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nicole Shanahan the former running mate of RFK Jr recently caused major controversy on X when she went viral for this post about chemtrails watch i was taking the weekend off the internet i’ve been surfing this morning and was watching the planes flying overhead and then I just I couldn’t I couldn’t take it anymore but that is not a contrail that looked like it started as a contrail maybe and now it’s turning into a cloud see how thick that is you can see this one it’s a little further behind this one’s a little bit further behind as well this one is the one that’s been up there longest the has to end this is ridiculous it’s like an otherwise perfect day well I had a chance to sit down with her recently to ask her about what the government can do about chemtrails what we know about it versus what the media tries to pretend we don’t know and other MA priorities such as fluoride uh chemicals in our food and also why is HHS focused on anti-semitism uh it was a great conversation i really enjoyed it and I hope you do too watch nicole Shanahan it’s a pleasure to meet you thank you so much for offering your time i want to start by asking you about chemtrails because you lit the internet on fire when you started to talk about this and many mainstream media outlets are just declaring out of pocket that’s a conspiracy theory nothing to see here well we’ve seen that before with oh I don’t know the JFK investigation uh COVID vaccines things like that so what do you think let’s talk about the media later but let’s start with what do you think Health and Human Services can actually do about this what are the answers that we’re seeking yeah thanks for the question it it appears that the Overton window has been blown wide open on the issue of geoengineering um atmospheric uh weather modification um and you know the the term chemtrails comes fairly loaded because there’s an assumption uh when you use the term chemtrails that there’s something harmful happening as a result and and and that’s why it’s become the colloquial um go-to term and in fact those have who have been watching this and have dedicated their lives to tracking geoengineering they are comfortable using the term chemtrail now because they have identified um particles uh materials inputs that are being used for geoengineering and weather modification through aerosol injection that actually are harmful to human health uh and our ecosystem um health as well so natural systems such as soil water and air are being impacted uh negatively and I do know that um HHS is in the process of putting together a team to investigate this much is unknown some is known um we do know that cloud seating does exist we do know that counties throughout the United States have active contracts with private companies um to cloud seed and thus bring greater moisture um to aid lands and uh and this is all done under the umbrella of climate change mitigation and so what we don’t know and what HHS wants to figure out is the full spectrum of these activities and whether there is a fundamental missing regulatory body looking into um harmful impacts of these practices what strikes me as I was just reading my local city council newsletter and they’re trying to get feedback on a new overpass and so they have to get public consent for a park and an overpass why no public consent for modifying the weather even if they have benevolent intentions yeah so um there’s there’s a few layers to this so there’s the state um regulatory layer and then there’s the federal and then there’s this whole category of federal airspace um projects that are protected as confidential and and I think that’s where we need to be spending efforts at the at the executive level is really investigating what the federal government is doing without these disclosures um at the state level so you know there’s this misconception that if you ban geoengineering at the state level you protect all the skies above that state from these practices that’s false even if you ban geoengineering at the state level such as what Tennessee has done the federal government can still operate these projects overhead um there is no referendum process or even required disclosure process and that is wrong um that is not okay and and while this hasn’t been fully um or thoroughly examined legally there’s there’s no lawsuits yet um but there should be so states that have banned these practices have every right um to sue the federal government for these practices we just haven’t had a state level attorney general yet bring one of these cases forward and um if you are an AG of one of these states I highly recommend um that we push for one of these lawsuits because I don’t know how else we’re going to get these disclosures oh that’s fascinating what a fascinating idea now the media line again is geoengineering is real but chemtrails are not that defies logic they say out of pocket we know that there’s no harmful effects when we knew from Operation Popeye in Vietnam that it was lead iodide how do we know we we lack the information so what is your take on the utter lack of curiosity of the corporate media and their out of turn announcement that this is fine nothing to see here i think it reminds all of us of the statement around the mRNA vaccines being safe and effective um don’t look under the hood don’t listen to these conspiratorial voices and in fact there is quite a bit of active um censorship or or media manipulation um that really deters individuals from furthering their inquiries um and curiosity as to what’s actually at play and you know I think that that playbook of really using these derogatory attacks on on qualified inquiries um to shut them up i mean that reminds us all of what it felt like during those COVID lockdowns um and so there’s a lot of parallels to be drawn between the CO 19 era and what’s happening today which is this Overton window being blown wide open on the issue of geoengineering people coming forward with evidence that is raising um concern real red flags about the contents of what is being used for weather modification the lack of regulatory oversight the lack of disclosure to the public the lack of public consent um and and here we are here we are at what I think is the beginning of this global conversation around geoengineering um and factf finding and um going up against we don’t really know what right now is this you know I I do know the Gates Foundation is involved in geoengineering I do know open philanthropy is involved in geoengineering I know that the world economic forum has pushed it and and several universities are pushing for it um and and sure that’s fine but we also deserve as the people a full disclosure process and referendum opportunity to opine right and so they call us all crazy for coming up with theories because we get no real data i’m sure have you seen the old clip of Prince even talking about how kids fight more when they play outside uh because of chemtrails like years ago right um and so these are valid questions now Noah the National um or Oceanic Association is saying "Well we just don’t have that technology." And you know if you’re really taking it so far as redirecting hurricanes and things like that then you really have just gone too crazy my problem with that is I have seen Noah capable of some really unacceptable politics in the last several years for instance refusing to acknowledge that wind farms kill whales um you know their sort of take on the oceanic warming when they know that natural cycles warm the ocean so I get nervous when I see a government agency ringing in about this even though we have a new administration so can we trust Noah or do you think we’re better off under HHS because you have this personal faith in uh RFK Jr so interestingly there is a disclosure requirement if a geoengineering company um is going to be modifying the weather they’re actually required by law to notify Noah of that so that Noah can update its weather forecasts so the fact that they’re saying um such you know contradictory things like well you know don’t you know there’s there’s things that can be done but there’s but you guys are adding too much hyperbole to this too much sensationalism like do don’t you know waste your time discussing the sensationalism um of weather modification you know go on with your day there’s nothing to be concerned with here right well they don’t actually have enough knowledge to understand the totality of what these projects do to our ecosystem and atmospheric um processes um and you know for them to just brush this off as no big deal when in fact we know that you know the laws of thermodynamics and the unpredictability um of our atmosphere can lead to serious consequences and there have been scientists that have been blowing the whistle on this um raising concerns about the fact that when you meddle with um atmospheric systems there are unintended consequences um that we don’t fully understand how to model yet and predict um and given the fact that not all of these are disclosed and looked at under you know one system model is problematic as well so I think you know in total Noah um really ought to um be empowering dissenting voices and again this is what happened during CO 19 we censored um dissenting voices that were qualified including the voice of Jay Bonacharia who um is now a head of NIH an epidemiologist from uh Stanford University who was silenced because he he looked at the data and said you know lockdowns um are not being handled properly there’s a better way to do this and and he was you know silenced and so there’s many people today in the context of g geoengineering and weather modification that are also being silenced these are very important voices and Noah ought to be listening to them um I do know that HHS will be listening to them okay but that’s one government agency so we could possibly have dueling government agencies with dueling agendas which you know it it it’s bad for all of us when we have no consent inside an administration um one thing I wanted to ask you if we pivot away a little bit from chemtrails is the wish list of maja moms because I think the both of us are in that group definitively and one of the things that RFK Jr had promised that on day one of the Trump administration that fluoride would be ordered to rem be removed and we have not seen much inklings uh many conversations about that yet since Secretary Kennedy has taken office what do you think in terms where do you think that lies this is just I’m asking because it gives me a lot of anxiety it’s one of my top wish lists um and so maybe I’m asking for a selfish reasons but among the things that we obviously want is vaccine safety uh preservatives and chemicals that are harmful removed from the food chain and fluoride do you think that these are just in a wish list that we’ll get to what What’s your take on that it’s it is I am learning um I I’m not within the administration but I am very close to it and you know I view my role as reporting on it and trying to um you know understand really what the hurdles are where the hurdles lie i mean for instance the CDC is refusing to give access to HHS to very important databases um and those databases do contain information about you know for instance what are in um some of these lot numbers that were injected into American citizens because we know that there was inconsistency um in the vaccine manufacturing process of the mRNA vaccines and you know we would like to know um which lot numbers were compromised so this is something that um I feel like the public deserves access to this is really important information um for individuals to be able to investigate what is going on with their own health um and there’s roadblocks and so there’s these various layers of bureaucracy that prevent these very common sense um uh agenda items um to get through and you know fluoride a very important study just came out that showed conclusively that um a certain amount of exposure to fluoride in the water causes neurode developmental issues decreased IQ um and it’s it’s a con it’s a very good study it’s a solid study but why can’t that study affect immediate change also why can’t the studies on the um problems with the mRNA vaccine um affect enough change for the FDA to withdraw its approval well there’s a lot of legacy roadblocks in the federal government right now within these agencies um and it is going to take a massive effort to unlock those roadblocks there’s individuals within these agencies that are actively trying to undermine these efforts um and it’s you know this is this is who are they can I curse them what do I need to do like what is what do us moms need to do right because this is again something that’s very important to us is removing any kind of toxins from the lives of our babies like what what needs to happen and I guess you know when the Trump administration took office there were a lot of us like "All right we’re doing this now." These were the promises and I’m an adult i realize that when you get a new job it’s not the way you dreamed it would be and that there are roadblocks in place uh but I really appreciate your take on what those roadblocks are and do you think that there is um maybe can you give me an I I I don’t want to get you in trouble but I want to ask this in in a nice way what are the conflicting interests that would keep those things from happening who are they besides the Gates Foundation and things things like that well fluoride’s an interesting one because you have like the American Dental Association claiming that fluoride prevents cavities and they present data that I think I’m going to misquote this stat but some p the fluoride in the water is presenting over 20% of cavities from occurring um and and you know tooth decay is a real problem it costs the government or it costs the country billions of dollars um and it’s saving families money but when you line it up to the you know cost um or or you know the the costbenefit analysis of lower IQ’s and potential neurological damage um it just it doesn’t make sense so there’s this common sense issue um within our nation generally speaking where there are groups that want to keep the fluoride in the water um and actively trying um to to you know fight the Maha agenda um you know calling them remember fluoride 20 years ago was being called out as an issue of the water and those individuals were framed as conspiracy theorists if you remember the movie with Mel Gibson um conspiracy uh theor I think it was actually called conspiracy theorist you know fluoride is a theme in this film and um and so this has been a multi-deade uh battle and and here we are now on the front lines um close to getting it done and we still hear these same um you embedded interests and and it doesn’t really expense i mean to anybody besides you know truly does the dental industry are they all fighting for this i mean certainly my dentist isn’t fighting to keep fluoride in the water um no there’s other ways to get it so it it actually it just doesn’t make sense where this policy and where this like battle is is coming from to keep it in the water right and how much of it is just ego because the government fought against this science for so long um a great book on this is the fluoride deception by Christopher Bryson and they talk about how many scientists knew this since and and the connection of the Manhattan Project is fascinating uh how many lives were ruined just for bringing this inconvenient data into the American Dental Association so um yeah that’s just one of many uh and then what is your sense about the food industry is there a fight back for uh the chemicals and the dyes that we know are harmful for our children is uh does Secretary Kennedy and HHS do you think and I know I’m not asking you to speak as an insider i just want to make that clear um do you think that they are also an uphill battle in in that yeah I mean I look I I think that glyphosate is our biggest enemy as it as it when it comes to food um glyphosate much like fluoride um is proven to cause and tons of evidence you know billions of dollars Bayer and Monsanto have had to pay out in glyphosate damages because it is connected to a very specific form of cancer um but yet you know the the battle that’s being fought right now is state by state um Bayer is trying to get through a bill that states that if the EPA says glyphosate is safe then we shouldn’t have to pay damages out um and so they’re looking for that same 1986 vaccine immunity but for glyphosate and so to me glyphosate has to be a number one priority of this administration and there’s been a lot of attention put on um preservatives in food and red dye but here’s the thing we can choose as maja moms to not feed our children those foods but glyphosate enters our water systems glyphosate sprayed on one field can go onto the crops of another field that are organic i mean glyphosate comes into our food systems in ways that are very very hard to prevent even if you’re actively trying to avoid glyphosate poisoning um it impacts our farmers as well um and it’s just it’s it’s a really um ghastly injury and and you know red dye 40 and and you know sodas and things i I I think those are in my opinion um secondary priorities but they’re almost easier to go after because we understand the mechanisms by which to do so such as with SNAP uh regulating the use of SNAP for purchasing of soda i mean there’s something very reasonable about that and easy to do and enact but glyphosate management is actually a much harder battle because you have so many um entrenched uh systems in place so it you know banning it is very very challenging and the EPA is somehow still protecting its youth that’s wild well I really appreciate your explanation of the brick walls in front of HHS and the priorities of mahamoms because I don’t want to be impatient obviously I want to continue to have faith in the things that um garnered my vote as a maham but you can you can see it gets frustrating right to watch the politics play out so it’s wonderful to have someone like you who can continue to speak about what’s what’s harming us and our families look I am frustrated too i wish that you know the majority of Trump’s executive orders have been around the Maja agenda um there are powers that he has under executive authority to move these um issues through faster and and he and I think that it the onus is really on Bobby HHS and our movement to push Trump towards those decisions so what do we do do you think you know keep speaking up he listens um he hears us you know every opportunity there is to catch the ear of him and Susie Wilds do so you know tweet at Susie Wilds tweet at um cabinet members you know tweet at uh Brooke Rollins at the USDA um they they they see and hear all these things like tweet at Steven Miller he has a huge amount of authority in the administration um and and so don’t you know don’t give up we’re close we just got a new head of the FDA today we just got a new head of NIH today and all of these cabinet positions are critical um to getting things done because it’s not just you know Bobby Lone can’t do it it has to be the other members of the cabinet as well um and then it it you know getting through to their entire agencies i mean this these are agencies full of individuals and they are looking at and reading what we are putting out there um on social media so you know this is this is something we cannot lose faith we have to keep pushing a lot can get done in the next four years now one more question i’d be remiss if I didn’t ask because of this long wish list and maybe impatience that moms tend to have when I see HHS focused on for instance Colombian anti-semitism and protests uh the the list of things that Secretary Kennedy put out last week included uh that he wanted to investigate why Jewish enrollment is down at universities and review Middle Eastern studies inside these universities and I’m thinking what are you doing like what’s that what’s that about and so that kind of contributes i think that that makes me further impatient because I had these list of things that I know are true such as fluoride and glyphosate and things like that and then I see this focus and I know that I’m not alone in this kind of questioning of what what is this and I know that you don’t speak for him and I know you’re not speaking for HHS but um what is your response to to that to to this what is your response to my response I suppose yeah it’s um my initial response to that tweet was very similar to yours and others it was like what what is this about um and you know is this a function of health and human services i I could see the argument under human services um to attempt to combat radicalization and racism and disturbances on our campus which is very real like the universities have been infiltrated by anti-western ideology anti-American ideology um oftentimes it it does get tied into anti-semitism which you know is has been for reasons that you know require a great deal of analysis but um and is not the topic of our interview today that there is something there to be said it is a big issue we ha we are stuck especially as Christians between um various other ideologies that are really vying for America’s attention um and America’s prioritization and I think many of us just want to be done with that battle and just focus on America and American values and our families and we want to just be like "Okay can you guys just stop arguing over there in the Middle East and can we just focus on our own country right now?" Um and I am in that camp i am very much in that um let’s put America first and American families first and can we just please you know move past this and keep all of those other outside ideologies outside of our universities and outside of our priorities of our government agencies um and I want to get there and I want to chart how to get there um I have some ideas it it but again I’m not within the administration i am out here as a maha mom um but it’s happening and we can avoid it it is permeated every aspect of our lives here in America the fact that there is this battle being waged um more broadly and these are very big old biblical ideologies that are being waged right now on our soil yeah okay so I think my takeaway from that is we keep the fight let’s keep our focus on where we have our priorities um and you know we can make a difference in our in our maja goals and uh yeah if we collectively are like what’s that about we wanted this then maybe we get our focus on this so uh thank you very much for responding to that question you can follow Nicole Shanahan on X and she has plenty to say she has uh her own platform a large platform where she again highlights these priorities that are important to all of us so thank you again for your time i really appreciate meeting you and I hope we get to speak again likewise it was a real pleasure to be on Redacted thanks for having me
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