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but you look around and you see these people and some of them really have paid a heavy price for telling the truth and they are cast out of their groups whatever those groups are but they do it anyway and I look on at those people with the deepest possible admiration the people around our country are destroying it and they’re doing it on purpose what they’ve done at the border completely changing the population in the country letting in millions and millions of people my role is to tell the truth to the extent I can see it always with the knowledge that we see everything you know through a glass Darkly we don’t see things clearly but you do your best and you cannot allow people to force you to lie period I have guns at home and often on my person when I’m in the United States I’m proud to say because I want to defend myself and those I love against violence I’m defending what I love and if you’re against that I guess I I would ask why why would you be against that well so you don’t think you H any kind of responsibility for these hate crimes the very first thing you should do every single day is tell all the people you love that you love and affirming things out loud makes them real and that is also simultaneously an acknowledgement of a truth that we don’t face which is we don’t know what’s going to happen today and reminding yourself of that every single day will bring you paradoxically [Music] Joy please join me and welcoming our great friend and a great doctor of Truth Tucker Carlson [Applause] [Music] thank you thank you I don’t even know where I am I just landed I just landed and um it took me an hour and a half to get here there’s a lot of security uh all the security guys look like they should have been in Butler PA on Saturday they they definitely brought the real ones out this time thank heaven um thank you for having me I am thrilled to be here I didn’t want to come to this convention now I’m really grateful that I did um and I spent the whole day dealing with politics this day uh starting at 5:00 a.m. and I just I forgot how repulsive a process it is and how feline and ruthless the players are it was a reminder why I don’t like politicians I never deal with politicians I deal with people who believe in things and some I agree with and some I don’t agree with but they’re all basically sincere even the wackos on the other side are generally sincere they really mean it and I kind of get that and because I’m I think I’m pretty I may be wrong I certainly have been but I’ve I I mean I mean it but you deal with political people and they don’t mean it all they mean is they want Power that’s it and there’s been a lot of jockeying because there are a couple big job well one big job which was just awarded and it’s it’s crazy to watch politicians around power so there’s this job one person makes the decision and whoever gets the job immediately has a lot of power and it really is like waving a flank State over an alligator they just they just jumping up and snapping in the air but they’re not doing it in a straightforward way I mean you sort of I’ve always wondered I spent 35 years in Washington and there were politicians I liked but I just couldn’t help but notice that every single one of them had a weird personal life almost every single one not all but most of them something they were hiding they were secretly gay or they were into drugs or alcoholic or cheating on their wife or whatever and I thought this is not a random sample of the population like my neighbors aren’t living like this why is all of the US Congress and and I’m not being mean I know it sounds like something you say just to be nasty about a group you don’t like but I’m being sincere why is that why are so many politicians living lies and it’s because that’s who they are I mean deception is at the core actually of who they are and when you watch them pursue power it comes right out rather than just saying you know I think we should do this because here’s the outcome and I think we should avoid that because there’s the disaster that will result it’s always if you do this I’ll give you something secret there’s it’s it’s like the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen and I haven’t been around it in a while and I just watched it up close over the last 24 hours and I thought man I’m glad I’m not around this very often however it’s worth making yourself see it and in some cases go through the process because it actually matters I guess that’s the other thing that I learned so now JD Vance is the VP pick and I think every person who pays close attention has got to be thrilled by that and if you don’t know much about JD Vance I’m not even going to make a case for JD Vance I’m going to tell you what I just saw which is that every bad person I’ve ever met in a lifetime in Washington was aligned against JD Vance and I do think the negative case is often more powerful because I I know of myself I do not think I’m a particularly good person I have strong reasons for feeling that way I don’t always think that my side is right I know for a fact I have been wrong many many times and I I hope to correct and be honest about my error so it’s it’s not like I think that you know I’m always you know God’s always on my side sometimes I’m not on God’s side but I definitely know who’s representing the other side it’s a lot easier to tell who the people who are only in it because they like I don’t know killing other people in pointless Wars like I know who those people are and their odor is so powerful that I can smell one when he walks in the room and every single one of those people in a line that would extend from Milwaukee to Chicago was lined up over the last week to knife JD Vance not on personal grounds he’s a perfectly nice guy he’s like one of the only members of the Senate with a happy marriage true but because they thought he would be harder to manipulate and slightly less enthusiastic about killing people that’s it that he would be an impediment to their exercising power and boy they went after him in a way I’ve just kind of never seen which I think happens every day in Washington I just don’t have advantage on it because I’m far far away and grateful to be and again I was just reminded that this process is so ugly that normal people do not want to participate in it and yet normal people have to suck it up and do so anyway because the consequences are just so profound and so very serious that’s the first thing I was reminded of and the second thing I was reminded of and I’ve been thinking about this for the last 15 months since I spoke at heritage’s 50th Anniversary which was the beginning of a total change in the way that I see the world is that this is not ultimately political this is much deeper and and I think what happened on Saturday the the assassination attempt against President Trump reminded a lot of people this or awakened a lot of people to this there is a spiritual battle underway there is no logical way to understand what we’re seeing now in temporal terms you just can’t these are not political divides there are forces and they’re very obvious now they’ve decided for whatever reason to take off the mask whose only goal is chaos violence destruction and there are the rest of us who once again are not always certain we’re right but we know that that’s bad and we’re against that sort of standing watching thinking is someone going to explain to me why this is politics this is not politics at all this is much deeper and older and more recognizable than that this has been going on since the beginning of time and I do think by the way that the more literal Among Us and I would count myself in that category fail to see this because we’re so desperate to ascribe some kind of recognizable human motive to what we’re seeing so we call it leftism or neoliberalism or communism or anarchism we come up with some phrase to describe it but those phrases are inadequate they do not describe what’s actually happening so what you’re seeing now is really not at all different in substance from what you saw in 1789 in France from what you saw 1936 in Spain from what you saw in 1917 in Russia from what you saw in 1975 in nonen it’s all the same these are forces of chaos and destruction which are fundamentally anti-human which are against people by the way explain that for a second what kind of movement could be against people there are all sorts of movements that are against people now transhumanism AI is inherently anti-people the climate cult is in inherently anti- people explain that rationally if your view of the world is as mine was derived by an understanding of evolutionary biology all of us have been raised to see the world through the lens of evolutionary biology the species does what it does because it’s acting in its own interest and its own interest is to procreate to pass on its genes to continue and so you tell me what we’re looking at if the defining movements of our time are against carrying on our genes procreating continuing is that human well no is there any other animal species that kills itself no is genocide known in the natural world no it doesn’t even make sense dogs don’t commit genocide against other dogs maybe against rabbits that’s cuz they’re hungry but no animal decides to eliminate itself because it’s unnatural so it doesn’t happen no animal commits suicide that’s not found in nature okay that’s something outside of nature that’s Supernatural and that’s what we’re seeing but it’s also what we’ve seen again and again and again throughout history there are forces within every society because they reside in the human heart that are against people they are dedicated to the destruction of people and the civilizations that people build and if you pay any attention at all to history you will recognize it it’s like wait a second people are saying exactly the same things the climate people the AI people the transhumanist people the Biden Administration they’re saying exactly the same kinds of things the same themes that every other movement of this kind and they had a million different names for them throughout history were also saying that’s the first thing I noticed the second thing I notic is what do all of these movements over the past 2,000 years have in common who do they hate most as you can tell by what I said about JD Vance I I think you learn very much by taking a look at who’s mad at whom and about what so if there’s something that threatens you pay close attention to what makes them angriest it’s certainly true in my business which is the speech business what are they trying to get you not to say what are they punishing you for saying those are likely to be the truest things not the falsest things it’s not misinformation it’s not disinformation it’s truth that’s why you hate it obviously that’s obvious now took me about 10 years to figure this out I’m not a super genius but what group do they dislike most what group are they absolutely terrified of and hoping to eliminate well it’s Christians that’s who it is it’s Christians and I’m saying this is not a particularly fervent lifelong Christian I I am a Christian but I haven’t spent my life you know surrounded by plumes of incense deep in prayer I spent my life in a newsroom saying the f- word I mean I’m not sort of a Pious person at all but I try to be a noticer since I’m paid to do that and the group that makes them angri as triggers them most I guess we would say now is Christians Christian nationalism people pray outside abortion clinics people celebrate Easter and not transvisibility day these are their real enemies but that’s been true in every revolution in the past 2,000 years it was true during the culture Revolution there weren’t many Christians in China they were the first to be killed it was true in the French Revolution they beheaded nuns what did the nuns do were the nuns really an impediment to progress no the nuns existed and they pledged a higher fty to Jesus and that was their crime and for that they were killed it was true in the beginning of the Spanish Civil War the Communist side which wasn’t really communist at all it was anti-christian what’s the who’s the first person they executed well it wasn’t a person at all it was a statue of Jesus and they opened fire on it with a firing squad in a picture that when I was a child was famous it’s now probably forgotten history probably still available on Google as of this afternoon you should look it up but if you find yourself firing bullets at a statue what you’re really doing is revealing your deepest priority and that’s to kill Christians and why well you know I can’t fully answer that question because I am hardly a theologian but I think I do think it tells you everything I think the most obvious reason is anybody who pledges a higher loyalty than the to the people in charge who believe themselves to be Gods is a threat but I think it’s more than that because it’s not every religion actually there are a lot of religions I respect them all by the way I I’m a just a believer in faithfulness and acknowledging that you’re not God I’m probably the only right-winger in the world who’s not bothered when I see muslims praying five times a day amen anyone who acknowledges he’s not God five times a day is not my enemy that’s how I personally feel but it’s not my religion but it’s actually not is Islam or any other religion that makes these leaders angry it’s Christianity it’s the religion of Jesus that makes them angry and that suggests that maybe there is something a little deeper going on here it’s not just that they’re in the way Christians are hardly in the way they’re the most Peaceable people there are they worship a God who tells them not to hurt other people to turn the other cheek to pray for their persecutor so it’s not like they’re disruptive they’re the opposite of disruptive and yet they are the enemy so you should know this I think I don’t know if there any Christians here or people who are you know interested in continuing to live in the country you grew up in but these are the terms and these are the stakes they are not the ones that we’ve been told they are left versus right Republican versus Democrat I learned that the hard way in the last couple of days watching the leaders of the Republican party not all the leaders but a lot of them some of the most powerful and richest people in the party reveal who they really are and it made me think that for the purposes of this election I mean let’s be honest Trump just won he won now only he surviv an assassination attempt he stood up without knowing whether there were other Shooters there he stood up and faced the crowd and raised his hand and said fight fight fight that’s it you do that you win and by the way I happen to notice that the crowd which also didn’t know whether there were other Shooters who watched Trump get shot in the face they did not bolt it wasn’t like a fire in a theater actually they they sat there they watched him and intently and when he stood up they applauded him and many cried why is that because a brave leader gives his people heart that’s why it’s exactly why so with that Trump became president i’ bet my house on it and he defeated the Democrats and on Merit by the way not through the usual political scheming I’ll trade you a Sate seat for your vote no he did it by being a man in a nation of people who weren’t quite just being honest okay he acted like a man the kind of man I respect and I think every person feels this way every person no matter what you think of trump because leadership isn’t actually all about you know the way you talk it’s about how Brave you are that’s what people want they want a brave leader so he won four months before the actual election but it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have enemies and the truth and no one wants to say it but it is true a lot of the enemies are people who claim to be his friends in the political part I voted for my entire life and they seek to subvert him and they seek to channel the energy into a super dark Direction and above all I’m just telling you this the last thing I’ll say and and I’m sure this is like very upsetting to everybody but it’s just I just saw it what do they care about what do you want to know what they care about they only care about war that’s it that’s what they care about they don’t care about immigration obviously at all our country is being colonized by the rest of the world no problem they don’t care about the economy they’re insulated from it they don’t care the only and they certainly don’t care that Trump has a naughty mouth said something you know UNT off camera they could care less these are filthy people right yeah they’re offended no they care about war they want the power to kill that’s it and that’s the power of course everyone who wants to be God seeks to possess that’s why human sacrifice was the thing I have the power to kill only God has the power over life and death and that’s the power they want andum trp has stood in their way imperfectly but Trump’s the only President you know since Jimmy Carter most of my life who hasn’t committed us to a brand new war that’s what they hate about him and that’s what they were trying to change over the last couple days I saw it that’s all they cared about and they lied about it of course and said all kinds of things were like insane and totally untrue but that was the motivator right there and when Trump came out in 2016 and said the Iraq War was a mistake which was very obvious to those of us who were in Iraq while it was going on it was like news to nobody it was shocking in Washington and that was the point which they sick the FBI on him they started bugging him they decided we can not have this guy because he was trying to limit their most important of all power which is to hurt other people and so you should just know this that’s what the stakes are I think he’s going to win I think it’s going to be the I think it’s going to be really important to Rolling back some of this insanity but you know there are a lot of people who have other agendas and you should just be aware of that thank you so much for letting me spoil your afternoon with that stuff [Applause] Tucker thanks for being here thanks for speaking the truth and uh obviously we have we have a lot that we can cover in a short amount of time but let’s start with a homework assignment yes based on what you just said things have changed since Saturday a lot of Americans in the center and maybe even some Americans on the center left saw that that near tragedy that near assassination of of President Trump and they realized oh maybe I’ve not quite figured out what’s been going on a lot of us have been in that category you’ve talked about that yourself we at Heritage have said that what do you advise the people who are in this Auditorium and also the people online to do with members of their family friends neighbor who still don’t get it what’s the advice that you give us in having those conversations to bring them into this movement that Trump has built well I kind of feel at this point that any you know first of all anyone who thinks the status quo is a good idea is probably not convincible you know if you let tens of millions of people into your country illegally you destroy all your cities you wreck the economy you can’t afford to go out to dinner you know things aren’t going well and if you’re willing to ignore that then you’re probably not someone I can persuade I would say that um never give up on anyone but I you know probably best to just pray for those people instead of talk to them about politics um I really think the the core problem in the country right now is bad leadership and by bad I mean weak and I think more broadly weak men are the problem you know you watch these schools indoctrinate kids and try and turn them into freaks circus Freaks and in the country that I grew up in the dad would just just punch the counselor out you know put me in jail I don’t care like you you you weirdo I mean that’s like child molester stuff talking to my kids about sex without telling me where’s Dad he should be beating the you know this person like physically and I’m happy to I just said I’m against violence but that’s like a very basic it’s like that’s the most basic requirement of fatherhood but also of leadership more broadly is to be willing to die for the people in your care period And if you’re not willing to do that you’re contemptible and what is that what are we looking at when we acknowledge that well we’re looking at the fact which is strength is the basic requirement of leadership weak leadership is an oxymoron and with weak leaders a nation dies a family dies a weak father will destroy a family you know a weak officer will get his men killed and a weak president will wreck his country and that’s exactly what we’ve seen I mean Biden’s core problem is weakness and what Trump displayed on Saturday was strength of the most basic kind that is absolutely impossible to fake you can think whatever you want about Trump or whatever you’ve heard about Trump you watch that tape the guy is shot in the face and is bleeding and forces the Secret Service to allow them to stand up and faces the crowd I mean you know all men it’s you know when they’re boys tell themselves well something happened I would jump right in and you know what I mean like I’d stop the shooter but you don’t know that actually because you’re not faced with it I mean very few people are tested in the way Trump was tested on Saturday and not only did he pass he got the highest score ever recorded and so you can’t look at that and it’s not again it’s not fak that’s just real it’s undeniably real no one staged that and so anyone who looks at that video I think comes away thinking that person has to lead the country because the option is more destruction that’s what I think just watch the video you know during your your comment there and also your comment from the podium it occurred to me that CS Lewis’s great phrase men without chests is really apropo here and and not to go you know too intellectual or academic here although remember I do lead a think tank it seems as [Laughter] if yeah I would agree with that I would agree it it seems as if Americans are saying Washington Elites New York Elites all of these Elites have complicated life and what Trump showed us in that moment of near tragedy as you said is just something basic and what we’re all yearning for is just a return to normal and it is normal for a strong man for a man period to respond the way you describe to the the school counselor you know with with all this disorder it’s normal although very very heroic in in on a on a tremendous scale for president Trump to have responded the way he did but it shows how starve this country is for just normal things what’s your prediction for themes this week at the RNC from a from a messaging expert he’s got his pulse on things what should the campaign really focus on not just for president Trump and Mr van but for people out here in the audience and digitally who are going to be involved in local campaigns what do we need to be emphasizing rhetorically well I mean I think can I say one thing really quick which is the definition of strength I think needs to be a little more precise strength is not abusive Behavior or authoritarian Behavior that’s what weak people do that’s what Gretchen Whitmer did during covid in the neighboring state of Michigan this is a demonstrably weak person with a facelift who’s like terrified to go out in public and yet she’s telling people they can’t buy paint in a paint store that’s not strength that’s fragility she is fragile and brittle and that’s why she’s acting that way true strength is calm that’s the first thing about strength someone who’s actually strong is in command doesn’t need to prove it because people can smell it the second thing about strength is it serves others it I mean willingness to die for the people you lead is a prerequisite okay I not afraid I’m willing to lay down my life for you okay that’s clearly the message of strength it’s what Trump displayed on Saturday and people’s reaction to it is amazing they instantly calm down dad’s home everything is okay it’s it’s received on a visceral level so to the extent that the campaign and I I’m not a messaging person obviously I’m like half insane and can’t stop talking so I’m not good at messaging but to the extent that they can convey that you know it’s fine actually and I think I do think the campaign is trying to say that in its Unity message and a lot of people hear unity and they think well Unity implies some sort of compromise conversation you can’t have a conversation with people who are unwilling to compromise the left which is a religious movement is unwilling to compromise on any level at all they won’t even admit men can’t become women so you how can you have Unity with people like that and of course you can’t but I think what they’re really trying to say is Let’s ignore some of the insanity actually be in charge you don’t need to constantly remind people you’re in charge just do it I mean a good Father’s not constantly telling you how hard he works to you know pay for the food you’re eating he just does it and you notice after a while and you’re calmed by that and I think maybe that’s the message we don’t need to respond to all this nonsense you’re too small to respond to that’s the way that’s what I would do no one wants to hear like why is MSNBC still on the air nobody watches it same with Cena nobody watches it and if I I look back on my life I’ve worked at both CNN and MSNBC so for me it’s you know the hatred is absolutely real but too much though too much unhelpfully don’t feel hatred that itself is a sign of weakness in my opinion and lack of self-discipline but why are we even talking about them nobody watches nobody watches I my nephew get drunk and post something on X and he’s got more viewers than MSNBC prime time I’m serious so like why are we even giving them Oxygen by engaging with them Their audience is I hope that’s part of what they’re saying I saw Don Jr who is really my favorite person um in Trump World who really I think does understand I shouldn’t even be saying this but it’s true understands the voters and how they feel um like on a real level on a gut level but I saw him do an interview with MSNBC today and they’re like you know are you going to separate more families at the border really you let in tens of millions of illegal aliens and wreck our country and that’s your concern and he just looked at the guy he’s like yeah go away like enough he didn’t yell at him just go away I it’s not even worth it actually and I think that posture is kind of what’s needed right now I’m not going to engage with you you you I’ve tried for seven years now eight years to have a conversation in good faith I used to try to book these people my show not one person would come on my show to debate the other side and then of course I got fired anyway but it’s it’s like it’s better just to be like common in command and I think that that restores Tranquility to the country faster than any rhetorical argument you could make so that’s high-profile high-profile National example which which is great and I also want to give some folks an idea of what they might be able to do locally and it seems as if you’re saying whomever you are National profile don’t engage with these Outlets that are dying don’t give them the oxygen that there’s also a lesson there about what we might do at the local level What I Hear most of all is I’m traveling the country from people like in these in this audience I know you do as well is Kevin how what advice do you have for me talking to my local school board talking to my local city council they of course want to cancel us but at some point people are going to those meetings especially Schoolboard meetings because they are invested in it with their own kids and grandkids what’s your advice for them because my and I think you know this but our rationale at Heritage in asking that question is we want this to be not just about DC and New York power centers we want Americans after Saturday’s tragedy to understand this is also about what we’re doing in our lives on a daily and weekly basis and to give people that that advice about how to expand the ranks of this movement locally well I I think Saturday is the inspirational moment to to do that and what’s the lesson of Saturday I mean there probably many lessons one is like if a guy 150 ft away at a political rally climbs a ladder with a rifle you know maybe this whole system is not quite what what we were told it is okay sorry um so there’s that but the big picture takeaway is bravery is the essential quality it’s the essential quality what’s the takeaway from Saturday Trump’s going be president because he’s Brave period period like actually Brave physically Brave like facing death shot in the face and unbowed unafraid defiant and and that that’s the only thing that works and I do think there’s been so much Whispering among the persecuted right about wow you know does this come to a time when we have to like physically fight back and I don’t think it takes that it doesn’t you don’t have to hurt anyone to save your country you do have to willing you have to be willing to be hurt however period you you have to be willing to make a sacrifice you do and I think people are cowards I’m just saying that sorry not no one in particular they’re an awful lot of cowards meet sometimes too but Trump is a reminder that doesn’t work the only thing that works is bravery so if you walk in to a school board meeting the first thing they do is seize the moral High Ground unjustly these are the people who have the least claim on the moral High Ground they’re immoral they’re filthy actually um they’re sexualizing your children they should be in prison but somehow they manage through rhetorical tricks to make you feel like you’re the freak because you want them to get their tentacles off your kids and you’ve already lost if you allow that and so the way to approach them I mean it’s a matter of employing words but moral Force you will not do that I will not accept that under no circumstance I will do everything I can as long as I draw breath to stop you from doing that to my children you have no right what you’re doing is totally immoral it’s criminal and I will stop you period you don’t need to scream and I and I and I think to say when people approach you and say well if you’re against this you’re a racist or if you’re against that you’re a whatever they call you names someone who has been called a few names I can promise you that not one person calling you believes that you are those things or even cares in fact they’re almost always those things themselves it’s purely a leash around your neck designed to control you it’s a manipulation device everyone here knows that already we’ve been going through this for many years and so if you’re still worrying about it then that’s on you like I don’t care what you call me actually I also don’t care if you put me in jail I really don’t I mean Gandhi I know I mean I have mixed feelings about Gandhi but he did end the Raj after he kicked the British out of India after 300 years and all he did was talk and just stand there and be obstreperous in a peaceful way and that worked I mean there’s it’s a little more complicated than that but that’s that’s kind of fundamentally what happened one guy was like no as Soul niton famously said to bring down a tyrany it takes one man who will tell the truth that’s it and so I think it is as simple as that I really do believe that I know that sounds childlike but it’s it’s demonstrable in history and it’s clearly true now you don’t need to I mean I would definitely not give up your guns ever under any circumstance and they’re going to try and make you do oh the real lesson of the shooting is you shouldn’t be able to defend yourself I don’t think it is the real lesson is you’re dangerous and you can’t have power actually um because you caused this as we all know so but the point is don’t let them seize the moral High Ground stay calm stay assured in your spirit that you are right and be willing to make an actual sacrifice on behalf of your family in your country and if you’re not willing well then the country is going to go to them and they’re going to eat you that’s just true one are the other lessons I think too is is how disordered the left is regarding the centrality of politics I mean you even said it here a few moments ago that politics in essence is is religion for them and it seems to me that we not just we on the right but just we period as As Americans whatever our political ideology may be ought to reject that concept and understand that there are things so much more important than politics in other words to be engaged in that kind of framework with the left we’re always going to lose or often going to lose I’ve heard you talk about living the good life and it it I’ve reflected on that since Saturday night from that moment as a standing with my 14-year-old daughter who was sobbing because we thought the absolute worst when we first saw the news as I’m sure everyone did but then I realized ah here’s a moment in addition to the politics and the policy which are important where we’ve really got to get back to especially us here to living the good life what advice do you have for us for keeping this in perspective thank thank you I mean I I think about this every day I mean one of the lies about living in a certain way is that you have to be rich and it’s hard for me to say because I made a lot more money a lot more money than I ever thought I would so it’s like oh yeah rich guy lecturing us about you know how to live um but if you saw how I actually lived I I think you’d see it could be done pretty cheaply I’m not into spending money um no I mean for me The Good Life Is A Life That’s rooted in physical reality actually I think one of the main problems with the modern world is how abstract which is to say digital everything is and I find it essential um to maintaining happiness and Clarity and perspective to get away from that if my rule is if I can’t smell it it’s not really real and I believe that I really do I sniff everything and everybody in my I’m not joking at all you sound like Joe Biden I mean it I I defended his hair sniffing because I do the same and I’m not ashamed of it but I’m not a weirdo or a creep I didn’t shower with my daughter so it’s it’s cool when I I think it’s defensible I do but the point is don’t spend your life in a fake World spend your life with other people who you can touch and smell and whose eyes you can see I think animals are incredibly important I really believe that the older I get I think it’s really important God created animals we have dominion over them it doesn’t mean that they’re totally different from us they’re not and there’s something about animals that brings us back to reality I could never live without dogs we have a lot of dogs I think it’s very important it’s not just like oh it’s my pet it’s like no no no it’s an expression of God’s creation of beauty and I think nature and trees are just essential I could not live without them I don’t understand how people can live in glass cubes on the 27th floor in Midtown I think it’s terrible for you I think it’s wrong that we would encourage that and I don’t think a lot of the things that are described as progress are progress at all I think that they are imprisonment and um and I and I and I think technology is is is uh you know a mixed blessing at best I really do I I feel I have very extreme views on this which I’m not going to share with you because I don’t want to reveal how crank is and crazy I really am on the subject but we accept technological progress a as progress when it’s enslavement actually and that’s super obvious no one does anything about it ever you know you hear people say in like Think Tank world or cable TV news world oh yeah we’re spending too much time on our phones it’s like no actually we really are and it’s destroying our souls and making us crazy and unhappy and dividing us most importantly from one another so you know take affirmative very aggressive like don’t allow a cell phone in your bedroom you weirdo what no don’t allow don’t allow in the bedroom you know I wouldn’t allow I don’t know a circus elephant in my bedroom too disruptive don’t allow an iPhone just like how’s how’s that so for at least eight hours a day I I don’t have that there are other activities that the bedroom was designed for and you know your phone or whatever anyway take that seriously I think and get outside and and if you’re not married just just grab someone off the street and do it it’s not that hard I mean it I I half mean that actually it’s not I don’t think it’s that it’s never been hard for me this is the danger of asking you an open-ended question I know because I as I said luckily I begin all comments with the caveat I am half insane which is demonstrable last question a little open-ended it’s January 2029 president Trump is giving his Farewell Address we tend to on the political right think in worst case scenario terms but we at Heritage as you know try to get people to think in best case scenario terms what’s the best case scenario for the message regarding what he’s accomplished but also more importantly where the country is going well the most I mean by far the most important question uh is does the country hold together and the country can only hold together if there is a consensus view not a universal view but a consensus view of majority of view on what it is to be an American it’s not a racial group it’s now it’s not a linguistic designation um it the population of the country has changed so radically in such a short period that it it risks breaking apart because not enough people have enough in common with one another that would be a tragedy that would never end well despite the fantasies you read on Twitter about how we you know that that’s not going to happen without massive Bloodshed you don’t want that to happen period so you want the country to hold together but it can only hold together if most people understand that they are Americans cuz why what do they have in common it can’t just be competing groups who are trying to screw the other ones out of some prize you know some money that other people made that’s very quickly where we’re going and so Above All Above All after avoiding nuclear war which has got to be the first one and only Trump will do that and JD Vance everyone else was like totally into nuclear war all the other people he was considering let’s have a nuclear war okay children anyway um so after that the most important long-term question is what do we all have in common and only a leader can establish that it doesn’t need to be explicit by the way I don’t think Trump’s going to give a speech when he’s president saying here are the five things we require of every American or every American must believe it’s not quite that simple but there has to evolve a sense of what we have in common of what we share because we don’t look alike again we don’t speak the same language often times we don’t have the same religion so what is it that we have in common that has to be the overriding goal above all others and um the last thing I’ll say is I think the big change in the last week is the social sanction levied against people for supporting Trump is disappearing fast it is one of the reasons this was such a divided country is that people were not allowed like normal white collar professionals were not allowed to even consider the possibility that Trump might be less than Hitler and now I think they can I do I think after Saturday that is the big change people like you know maybe I didn’t like Trump I didn’t vote for him the first time but all of a sudden I’m seeing I don’t know Elon Musk just endorsed him the you know I think the country’s largest government contractor a guy with an awful lot to lose there was anyone with a lot to lose yeah he’s the richest guy in the world okay he’s also got the most to lose in the world and that guy just endorsed Trump publicly about five minutes after the shooting that is a watershed in my opinion Bill Amman you know someone I don’t agree with on a lot of things Bill akman also a lot to lose someone who’s I doubt ever voted for a republican those are signals to the rest of the country again these are not people I necessarily agree with on the issues at all however what those gesture signal to everyone else it’s like well I I guess I could do that if I wanted to also that is a prerequisite for National healing and for National Unity doesn’t mean you have to agree with some in other words if somebody said to me four years ago like you’re not allowed to support Joe Biden well I never supported Joe Biden of I don’t agree with him on anything I didn’t yet hate Joe Biden I now do I’m ashamed to say I actually hate Joe Biden but I don’t want to feel that way but I do I do because he’s wrecking my country my kids live here but if someone said to me four years AG you’re not allowed to support Jo bid I said it’s a bad thing you should be all to support any candidate you want it’s a free Society it’s a free country it’s a free country a phrase that was common in my youth and now extinct but it is still a free country it must remain a free country and in order for that to happen you have to have the right as the average person to support anyone you want and I do think you now have the right to support Trump and that’s the beginning of healing for us Tucker thanks for being here thanks for everything you do on behalf of everyone here and I know millions of Americans we’re grateful for your Clarity and matching that with an unfailing sense of humor God bless you my friend Kevin God bless you thank you awesome
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