understand too why you would want to use that the threat of that against the Chinese when you think they’re not dealing in good faith that’s a different matter but tariffs per se are generally regarded as counterproductive and inducive to you know reduce trade at least to trade War at worst uh and a reduction in living standards for all of us where do you think that debate might land well sometimes he’s been very sloppy in the use of tariffs but when you talk to some of his advisors like Kevin hasser for example I think who’s his most influential economic advisor they will clarify it and they said of course free trade allows everybody to benefit but if the free trade is not fair and by that they mean primarily the Chinese but also the Europeans if they have tariffs on Goods on American products and we don’t have tariffs on the same identical American product uh European import then he’s going to put a tariff to equalize it and then if the free marketer comes back to Donald Trump and says well you can’t do that because they’re more they they are more effective and or this this particular product is done cheaper and benefits the world because it can be done better over there then he will say well then we’re going to find something that we do that’s better than what they do but they don’t play fair so I think what they’re trying to say is they’re going to look at the totality of import and exports look at the various tariffs and as a general rule and I don’t think I’m being chauvinistic but the the the reports that I’ve seen show that the United States is one of the most asymmetrically tariff countries in the world in other words since World War II it’s been the position of both parties that the United States shall take a hit in trade to allow countries uh that are allies of the United States but even neutrals to develop economically uh at our detriment based on two realities one we can take the hit because we’re so wealthy and two that new found Prosperity will eventually end end up in Freedom and consensuality and pro-western uh sentiments I don’t think that’s operative anymore if you drive through my hometown I will see six or seven major factories have been closed for 20 years gang activity poverty per capita income of $166,000 a year when I was in high school it was booming we made trailers we made uh hydraulic lifts we had one of the biggest canes in in the country but all of those were put out of business you could argue by cheap Chinese Taiwanese Korean exports now those countries have reached a level of affluence where that asymmetry is not conducive to anybody anymore so I think he’s going to Target those with some exceptions and the exceptions are countries that are milit AR allies of the United States and I think uh uh one thing I I will say just to finish and when I say he’s transactional um I’ve been writing another book about him just starting and I’ve been reading a lot about his past he’s very I don’t say insecure but he’s very sensitive and he feels that if people are going to attack him personally or the country the United States the embodiment of him as president then he’s going to reply in kind so they will cease doing it and that’s that ended up in the M name calling um but I I’ve been watching various foreign leaders that have been bullying the United States and and I noticed that they they calmed down uh during the campaign with the idea that Trump might be elected especially president aroan of Turkey he has not been as boisterous or saber rattling against Trump as you would think given he would see Trump as more likely to stand up to Turkey than Biden or or Harris or Obama and um I think it’s in all of us as humans that we develop a respect for people who are confident and treat us as equals and whether we like it or not maybe we’re ashamed to admit it but we have we develop a sense of contempt for people who weak are considered weak or obsequious or todish and uh we all like to be treated with respect and U Donald Trump doesn’t look at magnam minity as weakness to be exploited when he sees magnam minity from foreign leaders he feels they should be reciprocated and kind that’s that’s unusual and leader so if I was a an Australian or a British person or european or Japanese or South Korean I would or an Israeli I would feel a sense of relief because the world is more dangerous uh we’re closer to the use of tactical nuclear weapons than I’ve seen at any point in my life and I think that he will restore a sense of deterrence without trying to be chauvinistic and with a vodio that would start an unnecessary War well as an Australian I have to say the big criticism I’d make of my country is that we’re asleep on the wheel on the geopolitical dangers that confront us uh I believe the Wall Street Journal was right when they pointed out that Camala Harris seemed to have little experience or interest in this matter and that she that s certain of these Bad actors would have tried her on very early on and I see no evidence that she was equipped for that so I have to say as an Australian yeah it’s very funny because uh safer today as a historian of World War II it’s remarkable how of all countries given the size of the Australian population how in the world it was able to field crack troops all the way to North Africa to Burma all over the world and the Australian Navy Australian pilots during the blitz it had a uh a reputation of a of a very muscular tough military that was not afraid to to fight for itself that’s why it was had such a strong Affinity with the United States still does as I said before I think in one of our broadcasts the LA last Pew International poll that I saw it listed Australia as the one country the United States had the highest regard for the people of the United States I hope he can develop that relationship so do I Victor you’ve been very very kind with your time again your insights have been absolutely magnificent uh and I’m hoping that lots and lots of people the last time we talked immediately after an election we hit about 2 and a half million YouTube downloads so given the importance of what you’ve had to say I particularly hope this time that people in my country tap in thank you so much well thank you for having me John [Music]
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