How to Fix America’s Healthcare Crisis | Dr. Casey Means & Calley Means

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we need to have not an incremental but a fundamental rethink of how we see medicine it’s not about all these siloed conditions to focus this $4 trillion Arrow of American Health care costs towards the real problem at the center of the cell and if we did that we would have such rapid empowering healing for kids ourselves and our parents Casey means MD is a Stanford trained physician and co-founder of levels a health technology company with the mission of reversing the world’s metabolic Health crisis CI meanss is the founder of true Med a company that issues prescriptions for food and exercise enabling tax-free spending on items promoting Health he’s also the co-author of the incredible new book good energy with his sister Dr Casey means this amazing book I’ve got a early copy and I’m so grateful this is one of my favorite books in recent years not just this year but in recent years very very special the way that you articulated things I had so many aha moments thinking about things and I shared this with you thinking about things that I know pretty well and you said it in a in a way that made me just think like I never thought about it like that and it’s like a whole new revelation for me and you started this book off by sharing the story of your mom and the all too common experience in the US Healthcare System so can you talk a little bit about that absolutely I think that my mother’s story is something that almost every American can see themselves in Unfortunately today she got caught up in the chronic disease pill Mill treadmill of so many Americans and while she was such a diligent patient and doing everything her doctors said her cells never actually healed so when she was in her 40s she had me and she had gained like 75 lbs during pregnancy I was a 12b baby everyone congratulated her for having a huge baby it was like oh my gosh this is amazing she went on to have trouble losing the baby weight she had a tough menopause in her 50s high cholesterol started cholesterol started going up the doctor said very very common for women your age here’s a Statin few years later blood pressure started going up again super super common here’s an Ace inhibitor few years later blood sugar started going up doctor again said this is you know pre-diabetes it’s a pre- disease there’s nothing really to worry about right now here’s metformin you know metformin’s scribed 90 million times a year this is very very common and then she’s 72 years old and she’s taking a hike with my dad near their house in Northern California and she has a really sharp pain in her stomach and that’s unusual for her it lasts a day or two so she goes to her primary care doctor and they order a CT scan because it’s pretty out of the blue for her to have a few days of stomach pain and the next day she gets a text message to her cell phone that tells her the results of the CT scan which was stage four metastatic pancreatic cancer and 13 days later she was gone she died and I think that you know what really struck Us in that experience was her oncologist who was at Stanford um at the time of her death she was seeing doctors at Stanford paloalto Medical Foundation Mayo the best hospitals in the world and the doctor looked Us in the eye and looked at our family and said we are so sorry this is so unlucky and both cie and I kind of it made us scratch our heads a little bit because you know we knew a little bit about metabolic Health at this point and it really makes you question like was this unlucky and through a different lens could this have been actually entirely predictable and I think through our conventional Western View a very Silo based reactive whacko Medicine of course it was unlucky it looks so out of the blue oh my gosh you had all these diseases you had the big baby you had you know tough menopause these uh chronic high cholesterol high blood pressure high high blood sugar and then Cancer all these random things God how unlucky but the truth is and the message that c and I are here on this planet to share with the world is that it was not unlucky it was totally predictable but that requires a totally different lens of looking at the body it requires a good energy lens a metabolic framework looking at the connections between diseases and the connections of the physiology that’s linking almost every cause of disease and suffering and premature death in our in our in our American Western world today and that is fundamentally metabolic dysfunction and through that lens that connected lens of looking at the connecting Pathways between all these different diseases the big baby that I was 12 pounds literally fetal macrosomia which is a huge predictor of metabolic disease in both the child and the mother having trouble losing the baby weight insulin resistance extreme menopausal symptoms high cholesterol blood pressure blood sugar basically the Hallmarks of metabolic syndrome and then cancer which we are now learning is essentially a metabolically driven disease through that lens it’s super super predictable and so what cie and I want to share and what we’re here to share is that there are ways to look at the body differently in a much more empowered way to understand our own metabolic Health improve it and optimize it and hopefully help others not go through the same um pain that we went through of having to lose a parent prematurely uh to cancer yeah and that pain is truly is becoming an empowerment for so many of us because even reading that story just hit me different and of course just knowing you guys and seeing it from afar the experience that you guys went through and to see what you’ve created together right now is very special and your respective expertise collaborating on this project is is really something remarkable and cie if you could you know you’re really looking at how do we actually implement this stuff right how do we actually create some social change Casey so brilliantly is unpacking how all of this is happening in our bodies which we’re going to get to I’m so excited to ask you these questions but I’m just curious from your perspective you know the Catalyst for you what what was the driving force for you to work on this project so we grew up in Washington DC and I’ve been you know since I was a little kid wanted to devote my life to public policy to American competitiveness to you know attacking the biggest public policy issues and you know worked for campaigns worked for food and Pharma and you know worked on startups but a couple of Life events including the death of our mom obviously led me to believe that what Casey’s describing that micro level of our mom being on the chronic disease tread treadmill treating things in silos instead of the root cause um it’s the biggest issue in the country it’s the it’s the most important existential thing that we Face we’re not at our best right now in America and it’s uniquely in America the stats I just want to say again let’s just take a minute to just recognize the Monumental nature of you know by some measure 66% of American adults being pre-diabetic 33% of of um young adults being pre-diabetic uh 50% of teens being overweight or obese 25% up to 25% of young adults having fatty liver disease like you know it’s obviously a disaster when it gets to adults but this unprecedented statistics with children there’s something evil happening this is not personal choice this is not you know people making the wrong decisions there’s not a kind of systemic nature of kids wanting to be sick and depressed you know uh 15% of high school seniors being on Aderall 40% of high school seniors qualifying as having a mental health disorder SSR SSRI anti-depressant rates doubling in the past seven years among high schoolers uh stens being uh dled out like candy now in high schools I mean this isn’t something parents want it’s something kids want so I just want to say that very plainly like we debate and I think almost by design a bunch of trivia and a bunch of distracting issues on the news and on podcast and the public debate this absolute crippling of our human capital particularly starting at kids um is is a is is just the key issue we’re not going to be competitive as a country if we continue getting sicker fatter more depressed and importantly more infertile um actually rates of infertility are are are absolutely PCOS I think just monumentally going up uh sperm count going down we’re losing our ability to reproduce so if we recognize that and kind of recognize in the micro you know instance we had with our mom there’s two elements here and this is what the book and this is I think where Casey and I really come together there’s it has to be a revolution of personal power and I think this book contains the best personal empowerment tips ever put to paper thanks to Casey’s genius and I know we’ll get into that but I want to be very clear there’s got to be systemic change you know going back and tying back my work for food and Pharma you’ve got the largest industry in the country stacked against us the healthcare industry is the largest and fastest growing industry in America and fundamentally just not emot emotionally not uh conspiratorially I’m just going to say as a statement of economic fact that industry is incentivized for kids to get sick and get sick earlier because there’s no better profit uh generating Force than chronic disease in the history of American capitalism when a kid gets on a Statin or or is obese and gets on OIC or has high cholesterol or high blood um sugar and gets on metform and any of these chronic diseases right they’re going to just start keep racking them up the the drug by its very definition says take this for life you know and that’s your cure they’re not addressing the root cause a child that has one of these chronic conditions reversing their underlying metabolic function is very disruptive and takes them off those roles but getting on the chronic disease treadmill you know is very profitable so we’ve got to attack those incentives um and and and that’s what I’m personally working on I’m working on with activist investor billionaires on lawsuits against food companies I’m working with a nonprofit to prepare executive orders to actually attack these incentives my company TR met is actually writing doctor’s notes to actually enable Americans to use a as a dollar for food exercise uh root cause interventions which are actually entitled to do the IRS um is attacking us but but it’s it’s legal and I want every American know they can use their HSA FSA dollars for root cause interventions so you got to just attack the money and and that’s what I’m really focused on yeah yeah that’s what I love about you too it’s just that’s that’s a real that’s a real application of this because I’ve been talking about this for years but not thinking through that lens of like what to do about it and you know there’s a lot of like last ditch efforts by some of these processed food companies going on right now like Kelloggs for example and you know framing it you know cereal for dinner and that kind of thing which I’ve done many a day you know living in abject poverty in Ferguson Missouri and for them to reach because their profits are getting cut into they’re not just going to sit back and go quietly but also they’re going to chase the opportunity and so if we’re not framing it in a way where these very very powerful entities can profit as well from social change from a healthier Society it’s going to be a cred it’s going to be a war yeah I don’t want to mince words um and I think these podcasts have changed my life by folks coming on here talking about personal empowerment steps we can take but unless we change from the top down I’m worried about our country you can’t I think continue to exist when the largest Industries in the country are fundamentally rigging our system and incentivizing trillions of dollars for us to be sick in Kellog’s case they have lobbied you know to have Ultra processed food on snap and you know food stamps uh they have spent tens of millions of dollars on Research to say that you know uh Lucky Charms literally are healthy and then get them in schools so they’ve kind of rigged the system rigged the research P those push those in and then they’ve lobbied and have ingredients in those foods that aren’t available in any other food in any other country they literally change the ingredients because of the rig system and the research that they funded then they run ads on children’s television as you said saying cereal for dinner so in that case you know we’re working with um some leading investors uh Elon Musk lawyer we just announced two days ago um we filed an activist demand letter uh we’re doing an activist investor um uh movement against them and we’re demanding uh that they change in this particular case their food dies that are basically essentially banned in every other country and that they’re marketing to us kids we’ve got to have specific issues like that and I will say there’s a coalition of folks forming that are using the legal system using the financial system Bill Amman just expressed support for this effort um using the public policy system these institutions have been rigged against us I don’t think Americans are trying to be sick um but something I’ve learned from case that’s a huge impact for me is that’s how doctors are trained doctors are trained that the American patient is lazy that they’re going to make the bad decisions and then they profit from cleaning up the mess they’re not talking about the underlying root causes of the incentives that have led us to get sick which is that we’ve subsidized addictive poisonous food that we recommend it frankly and then all the healthcare industry makes money from chronic disease management not underlying root cause the the central point of this book this book for me is a stake in the ground saying we need to have not an incremental but a fundamental rethink of how we see medicine it’s not about all these siloed conditions 90% of medical costs uh nine out of 10 causes of us death are tied to the same thing metabolic dysfunction but that’s not how doctors are trained that’s not what we’re talking about you’ve got to change that from the personal empowerment standpoint also from the legal and public policy standpoint that’s our mission yeah you know there’s a ton of red flags that would come up if people are just observing however there are some loopholes you know we think about an aging population right our lifespan has supposedly been longer course recently that is reversed but it has been getting getting longer in recent decades and so you you would assume there’s going to be higher rates of chronic illness but and this is the red flag that you brought up let’s look at what’s happening with our kids this is incredibly abnormal and this reminds me of the Nelson Mandela quote that there can be no Keener revelation of a society Soul than the way in which it treats its children and getting to that root cause and that’s what you’re addressing so beautifully in this book like never before you are addressing that many of these epidemics of chronic disease are not actually diseases in the way that we would superficially look at them these are actually adaptations and these adaptations are driven by what’s happening with our mitochondria now this is something of course we hear about in high school biology class but you break this down in a way that really makes sense that this is the place to focus if we’re talking about healing if we’re talking about having re true good health we’re talking about the health of our mitochondria and good energy so let’s talk a little bit about this whole scenario with the mitochondria absolutely so I would say at the highest level our chronic disease epidemic is representing a true dimming of the life force of our population and that goes directly back to our mitochondria because the mitochondria is how we produce energy in the body and it’s so simple actually when you think of about mitochondria like ignore the KB cycle on and all of that we eat 70 metric tons of food in our lifetime and metabolism is how we convert that food energy into human energy to power our cells ultimately bubble up into powering our lives and right now that process of converting food energy to human energy is broken in 93% of American adults which is the number that the most recent research from the American College of Cardiology is saying that that many people have uh suboptimal metabolism so this Divine beautiful process of taking the external world food the environment Cosmos potential energy transforming it through our body through the center of our cells to create a currency of energy that essentially is what pays for every chemical reaction that happens in the body what is our life really we are 37 plus trillion cells and each of those cells is like a little Factory a little machine a little city and each one of those 37 trillion cells is doing trillions of chemical reactions per day and every single one requires something to pay for that that is the energy that the mitochondria makes by converting food energy to human energy that process is now broken so we have underpowered cells and what is our life it’s the bubbling up of all of those chemical reactions and right now we’re not able to do that properly and that is because our modern industrial Western environment that has changed so drastically over the past 50 to 100 years is synergistically on every single level hurting the mitochondria blocking that flow of cosmic potential energy in the form of food to human energy to power our lives so what are we we are underpowered machines sputtering along to do our work so the question is well how would this one fundamental dysfunction of mitochondrial dysfunction be leading to all of the different diseases that we know are related to metabolic dysfunction from things that are sort of early signs like depression anxiety gas out infertility erectile dysfunction brain fog to or migraine pain to the things that are really going to kill us more quickly like type 2 diabetes and Alzheimer’s dementia and CA cancer and fatty liver disease and stroke and heart disease all of those are on the metabolic Spectrum we now know and the reason that this one fundamental dysfunction can lead to all these branches of the tree is also quite simple we have 200 plus cell types in the body we come from one cell but that that differentiates into 200 cell types we have liver cells we have a bunch of different brain cells we have aarian Thea cells we have endothelial cells of the retina you know we have all these different cells and underpowering in different cell types looks like different diseases but our system our Silo based system based on fragmentation and disconnection 42 medical Subs Specialties really fragmentation is built into the way we even look at the body it sees those diseases and it describes them by their symptoms and what we’re asking is for a different view to actually look at the underlying physiology that’s leading to those symptoms and recognizing that it’s really fundamental and the reason we’re we have all these different diseases is because this fundamental process is showing up in all these different parts of the body now what is so profitable but illogical is to treat each of those diseases as different things and to totally ignore the true healing which has to happen inside the cell and there is no medication that fixes mitochondrial dysfunction there is certainly no surgery that fixes mitochondrial dysfunction this is why I left being a surgeon because I recognized that fundamentally a lot of the conditions I was treating were rooted in a problem inside the cell and you cannot operate there we need to fix that mitochondria by taking away the environmental factors that are energistically damaging it and from the research which we outline in the book very clearly these environmental changes that are hurting the mitochondria synergistically are across the vectors of food our Ultra processed micronutrient depleted diet covered in toxic pesticides sleep our sedentary Behavior the movement Vector The Chronic low-grade stress that we’re all dealing with from having the pain and suffering of 8 billion people being streamed to a phone in our hand all the time the environmental toxins that are surrounding us 80,000 synthetic toxins that have entered our food water air and homes in the past 50 years our new modern relationship with light that’s totally messing up our circadian rhythms this artificial light 24 hours a day and lastly temperature our Thermon neutral existence where we’re sort of always at 72 degrees and never getting that sort of energetic stimulus of hot or cold which is actually an amazing stimulus for our CS to do better metabolic work so across all these vectors of modernity we’re cystically damaging this pressure part of our cell that converts potential cosmic energy to human energy to help us reach our highest purpose and health and that is what we need to do as humans is understand first of all there’s really two things we need to do one we all need to take stock of where we are on the metabolic Spectrum we need to understand our own metabolic Health which the health system is not going to help you with because it doesn’t even understand this so we need to understand our own metabolic health and then we need to take stock of our lives and what is hurting our metabolic processes and work to improve them and that really needs to be the foundation of how we approach Health as individuals and as a system and this is really our call to action for both people the system and policy makers to focus this for trillion doll Arrow of American Health care costs towards the real problem at the center of the cell and if we did that we would have such rapid empowering healing for kids ourselves and our parents I just I just G to add on there’s a lie being propagated in the past 50 years that the reasons we’re getting sicker you know more depressed more infertile are siloed the siloing of American Health um has been an absolute disaster what Casey just described is a more scientific explanation of the root cause of chronic disease I think it’s safe to say than it’s learned at Stanford med school or Harvard Med School where they literally treat you from day one and train you from day one that heart sees a stat deficiency that you know diabetes and pre-diabetes is a metform deficiency that depression is an SSR deficiency and that’s not really even a joke you we trace the uh the cours workk at medical schools at leading medical schools it’s 80% 90% pharmacology there’s not not even a class on nutrition in most cases um you mentioned this important statistic about the Miracles of the medical system and life expens we attack that in the book because we’ve been the staunchest offenders of the medical system for most of our lives right you know defending Pharma defending Health Care working up the ladder of the system it’s been a process to unpack this but it’s very important the system has been a miracle and life expectancy has increased because of acute solves for acute issues that were going to kill you right away chronic disease management has been a scandal and it is hurt life expectancy Peter Tia pointed out in his book that if you control for chronic diseases life expectancy has actually hasn’t increase in the past 100 years despite trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars of annual investment um we have to get our heads around this the medical system very explicitly took trust and gendered after World War II when all of medicine was on acute things emergency surgical procedures antibiotics which helped to win World War II um you know that that’s you were in and out you took a pill for a week the first chronic disease treatment was in the late 1950s the birth control pill at that time almost 0% of medical spinning was on chronic disease management chronic disease management you know diabetes heart disease kidney disease respiratory illness that was outside the doctor’s office they saw though with the birth control pill the first time you could take the pill for months or years and now today 90 plus per of medical spending is chronic disease it’s gone from 0% to over 90% because it’s recurring Revenue so the massive mistake is bringing chronic disease into the doctor’s office which has exploded the size of the health industry but actually led to declining Health outcomes I’ll say this my opinion is very I’ll say very clearly If you eliminate chronic disease research uh you know and and frankly nutrition research this this exploding industry the bulk of healthcare we’d be a healthier country chronic disease and the medicalization of chronic disease has actually caused negative Health impacts and we’ve got to be clear on that something Cy and I laugh about is you just step back and kind of look at some of these realities the more money we spend on healthare the sicker we’re getting the more nutrition and fitness research that we publish the sicker we’re getting the more we specialize in health care and literally invent new medical and surgical subp Specialties the sicker we’re getting in America you got to step back and scratch your head a little bit if the more we’re spending and the more we’re investing the sicker we’re getting maybe we’re focusing on the wrong problem maybe we have the wrong approach and you know you look at some of the rhetoric that’s coming out of the system like trust the science and while I’m on PubMed every single day and there are literally hundreds if not thousands of scientific references in this book you have to think about like what is the subtext of that statement trust the science the subtext is that you should not trust yourself and this is really where the health care conversation has gone very very dark because let’s look at the world we are the only species with PubMed and experts and we are the only species with a chronic disease and obesity epidemic and so we’re being told to trust the science and not actually trust our body awareness our deep internal knowing our hunger cues and in doing so we have become the sickest nation in the history of the world so this is not to say don’t read scientific literature obviously but I think where we’re lost is that we’ve asked people to be absolutely divorced from their common sense and this is a huge huge problem because we are miraculous incredible beings with the the biggest brains of of any species on planet Earth like we we do know how to eat properly we do know what’s right for us and our families and we have been told to abjectly ignore that have been infantilized and patronized to think that that’s a problem and we think that that is such a huge huge problem with where culture and Society is going it’s a spiritual crisis yeah you know this is it’s so crazy when you you laid it out so bluntly we have a cellular and environmental mismatch yes period you know our bodies know what to do our brains know what to do we’ve evolved in a certain way we would just be able to go to sleep why why do we have you know 100 million people who are chronically sleep prived you know all of these is issues these are newly invented invented issues exactly and as you just shared this is just really unfolded the last 50 60 70 years and really in the last 30 to 40 years it’s become just precipitously high now just like exponentially growing and I want to unpack this because this is one of the coolest Parts about your work and about this new book is that you’re detailing what these Miss matches are and so we gave an introduction of the role and importance of paying attention to our mitochondria and you shared you you you ran through some of these because you’re here with me we’re going to dig into them a little bit more and these mismatches you start off by talking about chronic overnutrition being one of the things hindering our body’s mitochondria let’s talk about that what is that one of my favorite topics so we cie alluded to this which is that if we actually did less nutrition research we’d probably be healthier and I think there’s honestly something to that because over 80% of Americans are confused about nutrition literally confused about nutrition it makes them doubt their choices and this is the face of more nutrition research being done so I think we have to step back and we have to really think about eating as a matching problem we have these trillions and trillions of cells and those cells are 100% built from food and are in many ways the function of those cells is dictated by food food is molecular information and if the molecular information we put into the body matches the needs of the cells fundamentally we’re going to get closer to health it’s one of the biggest biggest foundations and so the reason that processed food is such a problem and really a such a root cause of our chronic disease epidemic is because this molecular information is toally confusing our bodies it’s not what our bodies are expecting and it’s essentially giving them mixed messages it’s not giving them what they need and so what that’s doing is our in the Brilliance of our biology the cells are realizing they’re not getting their needs met and it’s driving us to literally eat ourselves to death because we’re not actually giving the cells what they fundamentally want expect and need and therefore our internal wisdom is going to drive us to eat so much that we literally eat ourselves into the grave which is what is happening in America right now and you know if you really step back from the more clinical n nutrition research and actually come back to like molecular biology like what do our cells actually need this is how we developed the the good energy eating plan which is not based on any dietary Dogma there’s no keto or vegan or paleo it’s about what molecules do your cells need to function properly and how do you get those to them and so we just have eight simple strategies essentially it’s five things to put into your meals and three things to take out of your meals to essentially give your C what they need and those five things are healthy protein omega-3 fats antioxidants a probiotic source and fiber and that’s not exhaustive but if you focus on getting those five things in every single meal you are going to be giving your body so much of what it needs and the three things that we recommend taking out are the ultr processed grains Ultra processed sugars and ultr processed industrial seed oils which do nothing to meet the needs of your cells and essentially are empty calories that prevent you from actually getting your body what they need on top of this we of course have an industrial agriculture system that has killed the soil in our country and the soil is what injects healthful nutrients into our food and so a huge swath of that 70 metric tons of food we’re eating In Our Lifetime is depleted because of our soil and it’s depleted because of our ultr processing ultr processed food now makes up about 68% of the calories we’re consuming now let’s make this really relevant to people because a lot of what people really really care about is obviously weight like weight is so important to people and something that’s so fascinating to me is in this in this this matching problem conversation about food is that we have cells literally in our body that are nutrient sensing cells all throughout the gut that can pick up nutrient from the food and in response to seeing the nutrients they expect they will produce hormones and some of those hormones are satiety hormones the hormones that tell you you are full you do not need to eat more and one of those hormones that the L cells of the gut and nutrient sensing cell of the gut makes is glp1 and of course there’s this huge conversation happening right now about OIC and you know it’s a fever pitch around these drugs and the message that I want to get across to people is you can literally make your own OIC but the way that you make your own glp1 at higher levels is you have to give the body the nutrients that allow the nutrient sensing cells of the gut to make that glp1 and it’s really quite simple the things that uh stimulate those cells of the gut to make that glp1 are found in healthful Whole Foods it’s protein and amino acids it’s short chain fatty acids that are made when the micro biome converts fiber into short chain fatty acids so if you’re eating a protein-rich fiber rich diet and healthy fats they’ve shown that avocado and eggs can stimulate glp1 you’re going to make those satiety hormones the body has Exquisite capability of getting you to feel full and to have satiety but it requires that you give it the molecular information in your food to tell it to make those hormones and this is why unprocessed diet is so so so important um so overall you know the the point we’re trying to make in the book is that all this diet War all the diet Wars that we’re seeing out there are designed to benefit industry not humans it’s so much simpler than we have been led to believe we need to re eat real unprocessed food that meets the need needs of the cells and one of the ways we can do that is to make sure we’re maximizing antioxidants protein omega-3 fats probiotics and fiber in our diet and that can really apply to any dietary strategy maybe carnivore would be a little tough with the fiber but by and large that can apply everywhere from vegan to paleo to Mediterranean to keto that that simple list Casey gave and and really mean that if you know it’s a half page that would be a more effective list to guide nutrition policies and frankly healthc care policies and chronic disease management policies if we could steer incentives to that list and I just want to say like like you know it’s been a transition for me I know it’s a progression for many people on you know hearing about dietary philosophies and some of these root cause Health Concepts oh that’s preventative health that’s kind of a a fluffy thing my point now what I’ve really been convinced of is is is enshrining what Casey’s saying in both BS up habits which I know many listeners are doing and hopefully this book helps them on that Journey but we can enshrine those in our public policy right we can steer the $4.6 trillion dollar we spend on Healthcare to launch people on a path of curiosity about what they’re putting in their bodies um you know my companies I mentioned trumed we’re working with a lot of supplement companies there’s research on probiotics actually helping to stimulate glp1 we work with a company called pendulum that’s done significant research on this and there’s actually you know bacteria strains that actually can help supplement your diet can actually produce these gp1s and help stimulate them naturally obviously as Casey said with food too it’s like doctors can write letters of medical necessity for that we can follow the science um and you know recommend food interventions when people have diabetes or heart disease even Alzheimer’s which is exploding right now teens are getting dementia uh just as they dropped the early onset diabetes because so many young people are getting diabetes there’s early onset Alzheimer’s they’re going to drop that it’s going down and down down doctors could be writing food prescriptions and exercise prescriptions and we could have public policy that steers more money to that and actually instills this as the standard of care we’re not anti- Pharma in this book and our our mission isn’t anti-a we’re pro- follow the science and our argument isn’t to change science it’s actually to follow As Americans are you know facing this cascading and growing you know connected set of metabol conditions that you know as rfk’s talked about when his uncle was president with 6% of Americans and now is 65% of Americans have a chronic condition um you know we’re just saying to follow the science and the science is simple when I was working for the food companies I was shocked as a as a junior employee dictating millions of dollars of research funding to professors at tson Harvard that’s what PR Executives in Washington DC are doing I thought highly of myself but you know I was an unimpressive are executive um sitting around with other relatively unimpressive people who are dictating like like foundational nutrition research um there as anahad OK Conor in the Washington Post recently reported an amazing uh reporter on the food industry there’s millions of dollars going to nutrition influencers uh to confuse the issue and actually Stoke these diet Wars and Stoke this idea oh the alra process good the carnivore is good the uh the vegans are it’s actually that’s literally this confusion is being purposely stoked um so yeah I I I think if we can really enshrine these simple Concepts both and bottoms up but also top down um we’d be in a much better place yeah yeah when you’re saying follow the science you mean the real science and that’s the clarification here and this is available you know and it’s never been as easy to access valid applicable science and at the same time it’s never been more complex and you guys are really concentrating the Simplicity and giving us Direction in all this and this is what’s so cool because there is a paradox right now we’ve got access to all this information and yet we’re sicker than ever we have all this apparent Innovation yet we’re sicker than ever something is not adding up and thankfully I have more people in this space now who are standing up and saying this doesn’t make sense and you know just even bringing up this subject it is rocketed obviously in popularity so quickly this anti-obesity anti-diabetic Frame drugs initially and you know getting approved for obesity and other purposes which a lot of folks as you know they’re not even into that particular BMI it’s just one of those things that becomes popularized and you know there can be good intention behind and there’s a place for this also and this is like you just said we’re not demonizing this but we’re looking at like you just mentioned and I talked about this in my previous book as well in each marter years before the popularity of these drugs gp1 here are some things here are some studies affirming like just eat this do this but here’s the rub when you do that it’s going to have a Cascade of other benefits when you do it naturally how your body has evolved when you come in with the blunt instrument the ramifications are things that we don’t know we simply don’t know but we do know that this is a foreign exposure and if history has served us well if we’re paying attention think are probably not going to go the way we think they’re going to go which leads us back to and this is something super important in this conversation about the mitochondria and the food that we’re eating what we’re doing when when you eat whatever the food might be you’re not just directly you know that chicken or that Kellogg cereal isn’t just boom it’s energy you’re using that’s a foreign currency that’s like me coming into Macy’s with a bunch of yen bunch of PES like trying to buy some Polo Gear or whatever and they’re just like bro we can’t take that this isn’t the energy that we run on it has to be converted and that’s what the mitochondria are doing for us it’s converting this food energy into U energy and so with that being said the the thing that you pointed out in a really remarkable way was how the absolutely abhorent amount of sugar that we’re consuming can gum this system up and in this conversation about chronic overnutrition can you unpack because as Cali shared you know we’ve got upwards of you know a third of our population now diabetic and or pre-diabetic right now and it’s just growing exponentially why is this happening to us because and I’m and I’m asking this question because that is a precursor to so many other things yes and it can start with poor management of our blood sugar so we’re eating a food our body’s trying to convert that sugar into energy it’s trying to shuttle it to our mitochondria somehow some way we’ve got cellular respiration beta oxidation all that stuff but how is an insane amount of sugar that we’re consuming gumming up that process it is such a great question Sean because I think some people might think okay if you’re giving the body more glucose wouldn’t you just be able to make more energy but I think we have to look at the mitochondria with compassion here you’ve got these mitochondria that are basically tasked to process all this raw material from food into this currency of energy that can you can use from the Yen to the dollar I love that analogy that you used and by giving the mitochondria you know 50 times more sugar in our diet than we’ve ever eaten in human history that’s basically saying you have to do 50 times more work and they can’t do it the mitochondria are machines that don’t have the capacity to convert all that energy to a usable form of energy that we can use which is ATP and so what happens is that you start gumming up the system the mitochondria become overtaxed and what are they going to do they’re going to say to the cell hey stop the glucose from coming in we cannot process this we only have a certain amount of capacity and so the body to protect itself to the the cell to protect itself actually is so smart and it adapts and it creates what’s called insulin resistance which is essentially saying the hormone insulin that allows glucose to be taken up into the cell we’re going to stop that signal from being transmitted that’s insulin resistance to essentially protect that mitochondria from having all that work so what happens well more glucose stays outside the cell and then you start seeing it rise in the bloodstream and then you get to be like over 50% of American adults who have pre-diabetes or type 2 diabetes this is when we have the blood sugar rising to an unhealthy level and the second thing that happens is we start to see things like triglycerides go up in the bloodstream because what’s the body going to do with all that glucose floating around it’s going to convert it to a storage form so it converts it to fat and then of course that gets stored in our fat cells it floats around in our bloodstream it causes problems so two of the five biomarkers of metabolic syndrome are high blood sugar high triglycerides and this is all really an Adaptive uh reaction from the cell being overwhelmed by too much glucose to process and I think a really important Point here is that it’s not just the excess glucose in the diet that is causing this problem that’s a big factor because we’re eating astronomically more sugar refined processed grains and refined processed sugar than ever before in human history but also anything that hurts that machine of the mitoch condra being from being able to flow through that glucose and convert it to ATP is going to create essentially less throughput and it’s going to it’s going to contribute to that cell needing to shut the glucose from coming in and so all these other factors that we’ve touched on like the sleep deprivation that causes mitochondrial dysfunction and the fact that we’re so sedentary and we’re so underused and so our mitochondria are dysfunctional from that and the fact that we have all these environmental toxins some of which are direct mitochondrial Inhibitors anything that hurts the mitochondria is going to contribute to that cell wanting to block the entry of glucose in because it can’t process it so it’s both the overwhelm of glucose and all the other factors that are directly hurting the mitochondria that synergistically create the situation where the cell becomes insulin resistant and so in the body essentially blocking that that glucose from coming in and blocking that in insulin signal the body in its infinite wisdom is like no no no we need to get the glucose out of the bloodstream this is bad because glucose floating around causes all these other problems like chronic inflammation and glycation sugar sticking to things in the body causing dysfunction and oxidative stress so that glucose floating around is bad too so the body’s like we’re going to drive it into the cell we don’t care if the mitochondria is hurting we’re going to drive it in so it actually increases your concentration of insulin in the blood to try and push the glucose into the cell and that in its own right causes other problems because that high insulin in the blood which is hyperinsulinemia is what really contributes to things like high blood pressure because High insulin levels are going to block your body from being able to like dilate its blood vessels properly um and then of course that high insulin is a block to Fat oxidation in the body because insulin is one of our hormones that says no fat burning and then that contributes of course to us storing and keeping the fat so at the center of so many of the problems we’re dealing with in our country like high blood pressure and excess weight and high blood sugar and high trigly triglycerides these features of metabolic syndrome the real root is at the very center of the cell it’s the mitochondria being damaged by all these environmental factors that are new and modern and are directly hurting it plus that overwhelm of substrate it’s being asked to process which overwhelm it and cause it to protect itself by causing insulin resistance so you just run through the five biomarkers of metabolic syndrome high blood sugar high triglycerides low HDL cholesterol high waist circumference and and high blood pressure and it’s very easy to see through this root cause lens how they’re all directly connected back to the mitochondria and I can tell you at Stanford Medical School I did not learn that I did not learn how these five pillars of metabolic syndrome are connected to One Core part of the cell we see them as sort of these interesting things that kind of go together but not really understanding that that root cause lens and so we need to focus you know our healing from the the branch of the tree to the real trunk which is the mitochondria all right so you’re saying that insulin resistance is a natural adaptation of the body that we’ve medicalized all right so we medicalize the natural adaptation instead of removing the Mountain Dew instead of removing the Lucky Charms instead of removing the Pepsi and the intimin I’m thinking about intiments my mom was on that intiments they’re good they’re delicious all right they’re delicious and they’re designed to be like that and consuming these newly invented food products again with our body as you just mentioned Infinite Wisdom these adaptations are feedback right there’re these little things to pay attention to and I’m so grateful that you’ve mentioned how important we are in this health equation because we’ve outsourced so much of our health to these entities that are profiting from our ignorance and our sickness and with this being said if you could talk a little bit about this issue with sugar and the sugar exposure and in particular to our kids the advertisements you mentioned a little bit earlier let’s talk about that a little bit listening to Casey talk about the science that no doctor from Harvard or Stanford could tell you about it makes me angry and we talk about this in the book and it’s one of our Central premises is that this is so damn simple I can already see as Casey’s talking I see the knif sharpening of the evidence based Bros you know taking the 50,000 nutrition studies that have been created as basically PR for the processed food industry over the past two years 50,000 peer-reviewed studies in the past two years have been created on nutrition fully just to basically argue things like as the USDA recently said in a in a study 91% of a child’s diet can be able to process food and still be healthy there’s still studies being pumped by these folks on major podcast a day saying fruit to and sugar is fine a calorie is a calorie that’s still a very accepted and propagated idea um no matter what you even think of that or what a particular study says it misses the point Ultra processed food is weaponized Ultra processed food is a science experiment Ultra processed food is not the free market at work it is a rigged system where tens of thousands of scientists as the cigarette industry declined in the 1980s went to food companies and you literally have food companies today as one of the biggest employers of scientists in the world they are doing science experiments to make this food addictive and to make it not filling and that’s what we’re giving to our kids that’s the problem with alra processed food you know you have a lot of the evidence space Bros saying well no no it’s the calories calories have gone up in the past 30 years why have calories gone up because they’ve gone because it’s gone up with ultra processed food consumption which is weaponized to make us eat more the problem we know how to regulate our calories it’s like no no it’s not the problems not Al process the problems no that it’s they one and the same we’re being poisoned and we’re being addicted and we have a mass drug addiction crisis here and we literally have the characteristics of addiction denial from parents who are addicted to these foods and giving them to their kids because they’re normalized the root of the problem is ultra-processed food in Japan the childhood obesity rate is 3% okay it’s close to 25% by last here okay it’s directly correlated with ultra-processed food Ultra processed food consumption in Japan is more than half of what it is here it’s it’s it’s it’s substantially lower in most European countries it’s it’s it’s actually uniquely problematic in America right on the road to 70% you know it’s it’s it’s growing every every year it’s so simple the foundation of public policy should be firing every nutrition researcher in the country letting go of all the corrupt USDA advisers everyone one policy get Ultra process food consumption down because it’s alter processed food consumption goes down scientists and these companies aren’t able to weaponize our food Coggs they literally were trying to take the colorings out and they did focus groups with kids and they said kids choose the the the fro loops with the brighter colors they choose that right they’re able to do that because they’ve rigged the market and they’re self- policing there’s no oversight I a Libertarian guy but it’s not the free market to let these food companies regulate themselves put toxins on our food the glyphosate which is being phased out in Europe which is still totally propagated here thousands of additives that are being banned or are banned in other countries thousands thousands which which which produce you know again you have people on podast oh the the evidence on the microbiome isn’t clear these are destroying our microbiomes and causing Untold impacts to our physical and mental health that will we will not understand for a generation it is Wrecking our society these foreign substances um so I think the industry likes to kind of Revel in oh no it’s this it’s that we don’t know what it is it’s not necessar Ultra processed food calorie if you can just attack Ultra processed food you take away these weapons the industry has to make food addictive to put these chemicals in that make it more addictive and palatable but hurt our health um you know you’re able to take that away so so that that’s the mission we’re on uh that that’s what I’m talking to various candidates about members of Congress um and the last thing I’ll just say is I think people want change people H these leaders have kids they see what’s going on they see what’s happening to their health the problem is they haven’t had the confidence to speak up because they’re buried in all this research and they’re being ured you know that they’re going to be slammed for going against the medical consensus I think after the biggest public policy disaster of our lifetime which was the covid lockdowns and I think rightful distrust of the medical system I think more leaders are are are finding that voice to step up my message is any reader of this book who internalizes the chapters that Casey’s talking about on on food and the the interrelated nature of metabolic Health I’ll say this very clearly they know more about nutrition and the root cause of disease than a graduate of of Harvard Med School uh literally I’m not joking um uh doctors in your medical community is not being trained on what actually causes uh disease and and and and you should not be bullied for speaking up to your pediatrician if you’re not a doctor and saying trust your doctor I’m a doctor I I’ve got their credentials you have done Tik Tok everywhere all the nutrition well I’m getting lectures from people that aren’t nutritionist why did I go to school for four years you should absolutely have an opinion those people are compromised and and and and we’ve got to be stepping up on this and uh and have a voice you know yeah thank you for mentioning that as well because we don’t think about where the information is coming from we just don’t you know I went to a conventional University and little did I know that my school’s nutrition and this is during I went to school the first college that I went to was 1997 all right so the food pyramid was heavy heavy in use and we don’t realize that these programs are getting funded by ultr processed food companies you know our nutrition programs are getting funding from these companies and if you think about government policy and the lobbyists from ultr processed food entities from the drug entities and I shared this you know I’ve sometimes a lot of stuff ends up getting passed around a lot but I’ll come across something that I haven’t seen anyone discuss and I’ll I’ll go in deep with it and one of the most shocking things I came across during all of the chaos of the last couple of years was this report that found that in 2020 two-thirds of all Congress members received money from the pharmaceutical industry right all right so we’re talking about the this just this is the thing and the point I’m trying to make is it’s just how business is done it’s just normalized and you are making a stand and saying this is not normal and as a matter of fact here are some other ways that we can do this and this is detailed in the book as well now I want to Circle back in this conversation about Pharma for example because you talk about something that is easily overlooked as well that just compounds the problem because we’ve never had more access to medication and yet we’re not getting better and matter of fact we’re getting worse and here’s why you talk about the impact that all of these medications that just start to pile up have on our mitochondria right and so in the conversation for example with the mitochondrial dysfunction taking place all of this glucose coming in and you also shared something that a we don’t think about very often and I don’t you know it’s one of those aha moments for me our bodies tend to make this response and I know you’re just like what is he going to say when we become insulin resistant our bodies do that response automatically which is like let me start turning out more insulin myself and try to force feed this into the cell so your body does the thing that then we eventually turn to conventional medicine metformin or insulin eventually now again insulin has its place it can be life saving in certain context but to go to that when your body is literally screaming to stop putting these things into my body this creating this dysfunction when we start piling all these medications metformin linil n SSRI these things are getting stacked up what are these drugs doing to our mitochondria I think at the highest level Sean it’s like what cie said like we’re not in any way anti Pharma like there’s absolutely a time and a place for medications but the real point that we’re trying to make is that so many of the medications that we’re dealing with today in our country these chronic disease medications where the more medications we’re prescribing it’s correlated with an increased rate of the condition in society like that’s very odd and the reason is because it’s not actually getting at the root cause it’s not doing anything to improve our mitochondrial health and in some cases it’s actually hurting mitochondrial Health some of these medications deplete our micronutrient absorption in the gut and some of these micronutrients that get blocked in their absorption are direct mitochondrial co-actors for the enzymes that make ATP there’s other medications that can have like a direct uh Toxic effect on mitochondrial activity so there’s indirect effects there’s Direct effects and then there’s just medications that don’t actually in any way improve the function so what they do is that they many of these medications will turn the knobs on biomarkers in the blood that we use to characterize disease like an LDL or a glucose level without actually healing the root cause so while we might um have a picture that looks a little bit better on our blood work the question that I invite everyone to ask is is it actually healing my cells like are my cells actually working better or have I turned the knob on some of the downstream biomarkers of that core dysfunction and that’s a difficult question but that’s a really a question that I think every doctor prescribing medication should ask is the intervention that I’m prescribing truly healing cellular function or is it turning a knob on a bio marker to make things kind of look good and so you know for someone with type 2 diabetes who is you know hyperinsulinemic and we’re giving them more insulin what that might do is lower the biomarker of glucose in the bloodstream because you have stuffed more glucose into that cell so you’ve hidden the glucose and the biomarker looks better and we all can clink our glass and say we’ve practiced good medicine but did it actually cause the mitochondria to have higher capacity to process that glucose absolutely not and so that’s the type of thinking that we need to think about like are we hiding things inside of cells or are we actually healing the thing that’s broken that’s leading the biomarker uh to be high and so fundamentally when I think about the mitochondria I’m thinking about flow I’m thinking about flow through a system I’m thinking about how do we get the food from the outside world into our body properly digested getting into the cell the substrate processed by the mitochondria into human energy that powers our chemical reactions that ultimately bubbles up into our lives that’s that flow of sort of cosmic to human energy that fundamentally is the root of metabolism and any medication well there really aren’t medications that improve that process um it’s diet and lifestyle that improves that process it’s the gentle multimodal nud nudges that heal our cell and so if you’re a doctor and the interventions that are being done are not for a condition that is metabolically related if the conditions are not improving the flow through that system they are not approaching the root cause and I would there is not a medication that I know of that truly fundamentally impacts that beautiful Divine Cosmic process it’s really just the choices that we make every day that that can do that and like I mentioned earlier like the absolute beauty of the moment we’re in right now in human history is that for the first time ever literally in the past two to three years we have the ability as individuals to understand how those metabolic processes are working for ourselves never before have we ever been able to understand for ourselves where we are on this spectrum of good energy or bad energy where we are on the spectrum of metabolic Health but just as in the last couple years we have the wearables revolution where you can literally see your own biomarkers in real time we have the biosensor revolution where we have literal sensors that we can put on our own bodies to see what our blood sugar is doing which is a metabolic readout and we have direct consumer lab testing where you can literally go online and order Labs that can tell us all about this processes that we’re talking about so we’ve got this sort of technological advancement that gives us the ability to see inside ourselves and we also have I think through the functional medicine sort of movement the ability to understand that you know how we’re actually feeling how our bodies are feeling is an incredible readout for our metabolic health and that um you know this is I think we can attribute this to to Mark Heyman or Jeffrey Bland but like symptoms are a gift and so you know if your body is expressing symptoms that is a sign that there is dysfunction in your cells symptoms cannot rise in a vacuum they necessarily result from cellular dysfunction so if you’re experiencing symptoms it’s a sign to think about how are your cell’s needs not being met or how are they being overburdened with things they don’t need so we’re in this very exciting time in history right now where we have the technological advancements to understand whether our bodies are truly healing and where we are in the metabolic spectrum and the awareness to know that some sys are a gift and that if we are not feeling incredible and symptom free and Limitless there’s probably work we can do to better meet the needs of ourselves or unburden them with things they don’t need I just going to add um I really think uh a journey for me writing this with Casey and where I’m at is we need to kill the sacred cows um we just assume that Medical Specialties are a good thing that when Casey graduates from Stanford med school choosing between 42 Medical Specialties to devote our life to that’s not even question that’s totally wrong siloing the body hearing Casey talk about drugs I think another important point is you know everyone even folks that are you know well on the health Journey you know U and kind of questioning institutions like us oh uh the gold standard is a a placebo controlled double blind study right that’s the gold standard research it’s complete BS uh let me explain how those studies work you talk about Pharma paying off lawmakers Pharma is also the number one payer for research Pharma also makes uh literally over a 100 million individual payments a year to doctors in Consulting fees basically bribes um Pharma is the 75% of funding for the actual regulatory agency the FDA uh you know bureaucracies are built to grow they’re incentivized for that and their funding comes from the growth of the pharmaceutical industry and all the leaders of the FDA are just revolving door to the pharmaceutical industry Scott godle you know the former Commissioners now on the board of fizer that’s that’s everything so they’re the billpay literally literally the largest billpay single industry of politicians of the regulatory agencies of the research of the media I’ve talked a lot about how the 60% of TV news funding comes from Pharma so the referee on what information you know uh comes to the American people so let’s just go to a specific example OIC they’re literally able to put people on the FDA panel reviewing obesity drugs uh as paid advisers to the company that’s making their P there there aren’t conflicts of interest I helped pay off the uh and helped do donations to an opioid panel about 12 years ago 90% of the opioid panel from the dean of har uh Stanford med school on down accepted money or research grants from opioid makers today anyone even in a regulatory capacity that’s approving obesity drugs is often paid for by the drug maker who who makes the Obesity drugs so what do you have they choose the game so we hear that weight went down briefly you know during a short period of time even though these are lifetime drugs being pushed on 12-year olds okay so what does that mean well the study didn’t take take into account muscle vers fat loss so it’s demonstrably and and much more than usual almost double the amount of muscle loss versus uh losing weight normally actually many people in the studies actually technically became fatter as a percentage of their overall weight because their muscle was being depleted so much that that’s they were actually able to design the study have the people of the FDA fine with that not even looking at the problem just like with stens it wasn’t that that wasn’t about heart disease those were the studies weren’t tied to heart disease they were tied to one biomarker right so they’re able to create the rules of the game um and then push from the media and the government and the whole medical industrial complex that they fund to say you know this is the science um we need to start questioning the the the apparatus of The Chronic disease system these folks are fundamentally not only not knowledgeable about the underlying connection between diseases the the idea that you know if you have a child taking OIC uh even if they’re potentially losing weight if they’re continuing to put toxic Ultra processed food in their body how that’s obviously going to result in other problems um we have a complete lack of awareness about interconnectivity there was no understanding of the microbiome during the OIC research that the drug literally is gut dysfunction it causes severe microbiome issues and is now being investigated in the EU for an increase in suicidal ideation I said that a year ago in debating a Harvard doctor on the Barry West I said that I said this is obvious 95% of our serotonin is produced in our gut I this Harvard doctor didn’t even know that that’s just because I’ve read a couple of your books and a couple of the other folk you know I’ve read a couple books I know that if you have IBS or some kind of gastrointestinal issue you’re much more likely to have some mental health problems this the hormone serotonin regulates everything it’s not a joke it’s it’s like it’s it’s everything for our contentment and I so I said that I said that a year ago I was attacked by a Harvard doctor oh no no there’s no evidence of that that doesn’t make any sense she started crushing my credentials now it’s a massive EU investigation and there’s a huge increase uh it appears in suicidal depression interestingly it is being aggressively prescribed to anyone on SSRI because SSRI is increas your weight so there’s now a huge movement in the mental health field to prescribe OIC which then makes you more depressed so you need more sris so these are the the the the game is being rigged systematically um on the farmer front almost almost willfully ignoring the root causes um that that fundamentally has to change the the entire Paradigm this is really our argument the Paradigm of Health needs to change from the siloed View where if Casey is doing surgery on somebody that had their sinuses were so inflamed that they needed to be passed out in front of her and and and she had to cut out the remnants of their sinus infection that she didn’t speak to the doctors who were working on their diabetes the cardiologists working on their heart issues the the depression the kidney issues she didn’t even speak to those doctors in the charts it was separate siloed conditions when it’s a root cause that entire Paradigm has to change it’s a fundamental Monumental shape shift that we have to make in how we view chronic disease and how we treat it you know just hearing that it reminds me that we are not in fact Legos you know we’re not just kind of separated into these different parts you put us together mechanistically we are a living Sovereign interconnected being and so obviously what’s going on with your cardiovascular health is going to be affecting your mental health was going to be help uh impacting your uh arthritic condition your gut health that list goes on and on but yours separated into these parts and outsourced to different experts who often times aren’t getting you well yeah and that’s at the heart of this and being able to hear your perspective and your experience and putting it all together in a resource for us is something truly special like this book is special and I want to make sure this is one of the first major interviews you guys are doing on this by the way and so I want everybody to rush out and pre-order this book make it a massive massive hit and to help to change this and I want to ask you for everybody listening what else can people look forward to in good energy good energy is a is a guide book for each of us to really reimagine what life can look like for ourselves our families our communities and the world and it gives you really all of the tools to understand your body in a totally different way a much much deeper way than the system has really allowed for us to um to feel so EMP powered it’s very tactical as cie said we’ve got all the biomarkers that you need to ask for and get and order to understand what’s going on inside your cells and your metabolic Health it is going through pillar by pillar every aspect of our Modern Life Food sleep movement stress toxins temperature sleep all of this and really going both a philosophical framework for how to think about these things and then also exactly how to understand where you’re at and how to prove and um and it goes deeper I think it not only talks about the systems issues that cie is so brilliant at speaking about and what we can really do to encourage our system to be better uh but also it really gets into the spiritual nature of this and how we need to tap into a real deeper sense of what our true nature is as humans not just this this sort of body that the Health Care system sees us as this sort of thing that we can put stuff in and we can profit off of but really the true infinite potential of Our Lives as this miraculous thing this conscious beautiful being in eternity that we are and to really actually reclaim a sense of like fearlessness and empowerment in understanding more about our true nature that transcends from the cell all the way to the spirit and I think you know something that we really talk about in the book in the last chap chapter which is my favorite chapter which is called fearlessness the highest level of good energy the book starts with with part one which is everything is connected and it ends with fearlessness the highest level of good energy and I think those those two things are really related because I think the world that we’re living in right now the healthc Care system really weaponizes our fear against us to get us to do almost anything they have learned that if we can be really scared of life and of death uh and of the world that we are so vulnerable and we are so sort of seeking any solution to our existential angst if we are in a state of fear and so every system uses that against us and there you I think that a big Journey for each of us individually and it’s going to be different Journey for each person is to find ways to create a deep deep existential sense of safety in our minds because ourselves hear every thought that we have and if we can go on the Journey of healing of reframing of changing our mindset to feel a sense of safety in our own bodies which only we can create for ourselves it sets up a physiology and a biology in our body that is going to help us make so many better choices so so really the spiritual and the empowerment side is a big part of this too so that’s what people are going to get from the book and I I think I just want to Circle back to something you said about connection the call to action in this book is to move towards a world of connection and it’s not just connection on the level of that diseases are connected it’s it’s really four layers of connection that we think Can Heal the World and help the future of humanity and the planet first is what we’ve talked about seeing the connection between all of the diseases and symptoms we’re facing in the Western World seeing them connected by the root cause physiology of metabolic dysfunction the second piece of connection is understanding the connection between the human body and everything else on planet Earth in the cosmos from the air to the sunlight to water to the food we’re eating to the microbes in the soil and realizing that we’re actually all just a big cycle that’s totally connected I love this Dows statement that the human body is a process not an entity we think we’re this thing but really we’re this Dynamic process constantly you know exchanging matter and energy with the environment through our eating you know absorbing this the sunlight and it changing our biology we’re totally connected so really seeing that connection between us and everything else in the world I think the third piece of connection is realizing that loving trusting Connections in person with other people is not a nice to have it’s fundamental for our core biology we need to be connected in person in loving relationships not so socially isolated for our biology to work properly our mitochondria literally need human connection to function properly if they don’t they will literally initiate the cell danger response which um starts to screw up our biology and the fourth piece of connection that we really call for is a real deep existential curiosity and inquiry about the connection between our life and death in an endless cycle through eternity you know we we are so petrified of death in the western world World um even though it’s really the only thing we can be certain of and we’re so afraid of it that it drives so many of our decisions in this lifetime to be about anything that can cause us to potentially avoid death so we take the pills and we get the surgeries because we’re just existentially petrified and I think really meditating on the true nature of our lives and our bodies as part of an endless Eternal cycle um literally in an infinite universe and and and meditate it the on it the way that indigenous cultures have and and Eastern cultures and so many other cultures except the West the stoics everyone’s thought about this and we just don’t talk about it and of course death’s scary of course you want to extend life but we are part of an eternal endless cycle of connection and we can really absorb that on the deepest level I think we can unlock our highest levels of biology that’s rooted in abundance and that’s rooted in an existential sense of calm so Callie and I are really trying to bring in a vision of connection for the world that has been um so systematically taken away from us in very recent history and we think that that Vision can really unlock thriving for both humans but also for planetary Health it said energy cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed and that original energy is coursing through our veins it’s very powerful and thank you for sharing that that last part because it’s something that we don’t think about you know we’re so in fear of it but are we’re an expression of something so much greater you know and it’s it’s incredibly powerful so that’s another expression of good energy is remembering that and I really appreciate you guys for sharing the story of your mom you know to start this book off and you know just thinking about what she would say to her two kids coming together and creating this project that’s going to impact the lives of so many people what do you think your mom would say about this we really feel like she lives with us Casey made this beautiful point that you know death we we had the fear of death you know our biggest fear was our mom dying and this was abrupt 13 days and my mom in her final days read hundreds of notes from people she impacted and then in her final day of cons or final moment of Consciousness you know we went to the beach we carried her and overlooking the ocean um where she was going to be buried and um she hugged my dad and just said life was so beautiful thank you and um Casey made the point that she’s actually has changed everyone she met all those letters she she literally lives within us because she changed our um our our biological structure and we haven’t been upset about her death we we vowed in the week after she died um to devote Our Lives to this cause of changing Health incentives I have a young son and I really think it’s existential and we have talked and and been on this Mission are going to be in this mission for the rest of our lives and really feel like our mom lives within us so I I hope she’d be proud of that and I I just want to say kind of tying back on on our mom the in addition to saying it was unlucky it was such a movement of the medical system to fight once you get cancer and um and Casey uh after they said that she needed aggressive interventions after the stage 4 pancreatic cancer you know 99.9% of people okay and she would have died alone in the covid ward and Casey said no we’re goingon to go home um and all the interventions would have even work the 12 days it would have even gotten the results back and those 12 days were the most important Days of Our Lives and I just it’s just a principle I want to say you’re going to fight once you or your loved one it’s the diagnosis the medical system is great where the hell was the medical system in the 40 years of her signs of metabolic dysfunction that’s the big scandal in the country right now if one time during her you know that Prescription Pad the next comorbidity if one time the doctor said you’re going to die early if you don’t intercede on the underlying root cause write that letter of medical inity quite frankly for exercise or food interventions or supplement interventions actually talk about what’s talked about in this book which is the underlying root cause she would still be here this is happening to the majority of Americans when that prescription pad comes out and not the frankly the letter of medical necessity and the discussion of detailed dietary intervention Americans want this Americans want my mom wanted to meet her grandchild doctors want or excuse me fathers want to walk their daughters down the aisle but they’re they’re missing that more and more we’re we’re we’re suffering and dying at at an increase rate so that’s that’s how I tie it together we don’t have any anger or sadness our mom lives within us this book’s not about longevity you know we need to savor the moment right now and um and and this moment you know us interacting with with other people is the most important moment because that can live on um now our mom taught us that but but but we are being robbed of not being on this journey of curiosity and understanding our metabolic Health it’s causing Untold damage and that’s what we’re trying to bring forward amazing thank you so much for sharing and um I appreciate you both so much good energy I have an early copy be one of the first people to get it pre-order the book right now make this a huge huge hit it already is going to be but participate in this good energy where’s the best place to pick it up wherever books are sold it’s everywhere yeah Amazon Barnes & Noble your independent book seller and you’ve got all that linked up at what’s the website Casey means.com goodenergy we’ll show you all the links where you can buy it and exactly what you’ll get in the book and all the information you need perfect and you can pre-order on any of those sites and she’s got it all there for you good energy it’s not just a book it’s a movement Kylie means Dr Casey means I appreciate you both we love you Sean thank you hey if you like this video make sure to check out this video right here how the hell is a keto diet helping some of my patients with schizophrenia or bipolar like how the hell is that happening

Truly Right View: Advocating for Free Speech in the Age of Political Censorship

Introduction: What is Free Speech Today?

In a world where political discourse is dominated by big tech, cable news, and social media influencers, free speech is constantly under threat. From censorship of conservative viewpoints to the silencing of dissent on controversial issues, we are witnessing an alarming trend of restrictions on the most fundamental rights of any citizen in our Constitutional Republic: the right to speak freely.

But what does free speech truly mean in today’s context? Are we protecting it, or are we allowing authoritarian ideologies like socialism, communism, fascism, and dictatorships to erode it?

The Constitutional Perspective: Why Free Speech is Non-Negotiable

The First Amendment of the United States Constitution is crystal clear: “Congress shall make no law… abridging the freedom of speech.” The Founding Fathers understood the importance of free speech in preserving a free society. Without it, the ability to challenge government, expose corruption, and advocate for truth would be crushed.

Yet today, under the guise of protecting people from “misinformation” and “hate speech,” powerful institutions are curbing our ability to express ideas that do not conform to their narratives.

Do we not see this as a slippery slope toward authoritarianism?

Shouldn’t we, as citizens, be the ones who decide what we can or cannot hear, not a centralized body or corporation?

Social Media and Cable News: Platforms or Gatekeepers?

Social media was once hailed as the bastion of free speech. It allowed ordinary individuals to share their thoughts, advocate for causes, and hold the powerful accountable. However, over the years, major platforms like Twitter (now X), Facebook, and YouTube have become gatekeepers rather than facilitators of free expression.

Algorithms favor certain ideologies, while alternative viewpoints—especially those with a more conservative or constitutional slant—are shadow-banned, demonetized, or outright censored.

Does this not resemble the tactics of monarchies, communistic or fascist regimes that control what their citizens can see and hear?

Shouldn’t a true democracy allow the free flow of ideas, even if those ideas challenge the status quo?

Social Media Influencers: Fighters for Freedom or Puppets of Censorship?

Many social media influencers, especially those aligned with constitutional values, have become modern-day warriors for free speech. Yet, they face intense backlash, censorship, and de-platforming for voicing opinions that challenge globalist or left-leaning narratives.

How many times have we seen influential voices banned simply for questioning government policies, election results, or health mandates?

Isn’t it concerning that only a select group of elites can decide what is “acceptable” discourse?

While some influencers fall in line with these restrictive policies, others have emerged as champions for free speech, using their platforms to resist censorship and uphold constitutional rights. The question is: Will we support these voices, or will we allow them to be drowned out by corporate and governmental censorship?

The Dangers of Socialism, Communism, and Fascism: A Threat to Free Speech

At the heart of socialism, communism, and fascism lies a common tactic—control over speech. These ideologies have historically sought to suppress dissent, limit expression, and create a monolithic narrative that favors those in power.

Look no further than authoritarian regimes past and present, where dissenters are imprisoned, media is state-controlled, and free speech is criminalized. Can we really ignore the striking similarities between these oppressive ideologies and the current state of political discourse in America?

Is the suppression of speech today not a precursor to more draconian measures tomorrow?

Should we not fight to preserve the right to freely express political, social, and economic ideas?

The Truly Right View: Defending Freedom in the Digital Age

At Truly Right View, we believe in the unwavering defense of free speech as enshrined in the U.S. Constitution. We reject the encroaching influences of socialism, communism, fascism, and any form of dictatorship that seeks to undermine this fundamental right.

Our platform is dedicated to bringing you uncensored news, analysis, and commentary from a truly constitutional perspective. We provide a space where voices that have been silenced or marginalized can be heard, and where you—the citizen—can engage in the free exchange of ideas.

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If so, we invite you to join the fight for free speech by subscribing to the Truly Right View channel and newsletter. Stay informed on the latest developments in free speech advocacy, political commentary, and constitutional rights. Together, we can stand against the creeping influence of censorship and authoritarianism.

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Will You Speak Up or Stay Silent?

In the end, the future of free speech rests in our hands. We can either stand idly by as it is eroded by corporate and governmental overreach, or we can take action to protect and preserve it.

Will you speak up for your rights, or will you allow them to be taken away piece by piece?

The choice is yours.

Subscribe to the channel for Truly Right View today, and support our patriots shop together, let’s ensure that free speech remains the bedrock of our Constitutional Republic.