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floor is recognized for 5 minutes attorney general you’ve told us that it’s a dangerous conspiracy theory to allege that the Department of Justice is communicating with these state and local prosecutions against Trump you can clear it all up for us right now will the Department of Justice provide to the committee all documents all correspondence between the department and Alvin Bragg’s office and fonny Willis office and Leticia james’ office the offices you’re referring to are independent off offices of State I get that I get that the question is whether or not you will provide all of your documents and correspondence that’s the question it’s I I don’t need a a history lesson well I’m going to say again we do not control those offices they make their own questionis communicate with them not whether you control them do you communicate with them and will you provide those Communications make a request we’ll refer it to our office of legislative Affair see here’s the thing you come in here and you Lodge this attack that it’s a conspiracy theory that there is coordinated law against Trump and then when we say fine just give us the documents give us the correspondence and then if it’s a conspiracy theory that will be evident but when you say well we’ll take your request and then we’ll we’ll sort of work it through the doj’s accommodation process then you’re actually advancing the very dangerous conspiracy theory that you’re concerned about now you’re you were a judge once nominated the highest court in our country when you were a judge I’m just curious did you ever make political donations to partisan candidates Cates no no and and you didn’t because that would create the potential appear appearance of impropriety we didn’t because there’s a federal rule Bing federal judges for making contributions right but but under that same theory of attacks on the judicial process like shouldn’t someone be owed like a jury of their peers and a judge that’s nonbiased rather than getting a judge from your political opponent’s donor file I’m well aware that you’re not asking a Hy hypothetical you’re asking me to comment on a Verdi jury verdict in a another jurisdiction which has to be respected I won’t comment on it that case is still ongoing the defendant Mr attorney general I hadn’t asked you about the verdict yet we were getting there I was I was talking about the judge and so so let me ask you this question about your time as as a judge was there ever a time when you were a judge when you had a family member who was personally profiting off of the notoriety of a case that that was before your court I’m going to say again it’s very clear you’re asking me to comment on a case in another jur wait hold on hold on Mr attorney general did you ever have a family member profit off of the notoriety of any case that you sat over say again you’re asking you’re asking me to comment on a Case currently well it seems you’re connecting the dots Mr attorney general I’m just asking you as to a general principal but you are aware that judge maran’s daughter was profiting off of this prosecution you are aware that that creates the appearance of impropriety you know the very reason there’s a federal rule against judges giving donations is because it is the very attack on the judicial process that we’re concerned about I’m sorry I don’t agree with anything you just said but I’m not going to comment on a so you won’t comment on it Mr attorney general but you had no problem dispatching Matthew Colangelo who’s Matthew Colangelo that is false I did not dispatch Matthew Colangelo Matthew Colangelo Matthew Colangelo became the Assistant Attorney General at the very beginning of the Biden Administration without having been Senate confirmed goes and gets this senior role at the doj and then after I believe it’s uh gupto replaces Colangelo Colangelo makes this remarkable Downstream career Journey from the US Department of Justice in Washington DC and then pops up in Alvin Bragg’s office to go get Trump and you’re saying that’s just a that’s just a career choice that was made that has nothing to do with the lawfare coordinated by I’m saying it’s false I did not dispatch Mr Colangelo anywhere well do you know how he ended up there I assume he spoke uh he applied for a job there and got the job but see you know what I tell you I had nothing to do with it well you might not have had anything to do with it but we’ve got this contemporaneous evidence in Mr palance’s book so pomarance writes this book which I’m sure you’re aware of where he says we put together the Legal Eagles to get Trump we got all these folks together and we assembled them for that purpose and so when when we on the Judiciary Committee think about attacks on the judicial process proc our concern is that you the the facts and the law aren’t being followed a Target is acquired here Trump and then you assemble the legal italent from doj Mr palar and you bring everybody in to get him I really I and meanwhile the judge is making money on it the judge is making money on the judge’s family is making money on it for stuff that you yourself wouldn’t do you know no one’s going to buy this no one’s going to believe it it’s going to create great disruption and I am sadden by it because like you I have given my life to the law I care deeply about the law and I think that the law fair we’ve seen against President Trump will do great damage well beyond our time in public service I see my time expired I yield back ranking members recognize for five minutes thank you Mr chairman M Mr attorney general do you want to respond uh to anything in Mr Gates’s tiate I think everything he was talking about was an a case in another jurisdiction an independent prosecutor Mr pomarance uh worked for that independent prosecutor I don’t know Mr an I don’t know what’s in his book but uh these are decisions made in another Office Independent of the justice department thank you Mr attorney general last week as we all know a jury of his peers convicted former president Trump on 34 felony counil falsifying business directions to the first degree the case was brought by the Manhattan da so it is a state case not a federal case I shouldn’t have to ask you this Mr attorney general but since the majority seems to be confused can you please explain the difference between a state case and a federal case yes the manh Manhattan district attorney um um has jurisdiction over cases involving New York state law completely independent of the justice department which has jurisdiction over cases involving federal law we do not control the manatt Manhattan district attorney Manhattan district attorney does not report to us uh the Manhattan district attorney makes its own decision decisions about cases that he wants to bring under his uh state law thank you my Republican colleagues seem to believe gentleman Flor is recognized five minutes I guess I’m just wondering Mr attorney general has anyone at the department told President Biden to knock it off with Hunter I mean you guys are charging Hunter Biden on some crimes investigating them on on others you’ve got the president bringing Hunter Biden around to State dinners has anyone told him to knock it off our job in the Justice Department is to pursue our cases without reference uh to what’s happening in the outside world just yes or no have you done that is what we do so it’s a no no one that I know of has spoken to the White House about the hunter Biden case Wonder course not okay I got it I got it so Hunter Biden is selling art to pay for his $15,000 a month rent in Malibu how can you guarantee that the people buying that art aren’t doing so to gain fa favor with the president job of the justice department is to investigate criminal allegations you have information investigating this I mean someone who bought Hunter Biden’s art ended up with a prestigious appointment to a federal position doesn’t it look weird that he’s making he’s become this immediate success in the art world as his dad is president of the United States isn’t that odd I’m not going to comment about any specific not going to comment not going to investigate so Hunter Biden associate Deon arer told us that Hunter sold the appearance of access to then Vice President Biden are you confident he has stopped doing that I’m sorry I didn’t understand the question Hunter Biden associate Devon Archer told us that Hunter sold the appearance of access to then Vice President Biden are you confident he has stopped I’m going to say again that all these matters are within a purview of Mr Weiss I have not interfered with them and I do not if you were confident that he had stopped you could and I do not intend to interfere with him I want to so it was a lot of Chinese money that was working its way through these shell companies into the accounts of the Biden family so the China initiative was set up during the Trump administration at the Department of Justice to go after the malign influence of the Chinese Communist party and the Biden justice department dissolved the China initiative so I guess I’m wondering does the department have any documents uh that would detail the basis for why you got rid rid of the China initiative that President Trump had set up the Assistant Attorney General for the National Security division gave a long speech which explained that he has testified before Congress several times we’d be happy to provide you with what’s the Bas just tell us all now wh why why was the China initiative dissolved what uh the what the Assistant Attorney General said was that we Face attacks from four nation states North Korea China Russia and Iran and that we need to focus our attention on the broad broad range of these attacks sometimes we don’t know you are you saying that North Korea has the same malign influence risk to the United States as the Chinese Communist Party are you are you trying to represent there some parity there because because here’s what it looks like it looks like the Chinese gave all this money to the bidens and then you guys came in and got rid of the China initiative and it was successful like I I saw one rationale that you guys got rid of the China initiative because it was racial profiling but but one of the people you convicted was a guy named Charles Liber who was a Harvard Professor taken $50,000 a month to do China’s bidding and give them whatever research was being done are you aware of the millions of dollars that moved through Rob Walker’s shell companies from Chinese Communist Party entities into Biden family bank accounts are you aware of that there were a lot of questions that you just asked let me start with the first one about North Korea North Korea is a dangerous actor both kinetically and with respect to cyber but not on par with China I’m on okay it’s it makes you look unserious to suggest may I answer your question or not answer the question about whether or not you know about all the millions of dollars that move you don’t want me to answer about North Korea I already know the answer and so does everyone they’re not the same risk as China so let’s get on to serious questions and serious answers do you know about the money that moved through Rob Walker shell companies yes or no as I have said repeatedly I have left ma these matters to Mr Weiss I’ve not intruded I’ve not inter IGN like you’re looking the other way on purpose because everybody knows this stuff’s happening and you know what people don’t pay bribes to not get something in return right we the the China initiative resulted in the convictions of a Harvard professor of someone at Monsanto so we were working against the Chinese they paid the bidens and now now you’re sitting here telling me that North Korea is the big threat I got to get to this one thing on January 6 so did the FBI did the FBI lose count of the number of paid informants on January let me answer your question about China CH this question I only get five minutes you’ve already sort of I think the pooch on China January 6 did you lose count of the number of federal assets did you lose count in order an audit gentlemen’s time has expired I I get an answer to the question of did he did they lose count let him answer the question time has expired the Attorney General can respond China is the most aggressive most dangerous adversary United States faces and we are doing everything within our power to rebut that to stop that to prevent their invasions both kinetic both um and through cyberspace and we will if if someone gave that answer in your courtroom when you were a judge you would tell them they were being nonresponsive and you would direct them to answer the question time is uh ping the witness time is expired I got it I just I was I was I was I was you like your honor you want to stick with that yeah I I was getting laugh at to come me your honor point of order either way okay I understand that too all right but the gentleman asked his question before his time expired the Attorney General did not respond to the gentleman’s question I was hoping he would respond to the question about the confidential human sources on January 6 he didn’t respond to that I’m sure we’re going to get we’re going to get an answer that L of course Mr chairman questions before that that he was not given a chance to answer understand I the witness might have thought but the witness doesn’t Mr chairman point of order the witness does not control the time hang on exactly right members control the time if they want to switch their question and focus on one more question that they’d like an answer to I want to give the witness a chance to respond to that final question that Mr Gates asked he didn’t respond to it someone else is going to ask it I’m sure we now recognize the gentleman for Tennessee for five minutes Mr Gates thank you Mr chairman I’m very concerned about the influence of lobbyists in Washington DC there’s no prohibition against the Department of Justice hiring lobbyists to be prosecutors is there you mean former lobbyists I hope yes that’s correct there’s no prohibition and can you describe for us the specific vetting that the department does when professional influence pedlers are hired and given Prosecuting authorities well the hiring of assistant us attorneys is a this is a career hire made in the different us attorney’s offices there’s I mean for the Washington I mean in Washington at doj are there any special procedures that vet lobbying contracts or maybe who a lobbyist worked for before they’re giving given prosecutorial Authority so again I’m I’m not sure what uh kind of person you’re speaking with if you’re talking about uh line prosecutors there is a background check everybody uh I’m sure here is familiar with the sf86 has to be filled out includes all the people that you work for the same is true in main justice but there’s no special review for lobbyists as opposed to people who’ve been Engineers or had any other career I don’t know but I I don’t believe there’s a difference but obviously lobbying made let ask about political Consultants political Consultants are people who get paid to ensure that a candidate wins or loses an election that a political movement is successful or unsuccessful is there any prohibition against hiring political Consultants as prosecutors at the department again I don’t think that um we’re allowed to even look at people’s Politics the question no no no no it’s not their politics it’s the profession of being a political consultant there’s no special vetting for I don’t think that there’s a specific prohibition there is a requirement that once somebody becomes a prosecutor just like when somebody becomes a judge that they get rid of whatever preconceptions they had before and that they go forward under their new responsibilities and are subject to the ethics rules of their new resp we would hope that would be the case Mr attorney general but I tend to think that if people are in the influence pedaling game or their prosecutors it can be kind of dangerous to mix those to be an influ fluence pedler for hire one day to be a prosecutor the next maybe to rotate back and forth among those careers and it sounds like there’s no special vetting for lobbyists or political Consultants let me ask the question about partisan committee staff we have partisan committee staff that you see here their job is to ensure that one party or another preserves or uh you know captures the majority that legislative proposals are successful and not successful no prohibition against the department hiring partisan committee staff as prosecutors is there as I understand understand that every Administration including the one preceding this one has hired people who have been committee staff I don’t think there’s a statutory limitation if uh the House of Representatives and the Senate think that uh partisan um or I’m not sure that’s how prara got his job he worked for Schumer and then he ended up in the southern district so we have people who can be lobbyists and then prosecutors we have people who can be political consultants and then prosecutors we have people who can be partisan committee staff and then prosecutors the public Integrity section o has jurisdiction over election Integrity correct it has uh uh jurisdiction over election crimes yes yes so uh is there any prohibition against people who’ve been lobbyists um partisan committee staff or political Consultants actually going in and serving in the public Integrity section or is that allowed just say again the hiring in the public Integrity section is a career hire uh made under the Civil Service it’s not made I know I’m worried about their prior career though see what what I think is that if if someone has been a a political operative to then put them in charge of election crimes it’s kind of like having the fox guard the hen house don’t you think well if if you think that that would be a perfect example of something the house should pass a statute barring people from particular professions from working in the Justice Department and would you support that legislation I’d have to look at what it is and I have to look at whether it it itself violates the First Amendment but I don’t think there ever been any restrictions like that before I I appreciate your open-mindedness uh and and I hope that persists during your time at the department would you provide the committee a list of lobbyist former lobbyists or just former political Consultants who work in the public Integrity section so that we might inform on the legislation that you’ve suggested we might consider I don’t intend to create a list of career officials and what their previous jobs were so there people who who literally were political operatives who have Prosecuting Authority in the area that oversees elections you won’t give us the list I don’t have any idea whether there is any such person time of the gentleman has expired
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