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I mean this sounds like mind-blowing to people how have you not paid taxes and stayed out of jail because I’m simply fall on the law because there is no law requiring to F and pay federal income taxes to begin with it’s a deception it’s the lie so this is criminality yeah how ironic is that criminals are using criminal law to try to catch people these people have been brainwashed through the the propaganda we need the government government is the solution no government is the problem you left Iran before the Revolution well I was fortunate I came in age 14 and literally a few months later the revolution started CIA is the one that did all this if you just stop stealing from and killing people then everyone would be more rich and more prosperous Constitution grants us no rights all it does is there to guarantee the rights that God gave to each of us as when we it does sound too good to be true to me um but I don’t know enough to refute any of [Music] it so you have not paid federal income taxes legally in 30 years over 30 years 30 years yes um how in the world have you accomplished that feat I went to a seminar in 1992 I was educated about tax law and by the end of that presentation it was pretty clear to me that we the American people had been hoodwinked to pay federal income taxes that we never legally owed in the first place so I just started educating myself latched on to anybody out there under Freedom Patriot movement who knew something about the income tax and the US Constitution and I followed the lead of the smartest wisest people that could find out there and I’ve been continuing to educate myself and educate others and here I am after 30 years Iris know me very well I’ve been under criminal investigation or other investigations by the IRS since 1994 continuously through today 2025 currently I’m under criminal investigation too who probably some other investigation too here I am I do broadcast on online and do seminars and publicly tell people you’ve been deceived you do not need to pay income tax or payroll taxes corporate taxes estate taxes gambling taxes or federal gun manufacturing taxes just like me so you I mean you obviously pay sales tax when you buy you know stuff at the store right you can’t really avoid that one uh besides sales tax do you pay any other taxes gas tax gas tax you know if I ever have a little alcohol little wine I pay you know you know alcohol tax so you pay consumption taxes yeah these are all the local and state taxes of our state of our country America’s 50 countries in the union that pays for the police sheriff the court system the firemen the roads all these basic uh things that most of us expect and rely on the to provide those are all paid by our local and state taxes like you mentioned the federal income tax you know does not apply to the 50 states people it applies to the people who are citizens and residents of Washington DC okay so you’ve been under continuous criminal investigation for 30ish over 30 years sounds like the same amount of time you have not paid federal tax ta MH um how I mean this sounds like mindblowing to people how have you not paid taxes and stayed out of jail because I’m simply fallowing the law because there is no law requiring any of the people of the 50 United States like you Robert and me to F and pay federal income taxes to begin with it’s a deception it’s the lie and since I know the law the IRS knows I know the law they do not want to try to indict me take me to a jury trial for me to educate the jury that there is no law requiring me nor them to file and pay federal income taxes equit me and then publicize this fact to the American people through my jury trial acit so they rather leave me alone try to mess with me other ways you know like civil investigations over money and they had me one time for over 13 years I was under investigation as abusive tax shelter promoter MH and they finally closed it in 2016 you just follow the law that’s the number one thing I teach everybody to do H so what does the law actually say about filing federal income taxes when you say follow the law what law are you following that other people that are filing must not be following you see America’s founding fathers Robert were Libertarians mhm they were Freedom lovers they had a revolutionary war for freedom and got rid of the kingom England tyrant M and this and the bank of England and the bank of England and these 13 states wanted to create an agent government the federal government for them to coordinate their actions of Defending themselves from England MH in case it wants to take him back right and other some common needs of the states to coordinate them mhm so they did not want this new government to potentially become a new king mhm so they deliberately wrote the US Constitution in a way that the federal government cannot tax the people of the states of the Union directly right except by going through a lot of Hoops which they did that in the early 1800s but not in the way they’re doing it right now so it’s still on the Constitution that direct taxes must be divided up amongst the states the federal governments sends a bill to each state this is how much to collect and they would collect it from the people and give it to the fal car government minus a little cut they took for administering collecting the tax so the the income task could not be written for the people of the 50 states so what they did is eroded for Washington DC and its territories because the federal government was given unlim mited power to do whatever it needed to do MH on federal lands which was meant to be primarily military lands to protect the the people of the States from Invasion by England so because they have unlimited power in Washington DC and its lands they are not restricted by the Constitution about how they want to tax any people that might be living or doing anything in Washington DC I see so the root the the law okay applying there and they use the term any citizen of the United States must pay income tax however the tri United States is defined in the law now and even in 1913 that the uh um uh wrote the very first moderate income tax to not include any of the 50 states back then it applied to Washington DC and all of its territories over the decades the territories all came out and that it only applies to Washington DC I see but they don’t bother telling you that cuz who looks at the law you know everybody just goes along with the with the program everybody assumes that oh they must meet me just like the corona jab everybody assume that this a vaccine but it’s not a vaccine it’s m RN a gene therapy and actually it’s a bioweapon okay but who on TV Land reads and thinks for themselves they just go along with the program that’s how they did it so Washington DC is almost like a separate country it sounds like okay and then originally had the authority to extract federal income taxes from territories but not States they had to extract well not people living in the 50 states not 50 states at the time but 50 States now and so the federal government does not have the authority to tax individual citizens directly they have to instead tax the 50 states who in turn have to tax their citizens directly and then remit that to the federal government okay so why does the why doesn’t the federal government just do that why don’t they just tax the 50 states and the 50 States Tax the individual citizens why do they go direct because it’s much more convenient and quick and the states will not be a burden or hindrance to stop the F government from doing so they want to just go directly to the people why because in 193 as your audience knows very well they created the Federal Reserve privately owned Central Cartel Bank yeah and then they wanted to lend money to the government out of thin air money made out of thin air by fraud and they were going to charge 6% interest on that where is that interest payment going to be funded from ah let’s have a direct income tax on American slaves okay this way we can always directly make sure that uh debt is paid for that’s why they did it that way okay so most people today I I think most people still they have normal jobs right they are W2 employees of some Corporation they receive you know weekly bi-weekly monthly paychecks and in those paychecks their federal income taxes and other things what Social Security Medicaid I think are are already deducted from their compensation so people receive their net compensation not their gross and those taxes are basically extracted at the source like the people never even touch that money right it’s it’s automatically remitted to the federal government presumably by the employers mhm how what can people even do about that it’s like if most people are in normal jobs and that’s how taxes are collected before they even get a chance to touch it what what can be done about that if people go to Freedom law school’s website Freedom law school.org we have a page on there that shows people how they can fill out the W4 form in a way that legally and correctly stops the employer from stealing any income tax from your paycheck to begin with and now you don’t have to file a 10:40 form by next April 15th to try to get some of that stolen money back back yeah so I urge everybody just go to Freedom law school.org and it’s right there so that that’s applicable to any us employee they can just fill out this form differently and get all of their gross pay yep well I had no idea um that’s interesting what so I’m going to go back to continuous criminal investigation for 30 years how much has that cost you relative to what you would have paid in taxes do you think uh I mean I guess first in terms of money and then in terms of time and headache uh let’s see cost me some ink and paper to write up legal stuff and some Postage and little minor filing fees cuz I did all the work myself I never hired an attorney to defend me because my attorney libertarian friends who I went to back in early 1990 told me pay him on you already know about income tax than what we were taught in law school M and I thought what you go to law school that don’t teach you about the Constitution right and income tax he said no they really don’t so I said okay then I guess I’m going to read the Constitution and the tax laws from my patriotic Freedom oriented friends on my own and started applying it so I just did it all for myself so I never cost me anything they’ve come after me like I said multiple times I’ve had interaction with them of All Sorts I beat them in the IRS Appeals office I’ve had IRS lawyers back off I beat them in the US Tax Court and also the federal district court I even quashed forc the IR remove the criminal investigations subpoena of the hotel I did my event they want to know everything about that event I forced the Irish lawyer to have the Irish criminal investigator withdraw his request because he was violing our first amendment rights so I’ve had many victories and it’s all on my website at Freedom law school.org and another time they came after me with over $660,000 back in 2009 for employment taxes it took me two years and the AR office and the US tax code officially zeroed out and all these about 10 or so pages of lean tax leans were all removed in zeroed outs well so you do all your own you represent yourself everything I did so for people that can’t do that what I’m trying to get to here is like there was some number that you were I don’t want to say supposed to that that you were um a certain amount of Taxation that would have been imposed upon you uhhuh that you what is it they came after me legally avoided uhhuh right uhhuh the question I’m trying to get at is did what was the spend what would the spend have been in terms of legal expenses for people that cannot represent themselves compared to that total tax bill so if someone had to go out and do what you did without representing themselves how much do you think they would have spent in that process to legally avoid how much in total taxes well that’s a good question because unfortunately and I’m not trying to brag or anything like that but in the Freedom Movement I’m the only one left that actually does this kind of work and I’m the only one in the history of the tax truth Freedom Movement who’s never gone to tax prison Irish never closed my organization okay nor have I quit and so I did the work myself and I can do it for people and fact we have a restore Freedom plan if people want to join us where we do all the work for them uh we do pay attornies as necessary okay and even if we were to lose the case and the IRS takes from 10,000 or 10 million whatever it is we will fully reimburse to them the money that Irish took to them so and if people want to do that you know all they have to do is to rather than giving the money to the IRS keep 70% of that money and contribute 30% of that to our restore Freedom plan and then they got all this guarantee I just told you about no tax present in time everything we pay for tax prison so I thought deor prison was something of the past but they’ll still throw people in jail for not being tax oh yeah for when you file a tax return you can go to prison and almost all the people that go to prison for tax crimes are people who were deceived by their accountant CPA or attorney MH to follow that 1040 income tax confession form that’s used by the Irish against them to put it in prison because it’s all signed under oath if you don’t sign that form for you don’t face 9 years of prison time for your single signature on one 1020 form wow it’s that that gives Iris the power and the problem is these professional tax people are the very people that grease the skits for the IRS to rape Us by deceiving us that we should follow this form and pay our accountant PA tax attorney to defend this so I mean if I may that sounds when you say here’s a program where you can allocate a percentage of taxes you would have otherwise paid to the federal government into this pool MH and then we will provide all these services and fully reimburse you and protect you I mean from an outsider perspective that sounds pretty snake oil e so what can you just unpack that a little bit like is how many clients do you have how long has this been going on is this a successful thing uh you said you have been under criminal investigation for 30 years what about the clients like what does this subject them to in terms of stress Etc like I can I imagine that would be pretty stressful situation for people to be you seem pretty chipper about it but it’s not stressful at all because you are liberated from having to keep records of every little expense as a business owner you have with your bookkeeper with your accountant G I didn’t get this right didn’t get that right you know you don’t need any of that stuff whatsoever you’re free uh from doing all this burden to begin with and I’ve done this program for over 23 years since 2001 and not even one person whoever came to me and sto filing and paying federal income taxes with freedom law for the first time time mhm has ever gone to prison tax prison or ever had the Irish Levy their bank account paycheck nor taking their crypto real estate any assets whatsoever that’s my track record so no asset sees no people put in jail yep 20 years how many clients that is a number I don’t disclose because IRS I don’t want them to know how many students we have got it so I keep that private got it okay what um so tell me about these this experience of living under criminal investigation for 30 years like what is that like are you like actually dealing with attorneys and paperwork on a daily basis like what are you what are you doing on a day-to-day month-to-month basis to deal with that I just go on with my life I mean they go on their own investigate all they want whatever they’re doing back there and uh they they they just they just spitting their wheels getting paid for doing no work or nonsense work that’s all these government agents are there are not really people to be afraid of they should be afraid of us because they work for us we are the bosses they are the public servants right so it’s not like they call you every month or you know they write to you no it’s not like that I just know that for example back in 1994 mhm when there was no Freedom law school at all yeah so I got copy of the records he had me and it said yeah this guy apparently came to a meeting pick up my flyers and they started criminal investigation on me and they had meetings about me with different agents like every couple three months and then after a year and a half he went away I did not even know I was under investigation until I obtain the copy of my files from the IRS and saw oh gee I was under investigation all this time so it’s nothing I just go on enjoy life being a free man interesting wow the farm at okoi is 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a confession as you described it so you are instructing people suggesting to people that they just don’t file that document so they don’t sign that confession and in doing so the IRS and federal government would then have no uh cause or no no um legal reason to do anything to you because there’s nothing in the law that compels you to file in the first place what about all the other tax forms that people have to file like the 1120s and parip returns and same thing you just don’t file any of them you just any of them that’s right but what if you’re in a partnership with I don’t know 100 people and 98 of them are compliant uh normal taxpayers and you’re getting you know you’re getting k1s or you’re getting like what do you do you you yourself just don’t do anything yep that’s right they can do what they want to do you do what you want to do okay and if you’re and then if you flip that if you’re running a partnership and there’s other people in it that need to get k1s you’re just sending them k1s without filing any of it no you just educate people if you’re the one in charge you educate your employees or people you work with look you know legally that would be wrong for me to send that form to you snitch on you falsely receed taxable income right from me when you did not so you just stop that people say oh thank you well what if the investor is say it’s like an investor in a LLC or partnership and they’re they want to receive a K1 which is the document detailing their flowthrough of income and expense from the partnership say they want that just is a compliant taxpayer what do you do in that situation which there’s more than one way to handle that situation one is you can give a piece of paper to them saying hey this is how much you were paid as a partnership in our partnership you typically want to be in form K1 but that does not apply to you but if you want you can consider this if you want to follow tax insur a K1 here we go you got a K1 you reached a million dollars now you want to go and take some of that and give it to the IRS be my guest you just write it just like that on a sheet of paper piece of paper so here it is you make this sound so incredibly easy and I feel like I’m surprised there’s not millions of people doing this why do you think that is because of course the international banksters who control the media in this country with the money they also uh bought off the politicians okay they don’t want the word to get out for American people to not being slaves of them they wants to be slaves serves so the major media avoids talking about this stuff they don’t you ever seen me on Fox news or CNN or New York Times of course not they do not want to bring us out to American people give you an example United Libertarians known for decades that US government is run a bunch of criminals and they are a criminal entity but vast majority of Americans they’re not realize how crooked the system is until Donald Trump became president and they did all this phony sappony Trump Russia conspiracy Trump Ukraine conspiracy impeached him twice you know then they raided his home with the FBI they put all his laware against them they railed him they even got a criminal case and convicted them to railroading and broke every rule of law with the Crooked prosecutors and double crooked judges who allowed that to happen and now people saw whoa gee that g was really bad and people used to have in America highest the for judges whole the whole Mighty judge they always uphold the law but no they’re a bunch of double crooked people because they are the worst they deliberately knowingly that judge put Trump convicted him in New York that he is violating every Rule and law imaginable there is but you know so save them with income tax people are waking up realizing oh okay the income tax is just another area of Lies deception of this Matrix of corruption I just got to get myself out that’s all you got to do I am the Morpheus Robert you and the audience you’re all the NEOS yourself if you choose to get out of the matrix it’s funny you use that metaphor because we often describe Bitcoin as the orange pill ciding the same Matrix metaphor MH um what is it so where do I want to go with this here people what people are what how do they do this it’s people are conditioned into just this habituation of filing these forms without ever asking questions and so the IRS is just depending on that inertia that people will just keep doing and imitating what other people have done and not really asking questions and that’s what this whole system is based on you’re exactly just like the corner jab most people who took the corner jab did it voluntarily right they were not forced yeah they were so programmed since childhood to give themselves vaccine their children vaccine the flu vaccine and they Trust and Believe in the authorities the government the medical system the judges the CPA tax attorneys they just keep going along and to stop he’s like stop that is all my life uh what do you mean stop so it’s a cultural conditioning process I mean the another term I’ve used on the show is mimetic engineering we’re like engineer basically um well we do see this a lot in mainstream media right like you get these Talking Heads to repeat a message a lot and before you know it you know all your F not all your friends hopefully not hopefully none of your friends but people around you will be regurgitating the same thing the talking heads on TV are saying and it’s like there’s this I saw this one around the plandemic time when I was living in Los Angeles and I would see this stuff on the news and then you would see all these people in Los Angeles just repeating what was on the news and that’s when I was like I have to get the [ __ ] out of here because these people are massively programmed from Tennessee originally and people just naturally distrust the government and authority figures so I had to get back to a a red State uh um you brought up Trump and speaking of red States what he’s talked about abolishing the IRS MH um what are your what are your views on the recently um installed president Trump and his position on taxation IRS Etc that is what Freedom law school and a tax truth Community have been saying going back to even past World War II that we don’t need to have this communist taxation system to tax the American people make us slaves M we need to go back to the roots of America where the federal government was funded primarily by taxing Imports and foreigners tariffs tariffs the 1800 you know all the whole 100 years there was primarily with tariffs and what we can do is not only tax the uh import of items we can tax universities that let foreign students come attend them and those foreign students that Elon Musk wants to hire on a hb1 visa to work in s americ will tax the employer and employee The Foreigner so you got a choice of hiring an Indian guy for m $80,000 and pay 50% tax MH or hire an American for $120,000 MH see and those foreigners first generation they pay a price a ticket for coming to land of the free home of the brave of milk and honey okay and so tourists come to America this is the disly land of the world is America they pay tax also in America we we have so many jobs Disneyland going want to come here and we have no more slavery income tax or payal taxes on people’s labor whatsoever Calling America the Disneyland of the world makes me really want to leave America uh I me in a sense that you know the Disneyland of years ago you know get the fun place it’s yeah yeah it understood so you yourself are an immigrant yes you immigrated to the United States from Iran yes okay when was that do you think what you the suggestion you just made too was that a suggestion that would disadvantage IM immigrants coming into this country if they would be subjected to this University taxation scheme you just suggested like how would you I see that you’re in favor of it now would you have been in favor of it when you were immigrating into the US originally how do you think about that sure look look at this uh you know every time I’m at a hotel in in Florida I I talk often to mate and the the people that clean up my room and they’re they paid the coyotes the drug dealers in Mexico $10,000 to come here and they pay uh they and sometimes the relatives put up the money and they have to pay him back $110,000 for somebody from another country that’s poor or middle class that’s like paying $100,000 oh you’re saying to get into the United St to get the United States because they know in America life is so much better than other countries on Earth we have it so good here that follow that immigrants would say no problem I’ll pay any price let me in in the land of milk and honey and I’ll pay whatever tax you want so that’s will not be a problem at all Forest will gladly still line up to come to America and pay income tax and their children now who are born here they won’t have to pay no income tax whatsoever what I mean this is not my position but just to be a devil’s advocate for the sake of argument what about someone who might say that America is such a great place to live because we have all these taxes like all these taxes go to the government and the government gives us all these services and free stuff how how would you respond to that well you know how would say really I mean you saw the report came out a few months ago that out of federal workers only 6% of them show up to work and work 40 hours a week I mean come on you know to to think that government employees work is oxymoron okay there there’s nobody in you know there’s no profit motive for them to be efficient in any way they get paid the same no matter how good or bad of a job they do everybody knows except people who don’t know are uneducate get it that government is waste and Corruption the money belongs to you you worked hard for it you are the best person to know what to do with your money these people have been brainwashed through the the propaganda that we need the government government is the solution no government is the problem get the government out of people’s way so if we went to this tariff only tax policy where governments only generated revenues through tariffs MH presumably that would lower government revenue a lot so that would shrink government a lot but I don’t think it would solve that problem you just highlighted that it’s it’s waste in corruption because it’s still I mean those price incre so you’re taxing Goods that are imported obviously those costs are passed on to consumers in the form of increased prices the government’s still getting this um you know extraction basically of economic of purchasing power mhm um wouldn’t you say that we just need no like no zero taxation would that not be the answer is like just completely why can’t we just obliterate all centralized government and just have local consumption taxes and local Powers why can’t we do that well because unfortunately politically is not feasible at this time we have way too many people in America old people for example who become dependent upon Social Security and expect that so they’re not if you tell them you’re going to get your Social Security you’re not going to even get off the ground and that’s the reality of it is you know they they believe they were lied to that they put the money in the system in the savings account that the government pays them when they retire even though the money was spent right away down the federal Rat Hole of corruption and waste it’s not savings at all whatsoever so it’s not going to happen politically as a Libertarian I would like to see that of course naturally but to make it really happen when need you take that phase approach to make it happen and going back to father’s vision is a way to go in fact Thomas Jefferson the most Libertarian president that we ever had probably MH when his term ended said his biggest accomplishment was that he was able to eliminate all internal taxes by the federal government the federal government ran by end of his term only on tax on tariffs and sale of federal lands basically so why can’t can we do that again which made America great we can we just didn’t know that was available Trump thank goodness got educated about this hopefully somebody will put us in touch with Trump and we’re going to help him implement this into law and have it happen and and America will become wealthy look at Detroit M all the good auto manufacturing jobs middle class jobs from 1970s on went out to Japan Korea and China they all come back to Detroit and Detroit could be once great again that could happen to all of America with the tax on Imports and we can pay the higher price of items on imported goods no problem because we got a good paying job now interesting um what when you you left Iran before the Revolution mhm what was your what was the motivation for that and why why why the United States besides the fact that it’s Disneyland well I was fortunate I came at age 14 when everything was peaceful inan completely okay and literally a few months later the revolution started so I had no idea this is coming so I so your parents got you out before then okay to get me educated to go to high school like I was 14 in 77 and to get ready for a good University education that’s why my father sent me but then Revolution happened in 1980 uh Israel and United States goed uh Iraq to invade Iran in 8-year war and I didn’t go back cuz that could have been drafted into a military i’ probably been killed and America is such a great country why would I leave this place to begin with sure sure but I love the the American roots of Freedom are principles of Freedom America is so special we just forgotten yeah you know what the roots of freedom in America were about and how we got to get it back what was the Iranian Revolution fought over well Sha of Iran uh used to be a a u Monarch uh like king queen of England and in already after World War II he was like that but then there was a prime minister in Iran who wanted to nationalize the oil 90% of profit of oil went to their British companies that way back in 1800s um uh got bought the uh oil license from the king of Iran very cheap so he wanted to nationalize that oil because he the English uh oil companies refused to give a bigger share to Iranian people Iranian government so mad was his name he the Prime Minister nationalized the oil kicked out all the British uhu uh you know Embassy people to spot lies mhm and then the brtish could not do anything about it so the brsh went to President Truman to do a cud in Iran military qu on behalf of the British but Truman said no then the Dallas Brothers to two banksters Crooks one of them had of a CIA the other one was Secretary of State they went to President Eisenhower and convinced them to do the military Katan Iran on behalf of the British oil companies and they did that successfully and they brought back the Sha the king of Iran the Prime Minister the de democratically elected prime minister and he became an autocratic dictator so Revolution was a kind of a blowback of that whole situation us started because everybody knew CIA is the one that did all this right you know so this whole thing between Iran and America is caused by America the CIA who dug knows and got rid of Iran’s Democratic elected government wow so yeah spycraft energized by trying to steal energy assets basically right yeah and then the people just wanted to throw off that that makes a lot of sense yeah um what so you arrive in America at the age of 14 uh what was your exper I mean I guess what were your your expectations versus the reality of America like I’m sure you had a certain picture of it in your mind when you arrived here and then you got to see the real thing how how did that play out well first I was blown away I lived in West Los Angeles in brenwood great place to live you know great place to live and I was blown away that you have all these roads with cement all over the road Iran cement was expensive to even build you just throw it on the ground on all the freeways and you have all you nail in the ground all these Lane changes uh between them like wow you can actually how do you do this Prosperity was blow me away that was number one number two when I went to college California University in Long Beach and I took up economics and I read Milton Freedman and you know the economics and I found out wait a minute this America is not as free as portrayed in the TV series and movies I saw in on about America and the westerns John Wayne and clean Eastwood you can be all you want to be do not violate others rights and keep your agreements that’s how it used to be in America MH so that this is not a land of free anymore and I realized someone like me is a Libertarian MH so now the I Contin educating myself but as soon as I became an American citizen in 1989 at age 26 first thing I did I really to vote as libertarian and contact the libertarian party of Orange County California and became activist in the party because we got to take back America our freedoms back otherwise where am I going to goh yeah I mean there is nowhere else in the world right with this level of individual freedom I mean at least historically I don’t know if it still stands that way or not um but the way the constitutional republic was founded was definitely unique you know why it’s Unique because America is the only country I know of on Earth any major country for sure that this the system the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights all recognize the rights do not come from government okay or crown or some military dictator it comes from our creator we’re born with it right all the laws in America still written without Foundation we just forget about that for example let me ask you how many constitutional rights do we have um how many do we have is this including all the Amendments I don’t even know the answer is zero because the Constitution grants us no rights oh it just enumerates the rights that we already have all it does is there to guarantee the rights that God gave to each of us as when we were born yeah I like the way um G Edward Griffin describes a constitution as a piece of paper where you memorialize all the things that government is never allowed to do right you know cannot encroach on the freedom of speech cannot encroach on the right to bear arms Etc and so that it’s meant to be this immutable absolute unchangeable flag pole basically around what you Orient the rule of law um obviously we’ve added amendments to that but the the Bill of Rights uh are really meant to be basically unchangeable I mean I think there is a mechanism to change them in there for unforeseen technological realities or situations in the future but it’s there it’s designed to be really hard to change cor on purpose right yeah hence the decentralization and all that um and yeah it’s it is unique right because it’s based on what they call them inalienable rights correct right they canot be right cannot be taken away you were born with them to by God taken away or given away even voluntarily they are you cannot alienate them from yourself that’s right in in alienable um but the United States got off track from its founding principles I would say with the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 uh shortly thereafter came the IRS um and maybe this ties into your story with Joe bister so how did your experiences in the mortgage industry and financial planning contribute to your understanding of the Federal Reserve and the IRS well I was in college and I was in a uh sophomore college and my teacher talks about the Federal Reserve lends money to Banks and so uh all right in emergencies the federal you know they do that and I said well where’ they get the money MH and the teacher said well they just do it I said what do you mean they just do it where did they get the money he said they just do it and I and I and I told the teacher out lot wait a minute uh that sound like fraud to me and teacher literally strug his shoulder up Palms up like this like that’s just the way it is so that’s when I realized oh this is a scam so then back when I got involved in 89 with the Patriots they Tau me about the fal Reserve from more information I read the book secrets of the fer Reserve by eus Mullins and I thought okay that completes a picture I was already on the track to understanding how it is yeah but our destruction started with our Abraham Lincoln with the his war of aggression against the Union in the South okay there was no need for that war that’s what started putting the federal garment over the states it was meant to be the states over the federal garment and then of course as you said correctly Wilson was one of our worst Presidents he did the Federal Reserve Act uh the income tax 16 Amendment which was a deception to make people believe they got to pay income tax but they don’t in the 50 states and 17th amendment that took away the state’s uh Power for the legislature of the state to appoint Senators so the Senators used to be answerable to the states to protect States power sovereignty over the federal government but now with the people voting for him they have no allegiance to the state they allegiance to the big money who gets them elected to get the vote of the people in the states so all those start and the World War I same thing again that was under Wilson who was owned and controlled by the international banksters yeah I think we introduced passports around that time too people could travel internationally freely pretty much before then but then they started issuing passports to uh trace and track people’s movements in and out of the tax Farm basically have you ever wanted to start a business in the Bitcoin space if so then the wolf startup accelerator could be for you wolf is 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income tax fraud on a talk radio show when he was driving as an Irish agent in California and called the guest DV kid and D Kid book he bought who mentioned Bill Conlin who was a friend of mine and Bill conin told him hey you should call my friend paymon that was in 1997 and I was in California just like Joe so I thought wow this is a special opportunity to have someone from the inside who called me and saysi doing this on my own time I’m not investigating you I just want to know the truth about this income tax fraud that I heard on this talk show so I started educating him after about a year he said Pay I’m going write a book about this that’s a great idea he wrote the book 90 pages about income tax from fraud and deception hi violates American people’s rights and then he after we edited the book he said paymon I gave it to my supervisor at the irss San Jose California office to forward it to the commissioner of the IRS in Washington DC to refute my book I told him I cannot uphold my oath to uphold and defend the American people and the US Constitution and their rights you know and be doing this as the IR special agent at the same time to enforce a non-existence law show me where I’m wrong please I got to live with myself and my conscience and my oath MH the IRS responded we’re not going to respond to your request and he can leave if you want to like wait a minute this guy is supposed to enforce the tax laws criminal tax laws he wants to know what law is he imposing on American people and you just say you just blow him away no we don’t need to know the law just do what we tell you H so he quit I put him out there in our first fedom rally in 1999 in Newport Beach California and then he news about him went wild and U and so with the people Foundation this organization had him come to DC to debate the IRS department of Injustice lawyers Congress heads about the legality income tax issues and no one from government would ever show up to debate him ever ever not once USA Today ads were taken full page by Wy people Foundation about this issue in Joe Bannister MH after three issues USA Today told the Foundation no more ads for you we don’t want your money so they otted your banister and then 05 was a trial they try to hook him up to somebody who he spoke at his company about taxes and um it didn’t work I was at the trial the jury acquitted him without Joe even testifying one word hm he was acquitted by the way n never charged him for not having for not having filed and paid federal income taxes because they knew if they did he get to talk about it he got to tell a story to the jury and get his book and his letter to the Irish commissioner all to the jury and educate the jury who go who’ say what unbelievable we’ve been all lied to so they try to get him with a conspiracy charge with this guy named Al Thompson who was a loose cannon but that didn’t work either in 2010 they had him under investigation criminally again and head of of do doj’s tax division was Rod Rosenstein the guy who had up the doj when Trump thing got going hysteria and his attor J you know left he’s got that that did that the crook MH so we’ve been found a deep State before the T deep State even became vul wow these days so I mean the a common theme I’m detecting here is the IRS central government really does not want people looking at or thinking about these the details of these Act ual laws right U that’s why they don’t so that’s such an interesting thing they don’t want to even and this is I guess the loophole that’s being exploited is they don’t want to pursue people doing what you’re doing because that will draw attention to the fact that what you’re doing is within the bounds of the law absolutely I mean look my personal victories over the IRS civil cases not criminal I mean that’s I beat the IRS without a jury mhm you know with a jury it’s much easier to beat the government because all 12 jurors must agree you’re guilty in a civil case as I had or there was only a judge one judge and you know and which are bias for the government if they cannot get me there with own appeals agents or with the judge how how they going to get me before jury so they don’t like the fact that I publicize my victories against the IRS you know they say no no don’t look at Freedom law school just go be a good sheephole you know eat your grass your grains watch sports and soap opera have fun and party drinking don’t think about these things that’s such an interesting thing that yeah the the incentives of these centralized powers are actually to keep people inundated with the bread and circuses or keep them dumb and distracted MH so they can keep fleecing them right but that undermines the actual deductive potential of the whole society right because if people are dumb and distracted then they’re not going to invent new things they’re not going to push Humanity forward they’re not going to create a lot of wealth basically um and so the wealth that’s you know in the attempt to steal wealth you’re actually undermining aggregate wealth creation and so it’s kind of like this cutting off your nose to spite your face sort of thing not really the reason they do that is because if private wealth independent wealth grows big mhm the private wealth could challenge the status quo of the international Bankers who owned the private Federal Reserve the owners of Chase Bank of America Goldman Sachs City Bank Well Fargo they’re the people that own the Federal Reserve as well right so look at Elon Musk one very rich guy how much of a hair in the noses of these guys has he been by buying X yeah and supporting Trump just one guy if we had five Elon Muses 10 Elon Musk we could actually Challenge and overturn the Federal Reserve Act the root of the power of the satanic system and they don’t want that they rather keep us dumb and weak so that none of us would grow up to be so powerful to be able to challenge them yeah I get that’s the point I’m trying to drive toward is in the attempt to maintain Rel power or dominance over another group you are inhibiting or preventing the absolute growth and power and dominance of the species right right we’re it’s it’s we’re hamstringing ourselves from a a man a hum Humanity standpoint and an attempt to try to make sure this group stays on top of this group but it’s not us we’re I know that’s what I’m saying when I say I’m trying to speak kind of in the yeah correct you can classify these groups different ly I was speaking from the general human standpoint but what I guess what I’m getting at is we are sacrificing the absolute potential of the human race to this relative power game so it’s very [ __ ] stupid is what I’m I’m getting at it’s like if you just stop stealing from and killing people then everyone would be more rich and more prosperous mhm including you right even if you’re not relative even if you’re not the group that’s on top and you’re the group that’s third fourth down the pecking order you too would be more prous you might not be on top of the Heap so it’s like it’s the crabs boiling in water right where the individual crab has no nothing to gain from pulling the crab that’s escaping the pot back into the pot but misery loves company so they do it and there’s this animal impulse Humanity seems to have that we can’t like I don’t know it it we need to wake up to that but these are the people that own the pot and we were the crabs and so they don’t to risk losing the control of the pot but letting any of our crabs get powerful enough to go outside the pot and get them and then eventually free up all the other crap yeah these are satanic evil forces behind Wars all this lgbq satanic nonsense that you know you just cut off your parts somehow you became opposite sex how is that ridiculous stuff gets out there it’s all satanic war against our creator God admin Us in His image you know Satan says no I want to make you weird Satan he has you know horns you know you know Satan is a is lgbq yep he has he has a a penis and breasts oh if you look at his image I have seen that yeah that that’s what it’s all about so that these people are in power they don’t want to lose control so this is much deeper than just money and economics this is spiritual warfare that’s right I think it was it was either Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson that had on their family seal Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God correct and so this this push towards human freedom I like I just can’t I don’t know I don’t understand it at all I have no desire to control another person it’s like I actually want to help another person be as free as possible and therefore they can then they can bring what it what they need to freely Express into the world right their specialization or whatever it may be and then you can enjoy that like this is the beauty of a free market but I I struggle still even after almost you know over four years of doing the show I struggle to put myself into the mental perspective of someone that really wants to control and manipulate other people like that is a very [ __ ] strange impulse to me because you’re a good person you’re a loving person they’re not like that I don’t these people have uh you know they they had you pay a price to get that that’s why they use pedophilia to to control you they have politicians you know Epstein you know work for Israeli mad and so what what they did they had these politicians go there they they video them and then you could use it to Blackmail sure to so that that’s this is so rooted deep but bottom mind is that my focus is more on getting rid of this deception and have America’s not be a slave yeah because once we get that now we can do what you want to do Robert empower the people to have enough money to challenge the status quo of the Federal Reserve corrupt system gotcha what so what were the most important findings of bannister’s Investigation it was whistleblowing Andor investigation right y that what were the most important findings of him that caused him to leave was it just asking that question like where are the laws he found no law that requires the average American in the 50 states to follow income tax one right he uh number two he said that when we sign that 104 form under oath yeah we are given up our right to be silent which is guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment of US Constitution voluntarily under oath yeah he said look when I was a criminal agent if I want to talk to someone about his tax situation I had to read him his right to be silent that you don’t have to talk to me because anything you say to me can and will be used against you in a court of law right and he start thinking what’s the difference of that with a 1040 form right that we tell people you sign under oath you know how come we do that and he said that when he went after individuals in five years he put four people in prison all of them were filers small business owners [ __ ] and the first first thing that they always did a standard was request the targets previously follow 1040 tax confession forms see what is in there to use against them so he said how how do we give up our 50th mem right to be silence so that was the second big finding the third one he found is that the 16th Amendment of the US Constitution which the government claims authorized the federal government to tax people directly like income tax right was never properly ratified and it was not ratified properly however the Supreme Court has said more than once back in early 1900s that the 6th Amendment of the Constitution give not give uh the federal government any new taxing Powers H since the federal government could not tax people directly back in the 1800s MH you know and the 16th Amendment did not change anything there’s no legal justification how does how does income tax work so this is criminality what what a [ __ ] uh how ironic is that the criminals are using criminal law to try to catch people but all you have to do is know the law plead the Fifth and then you don’t have to you don’t give them any attack surface basically you you don’t need to plead nothing you just give them nothing well I’m sorry plead the fifth is that I’m sorry that’s a colloquial way to say invoke the Fifth Amendment don’t say anything just give them no information there’s about 80 million plus non filers right according to iris’s own best estimate who made above the minimum fing requirements MH look at this so the IRS knows you you canot go out 80 million people mhm in fact back in 2016 Robert the Irish management officially decided to leave people who don’t file tax returns alone right and focus on filers who have confessed under oath right with help of the CPO tax attorney right to follow confession form because it’s so easy to pick on that return and say prove that crypto amount of gain you said prove that deduction expensive than you got here and B to proof his knowledge on you to pay that same CPA who got you in trouble in the first place mhm to try to help you out of this mess he got you in who okay so not filing the personal 1040 return is equal to not confessing things you don’t need to confess to the IRS and centralized government what do you tell people that have just been filing their whole lives like is there a statute of limitations like people just stop filing immediately how far back can the IRS go in time like if someone comes to you new today M and they’re like hey I’ve just been doing it the way I thought everyone did it and I file the 1040 every year what do I do now like how do you guide them you just tell them to just stop right now same way as a guy who taking vaccines every year get the flu shot and now here’s about that vaccines are actually a bunch of Lies not good for you what do you do uh you just stop taking more vaccines stop following those 1040 income tax confession forms if you look at your 1040 form for last year look at line 37 M you sign under oath on line 37 they say this is the amount that you oh you signed it you said it on oath without you doing that you will the IRS a big fat zero mhm now if they want to mess with you illegally they have to to create a case against you like they try to do with me and that is so expensive because you have a right to trial to challenge that tax proposal and they have only 31 us tax C judges in America there’s no way these 31 human beings can do taxes you know go up case of 80 million Americans even million nonfathers there’s no way so they they say look we have no choice but to leave them alone and that’s the thing that got to get out to people they will leave you alone if you don’t file you don’t need to be afraid of that as one of my business mentors once told me the job of the boss is to eliminate confusion the best antidote for confusion is access to truth which brings Clarity to business decision-making and thus optimizes the drive toward future business goals over 41,000 businesses have future 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there’s also things you can do to like help get the poison out of the body right people can cleanse the spike proteins and etc etc are there by way of analogy are there similar things people can do to Cle the poison of past filings not really you just do the best job you can with your accountant to do the bean counting of your expenses and deductions and provide it that’s pretty much all you can do but I’m a forward-looking guy yeah I’ll tell people don’t focus on the past that’s done MH focus on now and the future and do not confess anymore that do the Irish money if your account cpay a tax attorney scares you and says don’t listen to these guys you’re going to prison you’re going to be in trouble ask him to go to Freedom’s website M step one follow the law watch the 9 minute video I have on the law 9 Minute only and tell them show me where Freedom LW was wrong show me the law that requires me to file income tax to begin with why should I pay you yeah there’s a saying no man is better than his incentives and if your tax accountant is telling you to keep filing your taxes that’s kind of like the bar bar telling you you need a haircut right it’s like no [ __ ] um they’re not yeah if you know I’m not saying I I don’t this is all new to me right we’re talking about this today obviously I’m very taxation is theft I think it’s morally wrong it’s horrible and all this stuff but I didn’t know that people were doing this I mean this is a whole new thing for me but um you’re definitely not going to get good advice about it from your tax accountant that’s just a CL that’s just a conflict of interest basically um okay we look at the future we mentioned Trump earlier that he’s looking to abolish the IRS perhaps I mean at least that was a an idea that was flirted with before the election I think where do you think the future of federal income tax is going do you think more we’re going to get more people migrating to this 80 million cohort of non-filers what does the future look like in in your view if I have anything to do with Robert my goal has been since 1992 when I started educating myself is to get rid of the income tax altoe by American people waken up and realizing that they’ve been deceived to voluntarily pay this corrupt Empire in Washington DC okay you just got to stop paying them and that will the lack of support by people voluntarily collapse the system from within just like the Communist Soviet Union collapsed in 1991 not from an outside Source bankruptcy but because the corruption of the system and rot from within Ira is such a rotten wasteful inefficient agency they don’t work they are broken from within MH and it just takes a little extra Push by we the American people and a system will collapse for example irss computers are the oldest in the federal government and the Mainframe brain of the irss system is a 1960s cobal Assembly Language technology still mhm since 1980s multiple times they’ve tried to upgrade improve their infrastructure of the it system them mhm they failed every single time and now IRS even stopped giving projection dates of how they’re going to update the system the system cannot be broken any more than a communist Soviet Union could be fixed from inside that g which have tried to do yeah so I just want to push it make sure it happens as soon as possible properly so your goal would be to drive the a average effective tax rate for a citizen in the United States to 0% the tax rate is already zero people just got to realize again people 50 states you don’t have to bond income tax realize that that never applied to you they they use the term us individual income tax yeah and you and I think oh that’s the 50 States United States but in definitions in tax law United States is the District of Colombia right you you thought it was it’s not you what so in the event that we get that let’s say everyone wakes up and like oh I don’t have to file anything explicit tax revenue goes to zero I mean not zero there’s still consumption taxes and the things we mentioned but income tax and the the other big ones estate tax go to zero won’t the federal government just backfill all those gaps by printing War money well like isn’t that what they’ve been doing up until this point is there’s deficit spend right like they collect 4 trillion in taxes or whatever the number is but then they spend 6 S8 trillion and to cover the difference they just print it won’t they just print whatever they need to cover the difference they can because that would utterly destroy the Federal Reserve notes garbage they give us as money and we’ll will expedite Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies become the real money in the world that’s that that’s what they’re running back against they cannot do that but there’s the military budget is so corrupt for example back in 1990s it was audit of the Department of military $2 trillion could not be accounted for by the money meant that was over that was 25 years plus mhm right now the whole uh Medicare uh wasn’t that the day before 911 the Pentagon lost a trillion dollars that’s right the the audit of that whole thing was in a section that was blown away way the report was how convenient exactly how convenient yeah so it we just um we don’t have to so the question was would we print the difference if we lower they won they’ll have they’ll have to cut the government budget yeah they have to fire all these employees that do do anything and stop subsidizing all these corrupt organizations give you an example how corrupt the medical system is my baby was in the hospital for 14 days you know when she was born she was born born dead came back to life we took it there for safety we told the hospital how much we can pay you we need to pay you how much is it cost they would refuse to tell us repeatedly how much it would cost for a baby and we knew if we insisted they would kick us out of the hospital so at the end of the 14 days I go to them and they say oh yeah go downstairs and they got insurance for you mhm I say insurance after the fact mhm I used to sell insurance mhm you can’t do that yeah but let me go see what the scam is all about sure enough the bill was 1.2 million [ __ ] for 14 days for my baby being in in intensive care unit I ask him well what’s the cash price we believe paying cash $100,000 wow so they build a US 1.2 Bill million and the government says it’s too much we’re going to cut down 25 or 50% pay you 800 ,000 600,000 and the and Hospital goes and says you fool wow that and as a bunch of other babies milk money for the for the hospitals and the Pharmaceuticals that’s where the most of the budget of the uh human uh the you know of the wealth and uh in health and human welfare it goes to the pocket of these corrupt medical system the Pharmaceuticals the hospitals who ripped off the taxpayer the people of America m to the government we can get rid of that we can get the military and just fire half the government employees easily we have plenty of money left no shortage wow it is a very radical vision for the future um but yeah I I mean it see again this is one of those things it’s like if you really stop and think about it you’re not consenting to the transaction you’re not consenting to the price to the calculation M at no point did you sign an agreement like an employee agreement like I am an employee of the United States and I will pay some it wouldn’t even be an employee it’d be a customer right you’re a you’re a customer of the slave a slave yeah okay you’re a slave saying master I swear this is how much I have taxable income that’s how much I owe you please don’t audit me go easy on me I don’t have the money to pay my CPA to help him with an audit yeah that they suckered us into being every year give a slavery report on Old because the TV and our accountant CPA tax attorney told us that’s the safe thing to do to have the Irish not mess with you huh what about Arbitrage like people that are moving to PTO Rico to get a 2% flat tax things like that and there’s other people I think that are you know call this multif flag Theory there’s all these different um structures where you can spend certain amount of time in each country and then if you split the time evenly enough you end up with like low to no tax liability what what are your views on that do you think I guess you assume that’s unnecessary because you could just sit here and not do it waste of time and money I know people who did the oh I I if you become a Puerto Rico resident and you there six days in one month you pay zero income tax there why do you have to live in this little tin pot Island Puerto Rico over 6 months to be free you can be free right here in America without having to do any of that rig and roll just stop putting a roll PR on your neck give it to the IRS on that 104 from your sign that you owe the Irish money and stop them withholding on your paycheck for free at Freedom law school.org our website so you mentioned these seven step I mean I assume this is the advice basically if someone comes to you they’re like hey I want to follow your lead you point them to the seven steps right yep and so I’m just going to name these steps and maybe you just elaborate on what they are so step one follow the law no law requires 99% of Americans which would be anyone not in DC I think as you said to file and pay income taxes okay just starting there could you just elaborate on that one a little bit they use the term United States in tax all the time MH every time they use that term United States they’re refering to the corporation not the nation they mean the the District of Columbia the land that the federal government is Sovereign is their own country literally their own country yeah that’s why Jake Lang in one of January Sixers was foure in federal prison without speed trial because the Constitution that guarantees your right to speed trial not in DC doesn’t apply to DC wow that’s what they could do it to him so uh that’s the first thing for people to understand is the law it is all based upon us government’s official legal websites irs’s website the 1040 form instructions US Treasury regulation federal laws published by House of Representatives and US Supreme Court no la Authority we accept except those highest sources of Law and they can see in nine minutes on step one at Freedom law.org that’s a starting point right there H step two stop filing income tax forms I guess that one’s pretty straightforward we covered that because you you confess you the IRS money when you never ow the IRS anything so stop confessing on slavery 10 4 form me with the Irish money right so there’s no audit if there’s no tax return got it so Fifth Amendment yeah because there’s no law required to do it in the first place right it’s remarkably simple step three realize the IRS operates on deception and Bluff right over 99.9% IRS is Bluff for non-filers MH there’s about 80 million plus nonfallers at cor Gus’s own best estimates MH iris is such a broker agency they do not have enough agents to answer the phone calls of people who filed didn’t pay the money I want to make a payment plan that’s a customer ready to pay you and you could even take that guy’s call how you going to make a case against a non-fa that gives him the right to full-blown trial in tax court and appeal you just you know it doesn’t make sense you’re going to go where the easy money is right we sucker people deceive them and sign got 104 confession form them not much easier but even then Iris you know doesn’t have enough people so this myth that they’re perpetuated in the media through your coun and taxx attorneys that if you don’t file you go to tax prison they go take your bank account paycheck and everything you got is just a myth and in step three I give people facts that from gma’s own reports everything that they they’re just The Wizard of Oz and we were all Dorothy and her friends afraid of The Wizard of Oz that the media made up for the American people of the IRS H so by signing that 1040 document you’re making yourself the low hanging fruit for the IRS yeah especially crypto investors MH because it is so difficult to find a good accountant to find the cost basis and the profit of which crypto did I buy as sale how much of this much I bought here and this much here to sell this Bitcoin it’s just so complex you know and so in fact for crypto investors there’s a trap on the 1040 from m called the crypto question used to be laid out in a 1040 form now it’s at a front page below your name and address basically did you sell any crypto in any way yes or no tell us under oath either way you did yourself in the question is did you sell any crypto is that anyway yeah yeah anyway dispose sell exchange any crypto that would be taxable in irs’s you if you say yes to that question guess what congratulations you just put yourself an IRS audit list they know there’s a lots of money made being made could be made by auditing crypto investors crypto owners the last couple years Bitcoin is gone crazy they just getting ready just let’s go get some of those crypto guys and keep them in line so when you say yes you put yourself on that list that’s why it’s on a front page they can putet put you on a list if you say no you lied under oath now and he can go to prison for N9 years wow so what do you do you damn if you do you damn if you don’t simple op out don’t op out don’t sign and send the IR that t wa from to begin with and they will leave you alone why aren’t why aren’t all the super rich doing this they don’t know about Freedom law school sorry I hate to say this because you see but I mean like the the the tax liability that a guy like Elon or Bezos incurs year-over-year it’s like holy [ __ ] they could save you know astronomical amounts of money no one else on planet Earth has advised them like hey guys if you just stop signing these forms because you can save billions there are tax attorne that’s hard to believe that’s hard for me to believe because the tax attorneys they’re tax attorneys and CPA uhuh control them and they say listen to me I’m the medical doctor don’t listen to those antivaxers get the JB like I say the whole medical community knows medicine you know listen to us experts get the JB I’m the CPA tax attorney don’t listen to these tax protesters they go to prison huh it’s literally that simple even if they come across us to begin with so it’s an incentive trap yeah these guys make money sure the accountant CPS want you to stop filing taxes obviously the barber doesn’t want you to stop getting haircuts yeah huh okay um maybe that’s why my barber never advises me to grow my hair out if you’re listening to this podcast you probably get it you get that Bitcoin upends everything that state sponsored schools teach us about money for those who get the importance of Bitcoin it is important that we have a smart way to buy and hold Bitcoin my friends at coin bits the oldest 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our victories I think hour by hour you’re referring to Freedom law school here yes tell me about that well not only I’ve not gone to tax prison or paid Iris even $1 or filed with the iris for over 30 years but for over 23 years I helped scores of people to stop fing and paying income taxes and none of them who came to me clean and stayed with me has ever gone to tax prison nor had their paycheck their bank account levied by the IRS with the crypto real estate or any property taken by the IRS and I got many victories on our website I actually zero do taxes for many people one of the biggest victories I got is a guy who came to me and IR puts $4.6 million tax on him totally legally we went to court and irs’s own lawyer Conceited the case and zeroed out the whole thing so I got many of these victories on our website for people to see you don’t have to be afraid of them and it was all done without an attorney so maybe this would be a useful point to try and answer my earlier question about the cost benefit of this approach that guy that owed you said 4.6 million yes IRS said he owed how much did he spend to get that liability zeroed out uh I think he paid me about alog together about maybe uh I think1 $15,000 at most that’s it well that’s a pretty good cost benefit ratio yeah uh okay step five question authority yeah exclamation point well we have these petitions Robert on our website for Congress to see that’s quote the law that the average American does not have to pay federal income tax Medicare tax FICA social secur taxes self-employment taxes no 1099s no W2 forms no W4 forms none of that stuff and the law is at is listed and attached and even highlighted at the back the petitions so easy for the congressman to see MH we invite everybody to for free print out sign and mail him to your three congressmen US senators too and one House member and the letter say look looks like the government is just scamming us the IRS Management Department of Injustice lawyers management and even some crooked judges now either I’m right about this or wrong if I’m right on this stop them because you can’t you have the power to fire all these guys and they have oversight of the other two branches of government if I’m wrong please show me clearly specifically and I will gladly pay the IRS my fair share of taxes and this has been done thousands and thousands of time by our students and people on their own for free how many times you think a congressman has risen us back and been able to show us we wrong about any of this what not once so you said earlier like you’re very future focused do CLI but clients obviously come to you with like the guy that already had the liability so how do you I guess if they already have a liability assessed by the IRS then you go to court and fight it but your advice from the point what whenever they didn’t file last basically the strategy is very simple just stop filing but we’ll fight for whatever you may have filed previously but from this point forward don’t file is that correct correct okay and what happened that that guy that $4.6 billion guy yeah um yeah he hadn’t filed Iris actually used to come after non-filers to some degree from 1960s to 2011 for about 50 years they did come out the non-filers sometimes then they decided the juice is not worth a squeeze then IRS started an internal collapse oh in 2010 Republicans stopped fighing the IRS because they were doing they they U uh they were not giving uh conservative groups these tax exemption status to the organizations so Congress punished the iris but not giv them money right starv them yeah and the inertia of corruption waste takes hold over time even more so communism doesn’t work these are communists in the government yeah so the Irish was forced in 2012 to gradually stop leaving not f alone so I used to help a lot of people who came to me as a non-filers to help him out like most of my efforts were done on those guys yeah but I noticed the change in 2012 less and less people are coming to me and after 2016 they like what I’m not helping people who are not following income tax I got I’m going to get focused on getting new people to stop being slaves MH so this confirms the IRS has collapsed like the Soviet Union as unbelievable as it sounds that as a fact people can go on our website f.org and see it all from the US Treasury aitor own reports step six join the restore Freedom plan what is that well I inv about everybody to stop funing the Deep State the crooks in DC don’t follow income tax and IRS leaves non fils alone mhm however certain number of people especially people are middle class or above you know they say well paymon um I would feel much better sleep better at night if I had you with over 30 years of background of success in my corner mhm can you back me up mhm so and the answer is yes in the mold of America’s standing fathers are created that restore Freedom plan because that’s all our our goal my goal has always been political spiritual about having America Be Live and Let Live and love and let love country that was meant to be okay money was to me was always still the secondary so the fing fathers what do they do they pitched in to George Washington’s Army and Benjamin Franklin told the founding fathers Gentlemen We Shall hang together or we shall surely hang separately and they hung together and it worked and they made the colonies free states so we need more patriotic Freedom loving Americans Libertarians join in just pitch in 30% of what you would have paid the IRS into this fund and we we do this the more of us do that the better and anything that comes up we fight for you we do all the work for you okay you get to keep down 70% and be completely safe no s for reforms needs to do whatsoever like I said we do all the fighting you will not go to prison because these petitions show you a good intent to follow the law with that in the record that you did that petitions the government lawyers will not want to put you in a trial at all so you w you won’t go to prison and I’ll pay the attorneys and if they do civil cases that come after you we do all the work okay the law of writing of legal work for you and even if you were to lose they take your money 10,000 10 million whatever it is whatever Irish took from you we’ll reimburse that so you got nothing to lose now we got all this money to fund the Freedom Movement fund Freedom politician like Ron Paul to get elected yeah I was with Ron Paul way back in 1990s I was I supported him you know we be people like him like Thomas Massie right now he’s our best man in Congress you know we need to do Freedom lawsuits and freedom news platforms that are getting the truth to American people so how are we going to do that with all the billions that give into swamp comeing back to the Freedom Movement to fund this peaceful War for Freedom got it so that is like a Community Savings pool that’s being freedom freedom fund right but but then those people are members that are then able to draw against that pool should they have some type of tax litigation situation is that am I understanding that correctly not exactly we do all the work for that and we wi we beat them I’ve beaten the IRS many many times if they come after our students but they don’t anyways they leaving nonf followers alone I tell people look you don’t need to join you can stop following stop withholding the paycheck they will leave you alone M but if you sleep better at night and or you have it in your heart yeah to put to fund the Freedom Movement yeah we need money bottom line we need money to make it work right then J restore Freedom plan so we can fund all the freedom activities as well as protect you at the same time interesting if people aren’t part of that and they join later does that I mean if someone comes to you with a liability an IRS tax liability You’re Still For Hire to fight that is that correct if I I help people all the time okay even if they’re not part of the freedom they not part but got join our program then I help them with the previous problem they got got okay step seven love and spread the truth you just heard this eye openening information that he’s blowing your head gaskets like whoa this is great news didn’t know was even possible well thanks for Robert now you know about it well I I want to State very clearly I actually don’t endorse you or your work I this is the first I’m really learning about it um it does sound too good to be true to me um but I don’t know enough to refute any of it so I hope it works and I hope you were successful in your mission because I as I’ve beaten the drum repeatedly taxation is stuffed inflation is taxation inflation is legal counterfeiting counterfeiting is Criminal inflation like all these things are just the most horrendous source of socioeconomic problems in the world so far as I can tell so anything that helps fight that push it back get rid of it I’m all for it that said the specifics presented here today I have no idea this is all you and uh that’s right take you at your word no don’t take me out my word what I invite you to do is don’t make the mistake I made when I first heard about Bitcoin about I think about nine years ago do your own research and I didn’t do my own research on bitcoin because I was a gold bug Ron Paul gold buug you know real money gold like my friend Ed Griffin has been telling all the stuff I didn’t check into Bitcoin yeah okay didn’t do my homework when I first heard about it but four years ago so I did I said I’m going to really find out about this thing and I watched a few videos explain Bitcoin for dummies I said okay okay yeah I got it so now that you heard this it’s on you to take a little time and do your homework so what that’s why my website FW school.org I put videos where everything you see is from us governments official legal websites and reports mhm as you drive around stuck in your car dead time listen to the videos as you watch the road and when you get back to work or home at lunch or dinner played one more time on your smartphone and verify what I’m telling you is US government’s official legal website you have to do your own homework on this you should not rely on my word or anybody else’s word you have to read the governments official legal websites to verify it for yourself then you’ll be free very consistent with the Bitcoin ethos of don’t trust verify so I do appreciate that yep um I I mean yeah it’s kind of mind-blowing honestly it’s so like so unbelievably simple and I don’t what I can’t get my head around is why I mean I understand the incentive trap you described but I can’t understand why there’s not at least some handful of people in the Super Rich class taking advantage of this because they are the ones that have the most to gain they’re the ones shelling out the most in terms of tax liability payments so that one I still struggle with but um it’s definitely interesting I mean the argument too is often wielded against Bitcoin that it’s it’s well it’s complicated but it’s the value proposition of Bitcoin is incredibly simple right it’s just money that nobody can print like done um and so sometimes the argument is wielded at Bitcoin that it’s too good to be true or too simple like what else what am I missing so maybe this is another one of those cases I don’t really know but this has certainly been uh an interesting conversation nonetheless uh do you have any parting words of wisdom and if not uh whether you do or not please let people know where they can find out more about you or your work well as you said like Bitcoin you know the thing is it’s a famous saying in the Bible also that people suffer for a lack of knowledge ignorance kills and the solution is seek the truth and the truth shall set you free the key term is seek you must seek the truth yeah if you not to hear something that challenges your thing yeah you will not find out when I back in 1992 I heard about income tax on a talk radio and handle on the law uh on a KFI mhm and radio I thought this is crazy but why would people pay income tax if there’s no law mhm so I called the lady and she said I’ll prove it to you with $40 you got to pay to attend the seminar I said $40 I was single and poor 29 and I said that’s a lot of money like 250 today’s money just to be shown that I said I’m sure you got something to sell and I’ll be Happ to pay you once you prove it to me do it for free but no she said you must pay but if you don’t think you’re convinced in your opinion that the law says that not opinion not philosophy I’ll reimburse you $40 with that I told her you AR lady I’m coming my word my judgments she said yes I went there and I she gladly earned her $40 because she freed me for the rest of my life life so here you don’t have to pay me anything or anybody all you got to do is to make the time as you drive around because I know you don’t have time to sit around and watch the videos nobody does you do it as you’re driving around to and from work or errands listen to it at Freedom law school.org and you’ll be free on your own for free or if you want with a 100% guarantee restore freom plant either way it’s up to you to make it happen for you and your family pmon thank you so much for this insightful interesting conversation my pleasure thanks for having me Robert thanks for coming thanks for watching if you enjoyed this episode click here to find more just like it and here to find our most recent episode also make sure to like this video to help shine light on the corruption of money and be sure to subscribe to this channel to stay connected
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